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the_gabster
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posted December 03, 2008 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for the_gabster     Edit/Delete Message
I'm only 20, but the thought of not having a child has been on my mind quite heavily, I don't know if Pluto transting my fifth house is causing this, maybe...? Anyway, I was wondering if a person who has natal Saturn and Uranus in fifth house opposed to Venus, Mercury, Chiron, and Moon in eleventh house would not be able to have children. The fifth house begins with Sagittarius and the eleventh house begins with Gemini. Are there any aspects that may cause a person to not have children? Or can the aspects play out in other ways and not necessarily the inability to concieve?

I don't think I can post my chart because the HTML is off, but my birthday is 5/18/1988 at 11:41 am Houston, TX (USA)

Edit: Also if anyone has their own dealings with Saturn or Uranus in the fifth house or Pluto transiting the fifth house, I would definitely like to hear about it.


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buena36
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posted December 03, 2008 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,

You can post your Chart, doesn't matter is ther HTML or not. You can write here also place and country of your birth. In that case I will try to post your Natal Chart.

Buena

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blue moon
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posted December 03, 2008 03:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I have dealings with someone with Saturn in the 5th house. He gave me two beautiful sons. No more by choice.

So don't worry about it.

This placement could mean other things, in his case, he made a career out of his hobby. This is the creative house, so if you are artistic in anyway, the form presented by Saturn could be helpful.

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buena36
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posted December 03, 2008 03:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for buena36     Edit/Delete Message
Hi BM,

I was just wondering about Saturn: there are more complaints about Venus (with hard aspects) than with Saturn. Saturn is only important, if is in the 7th. Venus is important everywhere.

I am glad for you, to have happy life.

My friend has Saturn in 5th (in Aquarius) in trine with ruler of 5th, Uranus: she has very nice two daughters.

Buena

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Glaucus
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posted December 03, 2008 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
my mother has a strong 5th house

Moon in Scorpio in 5th square Pluto in Leo in 3rd

Saturn in Scorpio in 5th trine Jupiter in Cancer in 1st,sextile Mars in Capricorn in 7th

Neptune in Libra in 5th trine Sun in Gemini in 12th,sextile Pluto in Leo in 3rd,square Venus-Uranus in Cancer in 2nd. Venus is the ruler of her 5th house.


She gave birth to 2 sons. Her firstborn was born when she was 15 years old,and she was forced to give him up for adoption.

Her secondborn son (me) was born when she was 17 years old while in an interracial relationship(she's white,my dad was black). I had special education needs with my Dyslexia,Dyspraxia. There was needed special attention,care with me. There was a bit of frustration because of that. My Sun,Mercury,and Venus are in Scorpio and they are in her 5th house. Therefore, transiting Sun,Mercury,and Venus were in her 5th house when I was born.

When she was 23 years old, she got a hysterectomy because of cervical cancer. After that,she could no longer have children.


That's how the 5th house planets,placements,aspects played out in her life.


she definitely had children with Saturn in 5th.

Saturn doesn't mean not having any children. It tends to mean responsibilities involving children. There could be strictness with children. This was all true for my mom.

Saturn in 5th can also mean older romantic partners too with 5th house also being romance. This is true for my mom...especially with her Saturn sextile Mars in Capricorn in 7th. My father,a Capricorn was 13 years older than her. My stepfather was 25 years older than her.

so many ways for 5th house planets to play out. It can be about children,romance,entertainment,creativity,self expression

Raymond

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MyVirgoMask
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posted December 03, 2008 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
What's the deal with Saturn in the 7th? Most men I know with this marry early, get divorced, and then crush on older women (present company included).
My mother has Saturn in the 7th (the planet, not her cusp)...she's been married 3x. Two of them were older, my stepfather 6 years younger.

It's interesting.
Hasn't effected her having kids, though with my father she wanted more kids besides me, and he didn't and they divorced, with this being a key reason. She had 3 more after marrying my stepfather though

I agree with Glaucus about Saturn in the 5th - it doesn't have to mean a lack of children so much as how they get treated and dealt with. I would think Saturn in the 5th just makes children a big deal; it would be a focal point, no?
I know a couple with this and they have 2 kids, and it's consumed their life to be parents...they were really, really careful about having kids, didn't talk about it for a while, and then BOOM!- had kids. Changed their life.
But they're extremely happy.

In addition, I never think of Pluto in the fifth in this sterile way...I actually feel Pluto in the 5th is fertile. Never mind astro stuff leading to so-called sterility. It's never proven 100%, and you've got a lot of free will here.
I'll shut up now.

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blue moon
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posted December 03, 2008 05:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
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What's the deal with Saturn in the 7th? Most men I know with this marry early, get divorced, and then crush on older women (present company included

Oh VirgoMask, you have unmasked me. I have this one too.

I was settled down young, not divorced though (yet? LOL). My husband is older than me, and was married before.

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blue moon
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posted December 03, 2008 05:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
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I am glad for you, to have happy life.

Thank you, Buena. It hasn't all been good, but I wanted to put the-gabster's mind at rest. Just having this placement doesn't mean she won't be able to have children.

Just like having Saturn in 7th doesn't mean you won't ever get married. It might mean like VirgoMask says, you have a liking for the older man. Very true for me.

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Peri
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posted December 03, 2008 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
Ive got Saturn in the 7th, I am not attracted to older men.

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Glaucus
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posted December 03, 2008 01:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
My exgf has Saturn in 7th,and she's been attracted to older men including me. She also has Mars oppose/contraparallel Saturn too, and so her animus planet aspect Saturn just like mom's animus planet aspects Saturn.

my exgf's mother has Pluto in 7th house,and well she has 2 children.


Raymond

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amowls
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posted December 03, 2008 01:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls     Edit/Delete Message
I'm the same age as the OP, but my Saturn Uranus conjunction is in my 7th. The thought of getting with an older man skeeves me out. The oldest guy I'll go for is 26.

I think when I'm old I'll be a cougar hahaha.

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