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bumblebee
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posted December 04, 2008 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message
My Sun in Pisces is in the 8 house in my natal chart. I've read in astro.com that this points to a deep personal transformation due to a loss of a close person.

That freaks me out a little bit. What do you think?

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posted December 04, 2008 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hippichick     Edit/Delete Message
All 8th house sunner's I have ever known have lost their dad, or father figure in some form or fashion. Could be emotionally, physically, spiritually, does not matter, but deep transformation does come from loss, especially loss of a father figure.

Now all people who have enxperienced a loss of father or father figure do not all have 8th house suns, but from my experience all 8th house sunners have has issues of loss with "dad."

And many were not physical, there was a dad in presence, but two that come to mind now, had dads that went to war and came home emotionally void. Another's dad was an alcoholic and, again, not there emotionally for the family. Still another's dad, another alcohoilc, killed himself, lending to not being there, ever emotionally, and in the end not being there physically.

Anything to do with the 8th is deep and the sun there can be really deep.

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posted December 04, 2008 10:11 AM           Edit/Delete Message
My Dad's sister has a 8th house in LEO and her and my dad have lost their father. He's passed away quite awhile ago, but he was in WWII and when he got out of the service he was mentally lost. He suffered schizophrenia and then died of emphysema

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posted December 04, 2008 10:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GemGemGem     Edit/Delete Message
I completely agree with Hippichick. 8th House Sun does not necessarily have to mean loss of a father through death. Of course there is always a possibility for that, (anything is possible) but it could just be an absent father figure.

My daughter has Libra sun in her 8th house, and her father left us shortly after her 1st birthday. He rarely visits, and is definitely not anything near what a healthy father figure should be.

I know how much fear and anxiety these 8th house "death" explanations can be that are in books and on the web. I was (still am) freaked out by a lot of them, since my daughter has a majority of planets in her 8th house. Also, the transits with Pluto tend to freak me out too. But I have found a lot of comfort in the information I've received here in LL. I still have my freak out moments of course, but I try to give myself some peace of mind, and not worry myself over something that is beyond my control.


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posted December 04, 2008 10:32 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Not true with me. I have sun in scorpio which is my 8th house. My dad has always been there for me and we are very close. I know eventually we do suffer the loss of parents, but it is not that I have lost him at a very young age or that he has been absent emotionally.
Scorpio is the house of deep emotions so sun in this 8th house probably indicates deep emotions between a child and father.

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posted December 04, 2008 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bumblebee     Edit/Delete Message
oh for me it's true.
my parents divorced when I was 6 years old, my father moved to another city and through the years we lost contact, especially after his second mariage.

That really made a big significance in ly life and I still strugle with insecurities of any kind

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posted December 04, 2008 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 04, 2008 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lechien     Edit/Delete Message
my good friend has his sun in the 8th house.

his life has turned into nothing but miserable and he suffers from the emotional loss of his old love. she's alive and fine, i think they both love each other still, but something just between them happened and they can't consider getting back together. it's like fate or destiny or whatever, he tries to get over it but after years even gave up to try. i think he'll stay this way for the rest of his life. so... i think for him the sun in the 8th house thing seems to fit in this way?

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posted December 04, 2008 11:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Astra     Edit/Delete Message
quote:

Now all people who have enxperienced a loss of father or father figure do not all have 8th house suns, but from my experience all 8th house sunners have has issues of loss with "dad."

This is so true! One of my friends has this placement and his father abandoned him at the airport.

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posted December 04, 2008 11:51 AM           Edit/Delete Message
me to. sun in 8th house. lost my dad when young and know fora fact that happyness is very elusive and will remain that way for me. nuff said about the future though.

it seems that there's a need to transform myself. like if everything was built around my ego and to just be able to live and breathe, i need to transform myself. to go deep and eventually come back up.

but the good side is that i learned occult sciences very very quickly and this helped me to carry on. seems that the universe is not after me, may be i really need this change for my own good.

nothing to worry about then, cause if i didn't needed to accept change then i wouldn't have the sun in 8th house. and there much to be gained from loss.

if what you need to loose is something that prevent you from enjoying life for example, then what's the problem?

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posted December 04, 2008 12:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message
My father has never been emotionally available to me, and now he's started a new family. I've also read that having a 8th house Sun may cause someone to lose they're spouse, but I take it with a grain of salt. I'm a fellow 8th house Sun/Mercury!

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Sun - Leo
Moon - Pisces
Ascendant - Sagittarius

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posted December 04, 2008 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message
I have an 8th house Sun and Jupiter.

My dad is still married to my mom. He did travel a lot for work while I was growing up, but I'm sure in the mind of someone who has been truly abandoned it's not quite the same thing. I never doubted or had reason to doubt that my father would come back from his trips. I don't recall ever being upset that he was missing something in my life.

My dad and I have never been as close as either of us would like to be, but I take comfort in that I know that in both of our ideal worlds we'd be close. It's just a little tough for us in person, because we're different personalities with different passions. I can't get into everything he's into and vice versa. In recent years we've learned that we share passions for innovation in electrical supply, and we are also both into politics (though from opposite sides).

So there's no loss of a dad in my life. Maybe in an ideal world I could have asked for a more appropriate mentor, but I have a lot to be thankful for overall.

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posted December 04, 2008 12:23 PM           Edit/Delete Message
8th house Sun here (Aries).
Father passed away at 10 yrs old, I never really had a male figure in my life after that, just had to figure things out on my own.

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posted December 04, 2008 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovegoblin     Edit/Delete Message
My friend has sun, mercury, and uranus in 8th house.

tough time last few years. had cancer. lost dad at early age. has been very depressed and i can't reach him.

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posted December 04, 2008 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message
I have 8th house Sun in Sagittarius. I really did lose my dad recently. And even before that my mom was being both parents.

I've found 8th house suns that I know, myself included, to have the love for psychology, philosophy, deep matters of mind and soul.

I'm not sure weather some transformation will come from my loss. Maybe just a deeper understanding of life death and destiny, i gues.

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posted December 04, 2008 04:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for triplecancer     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know too many people with 8th house suns. My friend's husband is deeply devoted to their son who has 8th house sun, and he is not an absent figure. I sure hope nothing bad happens to the father.
What I have observed with 8th house moons is issues with the mother. I know some people with this placement and I wouldn't say the mother is an absent figure, but the relationship with her is very turbulent. Very manipulative mothers, controlling and psychological abusers. Actually, in one case the mother is physically present but "absent", never gave affection to her kids.
I have sun in 12th house and my father is "absent". I see him and speak to him, but he doesn't get very much involved.

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posted December 04, 2008 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
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posted December 04, 2008 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
But your sun was in the 8th before the event, no?

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posted December 04, 2008 10:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
well see thats the problem. i dont know my rising sign therefore i cant know if it has always been in the 8th house.

ive been trying to figure out what my rising sign could be for ever!


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posted December 04, 2008 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I think it's pretty dangerous to say that 8th house placements alone foretell death - I know several people with 8th house placements who haven't had death in the picture in their lives (well, not so far...but we do all eventually die, right?).

It's good remember what the 8th house represents: Transformation (which can feel like death and rebirth), sex and sexuality, mysteries of life, inheritance, and sometimes how the endings of our relationships (such as marriages) go.

The house is ruled by Pluto and is likened to the Death card in the tarot. The Death card in tarot hardly means death in the literal sense.

Just change, and a degree of intensity.

I had thread here with the death of my grandmother - her death chart and its impact on me. That was pretty weird. But it also was less about death and more about what I learned FROM the experience. I just think it's hard to pinpoint, and maybe that's a good thing.

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posted December 04, 2008 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
good thinking virgomask.

it just makes it hard to really understand a chart without having a rising sign.
so i was thinking i might have found it, but i think you are right aswell.
death is inevitable either way.

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posted December 04, 2008 11:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message

You don't know what time you were born at all? Don't even have a hunch? Maybe try to post a thread with your chart set at noon and a recent photo - I'm sure lots of people would guess and have good insights!

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posted December 04, 2008 11:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rubi001     Edit/Delete Message
im too paranoid to post any pics of myself on the internet. lol.

a while back i started a thread about this, describing my appearance and have people try to guess but obviously no clear answer could be given.

i do know that i wasnt born at nighttime. it was daylight. other than that.....im lost

thanx for trying virgomask. youre a pal.

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posted December 05, 2008 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for savanna20     Edit/Delete Message
My sun is not in the 8th house, but my moon is. I lost my father when I was 1. But I don't like it when friends feel sorry for me. You can't miss someone you never met.

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posted December 06, 2008 10:48 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I know someone who is an 8th house sun. Her father is still around and is in his 70s. She is daddy's girl - her parents are still together. She has been fortunate to advance in life with little or no effort. she is overpaid and underworked. This has been through the help of her father getting her a job that makes over 110K/year while she reads emails and paints her fingernails. I wonder if it's cushie being handed things in life? Is Paris Hilton an 8th house Sun? - I think so and it would make sense.

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