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Deliverance
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posted December 07, 2008 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
Does the 5th house show the 1st pregnancy or the 1st child born?

If a woman miscarried her 1st pregnancy & gave birth at the end of her 2nd pregnancy would that be indicated by the 7th instead of the 5th(using the derived houses system.

Thanks

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augentier
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posted December 07, 2008 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for augentier     Edit/Delete Message
Im looking at my mom's chart..I'm her first born.

I don't see a real significant connection unless this counts..her 5th house cusp is Libra but her Neptune at 10 degree Scorpio is there...her Neptune would conjunct my ASC and my Neptune conjuncts my Sun. Don't know but that's the only connection I can come up with!

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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lalalinda
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posted December 07, 2008 07:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lalalinda     Edit/Delete Message
a live birth is the 5th house

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Deliverance
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posted December 08, 2008 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you

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Kick It
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posted December 08, 2008 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kick It     Edit/Delete Message
Birth is 5th. No matter which one.

If derived was used it would be 5th then 9th. 9th because it is the 5th from 5th. Although it does bring up an interesting discussion because 7th, then 9th, 11th etc could be used due to the further births indicating the sibling (3rd from 5th etc) of the 1st born.

Good question.

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augentier
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posted December 08, 2008 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for augentier     Edit/Delete Message
Just for kicks, I asked my mom about my birth...if it was in water, or if she was on drugs (because of Neptune) and she said no..no drugs at all and not born in water. However her water did break because my dad was play-wrestling with her and put her in a headlock and bam, her water broke

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

Mercury:: Sagittarius
Venus::Scorpio
Mars::Pisces

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Deliverance
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posted December 08, 2008 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message
Kick it, wouldn't the 9th as the 5th from the 5th indicate grandchildren

5th = child + 5 (of the child)?

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However her water did break because my dad was play-wrestling with her and put her in a headlock and bam, her water broke

LOL......your Dad sounds like a fun guy!

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blue moon
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posted December 08, 2008 03:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
I'm seconding Linda's answer.

U.K fertility statistics are compiled the same way ~ number of live births per woman.

btw my first born was a water birth, he has Neptune rising on his chart.

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