posted December 11, 2008 01:42 AM         

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Capricorn sun / Scorpio rising / Sagittarius moon

posted December 11, 2008 03:50 AM         

also..I don't believe that you have to have a natal Sun-Venus aspect to experience something that fits the symbolism of progressed Venus aspect to Natal Sun event.

From the books,that I read, I read that astrologers believe the same thing that I do...definitely the cosmobiologists

I guess all this really depends on what the astrologers believes,experiences as well as the system,methods are being used.
There is so much diversity in Astrology,and so I keep that in mind. I also believe that hard set rules don't really work. Things in Astrology can be relative. You see so many astrologers disagree on what to use in Astrology.

Actually, I am more interested in Cosmobiology in regards to looking at events focusing a lot on midpoints,45 degrees series of aspects (no soft aspects are used) as well as looking at solar arcs and secondary progressions for checking out events like the Cosmobiologists do. In cosmobiology, so-called bad aspects in Traditional are the event-oriented aspects.

for instance, a relationship,romance,love event could occur with planets conjuncting,opposition,square,semisquare,or sesquiquadrate the conjunction of the secondary progressed Venus and Natal Sun. squares,oppositions,semisquares,nor sesquiquadrates would not be seen as difficult experience according to Cosmobiologists. They would also consider midpoints that the Sun aspects to the chart(only 45 degree division aspects are used)which would give more clues to how the event involving the progressed Venus and Natal Sun would be about. So when you keep in mind that some astrologers use midpoints,and look at transits to them in regards to events. Seeing that only 45 degree division aspects are used with midpoints, then you can see that oppositions,squares,sesquiquadrates,and semisquares aren't necessarily bad aspects to have in transits. They care more about the planetary combo and not the geometrical angle in regards to how event would be like.

for example
I have Venus conjunct Sun/Jupiter midpoint,square Moon/Node midpoint all within 1 degree.

so they would take in consideration not only the aspect to my Venus, but also the aspect to my Sun/Jupiter midpoint,and square Moon/Node midpoint

they would look at transiting Sun square my Venus,and not see it as necessarily a bad thing as well as considering that its squaring my Sun/Jupiter midpoint,and conjuncting my Moon/Node midpoint.

astrologers who see oppositions,squares,semisquares,and sesquiquadrates as challenging,stressful aspects as they are viewed in mainstream astrology might have difficulty accepting the view of those aspects aren't necessarily bad and are viewed as triggers for events when aspecting natal aspects as well as solar arc-natal,secondary progressed-natal that also include midpoints.

posted December 11, 2008 04:37 AM         

Solar Return Venus conjunct Natal Venus:

You will attract a lot of love to you during this year. There is a possibility of an old love returning into your life that makes you very happy. You will also be very satisfied with your social life and will have very warm and harmonious relationships.

posted December 13, 2008 06:01 AM         

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For a Venus return chart, just go to Astro.com and mess around with the chart until you get the Venus to your exact natal position down to the second.

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I'd like to try this. Can you give more specific instructions on how to do this please? Do I mess around with the solar return chart? Or the natal chart?

posted December 13, 2008 11:38 AM         

There are instructions from DD here:
http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/015824.html

If you don't have an Ephemeris (book) then use one of the online Ephemerides, like astro.com's -- I actually like this one best since the rx's are in red:
http://www.khaldea.com/kldaephem/2000/dec2008gmt.shtml

posted December 13, 2008 11:52 AM         

Question
hi
I am just learning about venus returns and in the Venus return chart what happens if venus is not aspecting anything? there is a chart I'm reviewing and it has return venus in 3rd in a wide (10degree) applying conjunction to sun and a 4 degree separating sextile with the moon. Do you view chart as whole or just venus aspects? thanks for your help.

Answer
Hi, Erin,

With any return, be it Sun, Moon, or Venus, the most important point in the chart is what is returning. It is like a recharging of that planet's energy, and sets the trend for the coming months.

The MOST important thing in a return chart is the house the return planet falls in. Thus, with Venus, this would be the area of life Venus would be most active in during the year ahead.

Aspects are next. But keep in mind that your Venus return is rekindling all of the natal Venus aspects, so if return Venus makes no aspects in the return chart, it doesn't mean there is no Venus energy in the year ahead. It just means that it is a rekindling of the Venus energy in the native, rather than bringing new experiences to the Venus.

Next, look at any planets in the return chart that are on angles, because Venus will be expressing itself through these most noticably.

And if any natal planets are touched by the return angles, these points will be drawn into Venus' sphere even if they don't aspect Venus natally.

The easiest way to understand a Venus return chart, though, is to do Venus returns for the past 8 years and then see how they manifested in the person's life. (I say 8 years because there is an 8-year Sun/Venus cycle in everyone's life.) Not only will each year teach you
more about reading a Venus chart for this person, but the one 8-years ago will have an almost identical Sun/Venus connection and thus have many similarities to events this time around.

I hope that helps.

Best wishes,
Zane

Expert: Zane B Stein - 2/18/2008

Question
hi zane; i've plenty of questions again but i will try to limit myself
1. although i made an expansive search, i found very few about venus return. the most detailed info comes from kim falconer and cafe astrology and yet very limited. how should i interpret a venus return chart? for example 3rd house venus (actually a stellium in 3rd) means... ? are only angular houses important?
2. what does it mean: progressed venus in 7th house (when she was on my descendant it was a big deal; i still desperately feel that love inside hoping that venus moves in 7th gives a new romance story) ?
3. and i promise this is my last question: (it is a follow up question: about eclipses) i wonder if sextiles have importance in interpretation. lets say the eclipse point sextiles a natal planet?
thank you in advance.

Answer
Hi, Foglia,

1. Return charts in general are more difficult to interpret than regular transits, because you are looking at a map of a whole cycle. Whatever the return chart describes is about the whole picture until the next return. Thus a Venus return is an overview of Venus issues for the approximately 12 months until the next return, give or take.

The most important thing about Venus returns is the house Venus is in.
If it is angular, then Venus will be very prominent in your life for the
coming months. If in the intermediate houses, Venus will be less prominent, but will be more involved in day-to-day situations, building, acquiring, growth. Venus in the remaining houses (3, 6, 9, 12) shows that Venus will be less a matter of conscious activity, more automatic.
In the 3rd, though, one will have Venus matters on one's mind a lot during the period, mulling them over, seeking to understand them, asking questions, looking for connections.
A stellium in that house shows that there is a lot on your mind, many different aspects of Venus issues. Your values, what you find truly worthwhile both in yourself and in other things; what you want to attract to you; your tastes and aesthetic senses, what you find beautiful; how you show your love and affection; and, in general, relationships....some or all of these things will be on your mind.

The second thing of importance is to look at aspects Venus makes to other planets in the return chart. Squares will show obstacles you will need to deal with; oppositions will show that there will be other perspectives than your own you need to address; trines will show opportunities that will come to you and sextiles, where you can express your Venus with a little effort.

2. Venus in 7th house by progression shows that there is an increasing
desire on your part to interact with people, and draw what you wish to you. It usually shows that you will be in a relationship over the next few years.

3. Eclipses by sextile are really not significant.

Best wishes,
Zane

More links:
http://www.forecasters.co.nz/Pages/HowAstrologyWorks/venus.htm
http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?t=4393
http://www.astroresources.com/april99.htm
http://tribes.tribe.net/astrologer/thread/a0e5170f-b515-4831-8eb5-f553459b48f7

From Celeste Teal (astrologer and Nodes expert):
"Not only can these [chart] patterns reveal dynamics of the natal chart, they can also be informative about your coming year as based upon your Solar Return. This is covered in my book, "Identifying Planetary Triggers," and there's a chapter on each of the planetary returns, Moon through Saturn. Learn how to put your Mercury or your Venus Return to work... See more celebrity charts in Planetary Effects on Appearance and and Personality and in Fame & Popularity."
http://moonvalleyastrologer.com/tutorial2.htm

From Robert Wilkinson (Aquarius Papers):
"Every planet in our charts has a return at some point except the outer invisible triad, and even there if we live long enough we’ll get a Uranus return. Most will never get a Neptune or Pluto return, unless we live to 250 years, an unlikely possibility unless we are a fully realized yogi or yogini. That said, we get a Lunar return every month when the Moon returns to our natal Lunar position. We get Mercury and Venus returns once a year, a Mars return every two years, a Jupiter return every 11-12 years, and a Saturn return every 27-29 years.

posted December 13, 2008 08:29 PM         

For me personally, I don't think I'd do synastry between one of my Return charts and another person, but that doesn't mean it isn't a valid tool.....

Basically the Return chart is a snapshot of the heavens on a particular day, just like the natal chart, showing the potentials of the placements. I think a Return chart applies more to *you* and your placements than to others and their placements. The planets in *your* return chart would be just like transiting planets in *his* natal chart for that day. *Your* return chart sets the tone for the cycle of *your* Returning planet.