posted December 14, 2008 01:56 PM         

things that fit with the Mars-Neptune symbolism that I can strongly relate to

passive-aggressiveness
victim of violence
idealistic actions,motivations
confusiion,misunderstandings in regards to actions,motivations
can be tired easily,connected to feeling weak at times,fatigue
muscle weakness at times
clumsiness,suck at many sports,accident-prone due to gross motor coordination issues connected to my Dyspraxia,and the the previous listed things could be connected to..my idealism and my special education experiences are strongly connected...also I got bullied,picked on a lot when I was in special education and for not doing things like many other boys could do
get infections easily
having lower than average testosterone levels for a male,and so my sex drive is lower than average for males,and my manhood is questioned by some and attracted bullies because of that
inspiration,imagination can fuel sex drive
grew up reading Arthurian Legends,believing in chivalry,fantasized what it be like to be a knight of high ideals like the Knights of The Round Table
was in the navy - military connected to water
excellent swimmer - activity connected to water

I have midpoint pictures that add to the the Mars-Neptune theme

posted December 14, 2008 02:59 PM         

In Liz Greene's remarks, I can relate to having an idealistic/fantasy-oriented view of sex...and also the risk of Neptune-Mars people toward engaging in "black magic." As I've matured, I've had to learn to balance a desire to control or manipulate others (exacerbated by a stellium in the 8th and a Pluto-Ascendent square.) She says "the consciousness of the individual" is what differentiates Neptune white magic from Neptune black magic.

I've always wanted to have great seductive power, and I've felt most "myself" the times in life when I've had that. She says, "If combined with wounding Saturn or Chiron aspects to Mars, Venus, or the Moon, Mars-Neptune can reflect the Don Juan of either sex, perpetually seeking sexual conquests to affirm his or her divinity." I've never done that with actual sex, but as a teen I had a reputation (that I was very attached to/proud of) for being the girl that all the boys wanted but no one could "get." I definitely struggled with fantasy/image/reality issues about sex. I have a Chiron-Venus square, and Saturn aspects my Moon and Mars.

I'm not a huge fan of water. I don't hate it, and I enjoy snorkeling, but I don't LOVE water or swimming the way some people do.

posted December 14, 2008 04:29 PM         

If some of the cookbook definitions don't fit, it could be that this aspect is part of a larger configuration and so the energies are altered somewhat.

Some descriptions I have seen suggest a more spiritual type person, and maybe someone who is a little naive sometimes. Maybe too trusting. But there is imaginative potential in the energies that could be worked in variety of ways.

It depends on the chart, and above all, the individual.

Neptune asects with Mercury and/or Mars often get labelled with the 'liar' thing. But if you check out the charts of writers and poets, it seems to crop up more than seems coincidental. All astrological energies can be used for good or ill.

posted December 14, 2008 05:47 PM         

I just listed the things that I can relate to that fit with the symbolism of Mars-Neptune. They didn't come from any cookbook. There are lot of other things that fit with Mars-Neptune symbolisms. I also listed medical astrology type stuff that fits with Mars-Neptune like infections and muscle weakness. I left out things like spirituality,intuition because I think that is reflected by other things in my chart. Mars is also the animus, but I didn't mention any of that because I am a man,and I am not attracted to males. The animus interpretations are more females. My anima is Moon,Venus. Mars is also the archetypal male energy,and so I listed things that I have difficulties as a male in regards to male things that fit with the Neptune symbolism.

here is an interpretation for Mars/Neptune in Ruth Brummond's Rulebook.

I do believe that some of the factors that Mars square Neptune manifests depends on the orb of the aspects, what other planets aspect it,and even just other aspects in general,gender. also the house and sign placement,but I don't put much emphasis on those. I definitely believe that midpoints are also factors too. That's why I listed my midpoints that involve Mars-Neptune combinations. My Mars is in Aquarius in 6th house square Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd.

in my Right Ascension Chart,My Mars squares Saturn-Neptune opposition..all aspects are with the 5 degree orb that Robert Hand recommended in his book HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS. Also in the Right Ascension Chart, Uranus sesquiquadrates my Mars and semisquares my Neptune. So I have Neptune,Mars,Uranus 8th harmonic triangle. This configuration probably fits with accident-proneness in connection to my Dyspraxic-related clumsiness. Dyspraxia was known as Clumsy Child Syndrome.

Warren Fried,a Dyspraxic who is founder of DYSPRAXIA USA in Chicago in USA has Mars oppose Neptune

I did a post on him

Mars oppose Neptune indicates possible problems with the muscular system due to possible weakness as well as poor vitality and lack of energy at times which is typical of Dyspraxia. It can indicate
possible disorientation leading difficulties with planning/coordination motor movements as well as clumsiness which is typical of
Dyspraxia. It can indicate that his actions are confusing and misunderstood which fits right in with Dyspraxics. It could also indicate compassionate,idealistic,inspirational actions which can because of his own issues. In Medical Astrology, hard aspects
involving Neptune can indicate possibility of misdiagnoses as well as oversensitivity to medications.

Those definitely apply to me as a Dyspraxic like him. He told me that I was the first member to join his organization.
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.astrology/browse_thread/thread/c5827de640d8d0bd?q=astrology+warren+fried

The following is MARS/NEPTUNE interpretations from Ruth Brummond's Rulebook.

MA.NE.*
+ acts in private or seclusion. behaves obscurely. works with liquids, gases, or metaphysical phenomena. daydreams. future-oriented. good at intuiting what is feasible and what is not. visionary. instinctive.
Private, obscure, or secret activity. To explore. To deal with the unfamiliar. To deal with metaphysical factors. Secret help. Swimming. Anonymous act.
- acts secretively. deluded. unrealistic. contrary. weak-willed. resistant to work. dependent on others in one's work. negative. refusing. lacking in energy or will to carry things through. performs faulty work. fearful. cunning. wily. spiteful if unevolved. treacherous. deceptive. has misguided or poorly directed energies. irritable.
Manipulation. Uncertainty in or about work. Rejection of a job. Inactivity. Mistake. Failure. Passivity. Labor strike. To deceive. To exterminate. Infection.

I will give you interpretations for Mars and Neptune separately

MA : Mars : PSY: + strong-willed. ready for action. capable of accomplishment.
MANIFESTATIONS : Work. Job. Occupation. Actions. Workmanship. Decision. Impulse. Activity. Willpower. Energy. Struggle. Archetypal masculinity. Animus. Kinetic energy.
MED/CHEM: Inflammatory, sharp, piercing, or cutting pains. The element Iron [Fe].
- lacking in self-control. aggressive.

NE : Neptune : PSY: + empathically intuitive. empathic. highly imaginative or visionary. unperceived.
MANIFESTATIONS : Empathic intuition. Premonition. Secrecy; Privacy. Imagination. Suspense. Disillusionment. Mystification. Dissolution. Sacrifices. The unfamiliar. The obscure. The future. Subtle or low-density matter. Liquid or gaseous substances. Metaphysical phenomena. Mysticism. Amorphous substances. Abstract energies. The unconscious.
MED/CHEM: Insidious pains. Water [H2O].
- vulnerable. easily swayed. untruthful.
Vagueness; Ambiguity. Uncertainty. Deceit. Frailty. Forfeiture. Denial.

please note that these are just possible manifestations of the configuration. so not all things nor even most things will apply to you. free will is the ultimate factor.

posted December 14, 2008 07:25 PM         

btw...swimming helped me with my gross motor skills. I learned to swim when I was 3 years old. It took me a week to learn how to swim. My mom even told others that I was an excellent swimmer since the age of 3 years old. We lived in apartment complexes that had swimming pools when I was 3 to 13 years old. Therefore, I went swimming every late spring,summer until was 13 years old. I was once told that I swam like a fish when I raced two other boys,and I beat them. The thing was that I chose to swim underwater while they swam on top. I always liked to swim underwater. That definitely fits my Moon in Pisces square Neptune. I also have wide,flat feet. I should be wearing a 10 EE shoe,and I am 5'11. My feet were always big when I was growing up. I did use my feet ike flippers when swimming under water. I think the Pisces thing involving the feet really rings true for me.

I didn't want to swim competitively because I didn't want to shave the hair off my body. My mom teased me about that a little over a year ago.
Maybe that's my Mars square Neptune too. hahahahaha

the celibacy stuff is true for me.....so is the spirituality and sexual energy in conflict. I really do need a spiritual connection with somebody that I have sex with or I am just not interested. I have Mecury and Venus in Scorpio parallel Neptune which could also indicate that. I also wonder about my Sun in Scorpio trine Moon in Pisces too in regards to my need to combine spirituality and sex, and so I don't want sex without the spiritual connection. Romance has to be involved too. I tend to refer to sex as "making love". I don't like to use vulgar words in regards to sex like the f-word. I would even find it to be a turn-off.

I have Liz Green's book on Neptune. A lot of what she wrote makes sense too. She can get very verbose though.

COSMO NATAL REPORT:
Ordinary life often seems drab and uninteresting to you and you must have something that stirs your imagination, some vision or ideal or dream to motivate you. You have a strong urge to act out your fantasies or to live your dream, and you will DO things that others only talk about or dream about. Artistic creation, drama, or other areas in which you can express yourself imaginatively are excellent for you.

Work that serves only your own narrow personal interests does not satisfy you. You may lack the competitive edge, the fighting spirit, the me-first attitude that is often required for material advancement and success. You also tend to either overestimate or underestimate your own power and abilities.

FLOWER ESSENCE AND GEMSTONE REPORT:
When you are inspired and have a dream you are actively pursuing, you are apt to have tremendous energy. At other times, you may suffer from low vitality, listlessness, vacillating desires and indecision, or poor resistance to infections and other deleterious influences in your environment, anything from poisons to "toxic" people. You attract psychic leeches who vampirize your life energy and you must develop your ability to discern when you are being used in this way. Building physical strength and immunity is very important, too.

Swimming is one of the best form of exercise for you, and you are apt to have more energy to swim than for other such activities. In moderation, weight-lifting programs to build muscle could also be helpful. Because you tend to idealize strength, masculinity, or power you are apt to over do. (At some level, you may feel you are a weakling or "wimp".)

There are also many flower essences which can benefit you a great deal:

MOUNTAIN PRIDE, to promote positive, assertive, forceful energy; overcome fear and withdrawal in the face of opposition.

BLACKBERRY, to help translate dreams and ideals into concrete, viable activity.

MADIA, for disciplined focus and concentration; to overcome listlessness or "fog".

BOUVARDIA, for changing patterns of avoidance into the will to confront life directly and consciously.

YARROW, to develop a strong auric field capable of resisting toxicity in any form.

TANSY, for breaking habits that undermine positive intentions; promoting decisive action and strength to move forward and complete project.

Energy work on the root chakra to strengthen your connection with your will to live, and increase physical vitality and strength, would also be beneficial.

There may be long periods in your life of celibacy (self-chosen or not), confusion over sexuality versus spirituality, misdirected sexual energy, or simply an urge to transcend mundane physical sex. The flower essences BASIL, BALSAM POLAR and STICKY MONKEY FLOWER support clearing sexual confusion and stress in relationships related to it. CALLA LILY promotes clarity about sexual identity and sexual self-acceptance.

COSMOBIOLOGY HEALTH REPORT:
This influence inclines to poor vitality and lack of energy in general. There is a tendency to weakening of the muscles and being highly sensitive to drugs, you may be susceptible to poisoning. Potential allergies, blood problems, anemia, a weak immune system, infections and paralysis of the muscles may be indicated as well. Wrong diagnosis could also be possible.

The MARS/NEPTUNE midpoint is a major point of potential infectious diseases at the degree indicated. Low vitality and immune weakness could bring allergies, muscle deterioration and possible blood disorders.

SOLAR FIRE MIDPOINT INTERP:
Mars / Neptune
This point represents how you are inspired to take action and make plans. The sign placement gives more information on your spiritual aspirations and your artistic pursuits. It can also be where you experience a lack of energy or weakness.

posted December 14, 2008 09:57 PM         

Very interesting. I was romantically involved with a woman that has Moon in intercepted Pisces in 3rd disposited by a Neptune in Sagittarius in 1st conjunct Ascendant in Sagittarius. She told me that she's Dyslexic and even said that she would talk backwards at times. She told me that she was ADHD too. Years before she told me that, she worked as a daycare/preschool teacher with children with special needs. That really attracted me to her. I accurately had a hunch that she had Moon in Pisces,and that it was in my 7th house.

She has Mercury conjunct Moon/Neptune midpoint with 1'24 orb. She has Saturn sesquiquadrate Mercury/Neptune midpoint with 49 minutes of arc. She has Eris semisquare Mercury/Neptune midpoint with 5 minutes of arc. I believe that it's possible her strong Mercury-Neptune theme can be an indicator for her Dyslexia.

that's interesting that you said that you had difficulties with learning as a child and that you outgrew them and that you can be spacy at times.

Real learning disabilities aren't outgrown. They are connected to difficulties in processing in a certain way. They often require special education therapies to correct them. People with learning disabilities(especially ones with above average intelligence,gifted) will develop compensative strategies to cover or make up for their weaknesses. Gifted and Learning disabled are seen as average students and many do get B grades. Sometimes,they can have good grades until jr high,high school which involves lots of lecturing,taking notes,much rote memorization. Their giftedness often masks their learning disabilities,and their learning disabilities often mask their giftedness. There will be uneven areas in abilities with these types of people. This can manifest as uneven grades as well as uneven test scores. This could get them to be misunderstood as lazy,not trying,not paying attention,as well as other labels. Even though they are highly intelligent,they can even feel dumb. Dr. Harold N. Levinson noted that the more intelligent a learning disabled person is,the dumber he/she often feels. This is connected to the great self awareness of the problems that they have and their being self conscious about it. A major clue that somebody might have a learning disability is if he is intelligent,but he or she feels stupid and incompetent. The greatest warning sign is somebody in the family that also has a learning disability. Learning disabilities tend to run in families.

neuropsychological testing is used to find out if there is a problem with processing certain types of information that can lead to learning difficulties.

Could it be that you're just a rightbrained person that had problems with leftbrained way of teaching? Also auditory sequential teaching methods are the norm in schools. Visual spatial learners tend to have problems with auditory sequential teaching methods including lecturing. That's because teachers are using a style that is a mismatch for their learning style. That's why I believe that there needs to be multisensory teaching in the schools. Rightbrained types of people including especially those with learning disabilities will have problems with sequential information as well as rote memorization. They tend to be more global,holistic in their thinking,learning styles. Highly imaginative,creative,artistic types of people could have problems with learning certain types of material because it's presented in a dry way. Also many people with learning disabilities find their niches in artistic,creative fields as well as even things like working with people. Athletics too. That all depends on the type of learning disability too.

Mainstream education is more designed for factory working type. The concept of grades was based on factory working system. Education before that was multisensory,adapting to a student's learning style,and there were much fewer students in a classroom,and teachers gave much attention to their students. There tend to be a lot of one on one. There was like a close bond between teacher and his/her student.

I can pretty much relate to all the aforementioned things. I have too strong a Mercury-Neptune theme in my chart that reflects all that. I have Neptune in 3rd,Mercury parallel Neptune,Neptune oppose Saturn in Gemini,Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune midpoint,Mars square Mercury/Neptune midpoint,Neptune semisquare Mercury/Ascendant midpoint, 3rd house ruler(Pluto)sextile Neptune, 3rd house ruler(Mars as co-ruler of Scorpio)square Neptune,and my Mercury in Scorpio is also in Pisces decanate. I even have major asteroid,Pallas(which is like a 2nd Mercury)in Gemini oppose Neptune. Even my asteroid,Hermes(Mercury's greek counterpart) is in Pisces conjunct my Moon within half a degree. Moon is also associated with brain in Cosmobiology,and Uranian astrology..my Moon squares Saturn-Neptune opposition for a t-square,Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint.

I also believe that Mercury in close aspects to kuiper belt objects could be connected to learning disabilities,neurodivergence. I have Mercury in close aspect to transneptunians might also figure into learning disabilities....even midpoints involving them. The woman that I knew, a learning disabled lady that I know,and me have Mercury-Uranus-Sedna midpoint configurations in common. Also there could be close aspects of Moon to kuiper belt objects. I have those myself with my Moon square Varuna with 10 minutes of arc.

I am definitely interested in astrological research on neurodivergence,learning disabilities.

neurodivergence doesn't necessarily have to manifest as learning disabilities. This tends to happen when not in a classroom environment that doesn't match the person's learning system.

I believe that multisensory teaching that is used in Montessori,Waldorf Schools could really cut down the rate of learning difficulties in the classroom unless they have severe learning disabilities that require special education experiences like I had with my Dyslexia and Dyspraxia which was corrected with auditory therapy,speech therapy,phonics,and fine motor skills therapy.

You said in other posts that you're a creative,artistic,musical type of person. That definitely fits the rightbrained profile.

I believe that Mars square Sedna is very much like Mars square Neptune. I think with Sedna it is more otherworldly,victim,martyr than Neptune is. Sedna is located much farther from the Sun and Earth than Neptune is,and that would suggest it being more otherworldly.

I will be honest with you, I have some doubts about how Neptune is in Astrology. I believe that it's possible that some of Sedna's characteristic traits were given to Neptune. After all, when astrologers assigned certain things to Neptune,Sedna wasn't discovered at the time.

even in the discovery chart of Neptune, Mars is in a close opposition to Sedna which suggests a possibility that Sedna's energy could be confused with Neptune.

Could Mars oppose Sedna in Neptune's discovery chart be acting the victim and martyr which they say is what Neptune is like? I believe that is the case.

The learning disabled women that I know has Mars square Sedna less than 1 degree, and seemed to be able to relate to Mars square Neptune stuff. She also has an almost exact Sun trine Sedna,and she seemed to be able to relate to Sun trine Neptune too.

posted December 15, 2008 02:37 PM         

Mars-Neptune seminar excerpt ..
Howard Sasportas .. speaker ..
( ~ http://www.solsticepoint.com/astrologersmemorial/sasportas.html ~ )

.. Isabel Hickey used to refer to Mars trine or sextile Neptune as "the practical idealist." With flowing aspects, Mars ( the planet of action ) works in accord with Neptune ( the idealist, the healer, the visionary or artist ), enabling the realisation through action of ideals, dreams, healing power and creative inspiration. The conjunction ( even a well-aspected one ), the square and the opposition are much trickier. Assertion gets mixed up with Neptune, but in a difficult way. For starters, Neptune can be very foggy, so you may be uncertain or confused about what action to take in a situation. Or, because of Neptune's ego-dissolving qualities and its penchant for self-sacrifice, you may feel guilty about asserting your personal will, perhaps believing it is superior or more evolved to "flow with the cosmos" or adjust to what those around you want rather than demanding things your way. There is an archetypal conflict between the principles represented by these two planets. Mars desperately wants to affirm your ego identity through demonstrating your power and potency as an individual and through your efforts to master the world and make something of your life, while Neptune is urging you to blend, fuse or merge with others, to transcend or move beyond the differentiated ego's "me-in-here versus you-out-there" perspective on reality. Can you see the problem ?

.. I believe there is a way around this dilemma. People with Mars in aspect to Neptune generally have more success at achieving their aims and ambitions if this is not done purely for the satisfaction of the personal "I". To some degree, they need to comply with Neptune's wishes to transcend the ego's separateness. For instance, let's say I have Mars square Neptune and I'm in the process of setting up a really fine restaurant. If my primary aim is to make a lot of money for myself, or if I am doing it to prove to my mother and father or to the world that I am a capable and talented person, or if I'm seeking the fame and glory that running a high class establishment would give me, the Neptune ( by nature, anti-ego ) will somehow undermine my success. However, if one of my main reasons for starting the restaurant is to provide a service for others, I will have more chance of it getting off the ground. A major shift in attitude may be necessary with Mars conjunct or in hard angle to Neptune. To repeat, I would fair better if I held in the front of my mind that the restaurant would be providing people with good quality food - then a least I'm not in business solely for the purpose of padding my ego, and Neptune would be happier about the whole endeavour. Probably nothing is one hundred percent altruistic, so I would have to admit to my more personal egocentric motivations, but it helps if these are secondary to the idea of myself as a channel through which something worthwhile could be brought to people.

.. As a general rule, if you have a Mars-Neptune contact, and you are doing something purely for the sake of bolstering your own ego, Neptune will eventually will find a way to undermine you. I've often noticed that Mars-Neptune people are better at doing things for other people rather than just for themselves. They can be very powerful when fighting for a co-worker's rights or working on an animal-liberation campaign, but if they are doing something just for their own sake, they often can't get the project going, or it fails on them in the end. A Mars-Neptune aspect asks that your identity and potency be affirmed through serving others, or by acting as a channel through which something greater than yourself can manifest.

.. This last point needs further elaboration. Mars-Neptune contacts can be used constructively if you serve as a channel through which the transpersonal or super-conscious dimension of life reveals itself. A true artist, for example, is receptive to what has been called "the imaginal realm," the plane of existence on which the archetypal and universal images, ideas and feelings circulate. Through some kind of creative outlet, people with soft or hard angles of Mars to Neptune could act as mediums through which the imaginal realm is communicated to others. By nature, true psychics, mystics and healers are open to energies beyond the boundaries set by the personal ego, and in this way they are also channels for something higher or greater than themselves to come through. Neptune approves of self-transcendence, and would be pleased if Mars was used in a sensible fashion to further this end.

posted December 15, 2008 05:33 PM         

I fantasize everyday. Very hard to stay grounded. And sexually my on going fantasy relates to the house neptune falls in.

posted December 15, 2008 06:11 PM         

My mother and I both have Moon in hard aspect to its dispositor in 3rd house. My Mom has Moon in Scorpio square Pluto in 3rd,and I have Moon in Pisces square Neptune in 3rd. My mom told me that she has a lot of the Dyslexic symptoms.
They usually test for both Dyslexia and ADHD. Dyslexia and ADHD symptoms overlap. Many Dyslexics have ADHD and vice versa. I am one of them. From what my mom told me and the things she told me about my father, my father too.

Dyslexics have rightbrained strengths like thinking mainly in pictures,strong 3D visualization ability,lateral/global thinking,and intuitive. They tend to be creative,artistic types. http://www.dys-add.com/symptoms.html

Why is dyslexia a gift?
Dyslexic people are visual, multi-dimensional thinkers. We are intuitive and highly creative, and excel at hands-on learning. Because we think in pictures, it is sometimes hard for us to understand letters, numbers, symbols, and written words.

We can learn to read, write and study efficiently when we use methods geared to our unique learning style. http://www.dyslexia.com/

Astrologers tend to focus on Mercury,3rd house afflictions because they seem to focus on the weaknesses of Dyslexia which tend to be misunderstood. Like many people think Dyslexia is seeing words backwards when there are Dyslexics that visual processing problems,but they don't necessarily see words backwards. Some actually have Irlen Syndrome aka Scotopic Sensitivity connected to eyes hypersensitive to light. They usually do well with colored overlays. Some might have problems with eye tracking due to poor eye coordination or in other words,clumsy eyes. Many Dyslexics have phonological and auditory processing problems too. They tend to have problems with memory when it comes to two dimensional things as well as problems with rote memorization,facts,and figures and short term memory. They tend to do well with remembering 3D objects and have good long term memory. Many Dyslexics have a history of ear infections,and even had tubes inserting in their ears. The gal that worked with special needs told me that she had history of ear infections and had tubes inserting in her ear.
Interestingly, Liz Greene mentioned the possibility of Dyslexia with Neptune in 3rd house. She talked about other things that many Dyslexics have a history of thinking in pictures,strong visualization,and even not speaking clearly. The symptoms and manifestations of Dyslexia vary. Not all Dyslexics are alike. My Neptune in 3rd is involved in t-square though. I believe it depends on how Neptune in 3rd is aspected. The Dyslexic strengths and weaknesses fit with Mercury-Neptune symbolism in general. It's mainly the right hemisphere strengths that tend to work too strongly that it interferes with left hemisphere processing. Therefore, to help correct Dyslexia, they use therapies to train Dyslexics to learn to harness his right hemisphere strengths in order for the left hemisphere processing to work more efficiently. They try to make them more leftbrained. Some believe that auditory Dyslexics are left ear dominant which means that they are processing auditory information with their right hemisphere of the brain when the left hemisphere is the language part of the brain. Broca's area which is used for speech and Werniche's which is used for understanding speech are located in the left hemisphere of the brain too. There are studies that show that Dyslexic brain's work almost 5 times the brain area than a nonDyslexic's brain when performing an ordinary language task.

Saturn is the planet associated with the ears. Mercury is the planet associated with the nervous system. Mercury-Saturn connections have to do with auditory processing. Hard Mercury-Saturn aspects might be involved with auditory processing, and Neptune in connection could fit with the confusion,disorientation involving Dyslexia as well as the strong imagination,visualization,thinking in pictures.

I also strongly suspect that Mercury in aspect to transneptunians could be involved in Dyslexia and other neurodivergent conditions. Neurodivergent conditions are so misunderstand and unknown that seems to fit more with the transneptunians which have been unknown for years.

Does your father's Mercury aspect Neptune or does he have any midpoint pictures involving Mercury-Neptune. Does he have right hemisphere strengths which i said to be typical of Dyslexics?

any familial mixed handedness? Anybody lefthanded and/or ambidextrous? My maternal grandfather was lefthanded. One of my maternal uncles is lefthanded,and he has history of stuttering. My mom who told me that she's Dyslexic like me, and she told me that she is very imaginative, thinks mainly in pictures,visualizing things nonstop like I do. She also told me that she can write with her left hand even though she's righthanded. I also have some ability to write lefthanded. I believe that I would probably be ambidextrous if the fine motors skills therapist concentrated on both my hands and not just my right hand to correct my fine motor skills problems. She is also left ear and left eye dominant like I am. Our neurological processes are alike.

"But I had ended up having neither, like Glaucus said, the education system caters to children that can are more left-brained. In school I used to have a "C" average or worse, but by highschool I either was able to focus more or the fact that I went to a Alternitive Art Highschool made me more academically inclined. What does Sedna trine Neptune indicate?"

I would probably would have done much better in an alternative school that was more geared towards rightbrainers and not just leftbrainers.

I got a B average in the 720 hr. Massage Therapy course.

Sedna and Neptune seem to be very similar. They would seem to reinforce each other's characteristics. it's a generational aspect,and so it wouldn't be significant.....it would depend on the house placements and aspects...especially it involves personal planets and points. I have Sedna in 8th quincunx Neptune in 3rd, and it's more personalized with my Moon sextile Sedna,and my Moon square Neptune.

I am starting to think that some of the metaphysical Neptune qualities that are assigned to Neptune might actually belong to Sedna....especially with Sedna being more "out there" literally. or they just share those higher qualities. Sedna is named after a seagoddess too.
I think of Sedna as like a higher octave of Neptune.