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Topic: Taurus are born dictators/communists!
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Taury
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posted December 16, 2008 05:03 PM
 
I'm a Taurus. I laughed my head off (shouldn't have, my up front apologies) when I found out these guys are also Taurus:Karl Marx
Nikolai Lenin
Adolf Hitler
Ho Chi Minh (triple Taurus)
Pol Pot
Saddam Hussein What happened to Taurus being peace lovers? What do you guys think caused this? My suspicion is in the stubborn trait. Once they set their mind on some idea, they don't change. IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California,USA
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posted December 16, 2008 05:05 PM
shrugswasn't Siddartha Guatuama aka Buddha also a Taurus? He was definitely a peace lover. also...you have to take the rest of the chart into account for instance Adolf had Venus-Mars in Taurus squaring Saturn. He also had Mercury in Aries in his Right Ascension Chart, his Sun is in Aries. IP: Logged |
Kat
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From: Cleveland, Ohio
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posted December 16, 2008 05:15 PM
Strangely I just read yesterday that men with venus/mars conjunctions have the potential of being violent if the energy is not focused in a productive pursuit like sports, dance, work, etc. They had a list of several dictators with this aspect.They supposedly have a love (venus) of war (mars) or beligerent disposition.They may become physically violent, and could potentially rape. If it is productive energy it could mean professional sports, graceful motion, passionate lovemaking, attractive physique, athletic.I was wondering if this is so???IP: Logged |
Snow_Dream
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From: Wichita, Kansas USA
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posted December 16, 2008 08:01 PM
Can we please add my daughter Rhiannon B. to the list?IP: Logged |
Green Fairy
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posted December 16, 2008 08:03 PM
George Bush - Cancer
I'm not all that proud of that one :SIP: Logged |
Taurus83
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posted December 16, 2008 08:58 PM
Not gonna get into a lot of politics... but Ho Chi Minh actually wasn't a bad guy.He had good ideals and intentions but after he passed away the people who were left in charge screwed everything up and were corrupt. Same with Saddam. Look at how Iraq is after he's gone. You can want everywhere to have a Democracy but different forms of government are ideal for different cultures. It just won't work in Iraq. At least with him around there was some semblance of peace and people could live their lives without fear of being killed walking to school or going to work. Literacy rates were very high as well while he was around because he made it mandatory for all children to be in schools. IP: Logged |
libraschoice7
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From: Arizona
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 16, 2008 09:00 PM
You forgot to add my fav... Evita Peron(Sun Taurus Moon in Leo and ascendant in Aries)  ------------------
Sun in Libra
Moon in Cancer
Jupiter in Cancer
Venus in Virgo
Mars in Cancer
Ascendant in Cancer "I was born when she kissed me. I died when she left me. I lived a few weeks while she loved me" IP: Logged |
triplepisces
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posted December 16, 2008 10:00 PM
Dictators? Ho Chi Minh is NOT a dictator!!!! It was patriotism, not communism, that inspired him to lead us out of colonism under France and America. You should read history carefully and don't draw such hasty conclusion based on just Nixon view. I can't help feeling really angry :| I came from there T_______T Taurus has good leadership qualities is the best description, I think. People who disagree with their policies will say they are bad leaders, who agree will say opposite. Politics is a mess yet it all came down to whoever cares about the interest of the mass. I respect him who dedicated his life to the revolution and of Vietnam's struggle for independence. IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California,USA
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posted December 16, 2008 11:31 PM
Politics is a very touchy subject. hehIP: Logged |
Taury
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posted December 17, 2008 01:30 AM
Lol geez some people are touchy. Where do you think I'm from? This was never meant to be a political topic, so if it's not astrology related, please don't post.IP: Logged |
Peri
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From: Kyiv, Ukraine
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 17, 2008 03:28 AM
yes, Taureans are evil and horrible people...  and I am one of them!!!! so be scared everyone   Snow_Dream, that was hilarious! P.S. btw Lenin was Vladimir, Nikolai was his older brother. IP: Logged |
buena36
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From: Europe
Registered: Jul 2008
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posted December 17, 2008 05:11 AM
Here is another Taurus:Watch yourself: I am "dictator" as well! When I see, that Hitler had the same Sun sign (but 0 degrees of Taurus, what is much different from other Taurus) and ASC Libra (he doesn't look like Libra at all) like I have, then I don't believe much in Astrology. He has 6 times of birth. Somebody did so, that he is ASC Libra, 26 degrees. Not all Taurus are bad. There are very nice actors and actresses, like: Michelle Pfeiffer, Uma Thurman, Gary Cooper, George Clooney and some more. Buena
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heart cakes
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From: canada
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posted December 17, 2008 11:45 AM
kat! that is really interesting about the mars-venus conjunction. i know a guy with this. he is VERY charismatic, sexy, and almost convinced me to sleep with him just for the heck of it (i'm not into one night stands) a while back. he's into martial arts and sometimes his attitude is frighteningly over the top (in one way he's joking, in another, i really have to wonder). he's a really terrific, nice guy, but once in a while i can sense that too-violent potential in him. anyway, yeah i can definitely see that either-or dichotomy in him, a pronouced venus at times, and at others, pronounced mars. and the intensity of it, wow!IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California,USA
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posted December 17, 2008 12:25 PM
You have to keep in mind that Adolf Hitler's Venus conjunct Mars was square Saturn.Saturn modifies that Venus-Mars conjunction big time. Classical and Vedic Astrologers view both Mars and Saturn as malefics. They would look at malefics in hard aspects to each other as a highly malefic combination.
Another thing to point out. Adolf wanted to be an artist. He applied to art school,but was turned down. He went into the military and fought in World War 1.
He actually had pretty good artistic ability in regards to being an architect. His weaknesses were in making artistic compositions in regards to human beings. If you look at his minor aspects. He had Saturn quintile Neptune,and Moon biquintiled both to form a Golden Yod. It was a close configuration,and so Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint. That midpoint configuration tends to be interpreted very negatively. Ebertin interpreted it very negatively in his book, COMBINATION OF STELLAR INFLUENCES. It made me wonder if his interpretation was based on Adolf Hitler's Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint. I have Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint too, and it's because of my t-square of Moon square Saturn-Neptune opposition.
also...if you look at the big kuiper belt objects...they seem to add a more intense,darker picture to him
Eris sesquiquadrate Midheaven - '07
This fits right with his ideological issues in regards to Aryan supremacy and hatred of Jews as well as discord. Of course starting World War 2. Sun conjunct Makemake - 1'08
Makemake is the 3rd largest dwarf planet after Eris and Pluto. Moon semisquare Orcus - '51
Orcus is a big plutino,and so has a similar orbit to Pluto..it's named after counterpart of Pluto Varuna oppose Midheaven - '15
named after Vedic God of the waters,once was the supreme God. .......it seems to be related to judgment,justice......in Hitler's case,the judgment was extrme prejudice Mercury square Chaos - '34 Ascendant square Chaos - 1'35 Haumea sesquiquadrate Ascendant - '27
Haumea is the 4th largest dwarf planet after Eris,Pluto,and Makemake Moon sesquiquadrate Huya - '54
Jupiter sesquiquadrate Huya - '42
Moon conjunct Jupiter - 1'36
Huya is a plutino
he had very strong Kuiper Belt energy in his chart. Varuna was his strongest influence with it oppose his Midheaven with only 15 minutes of arc.
actually Midheaven = Varuna = Eris he also had Moon = Orcus = Huya = Saturn/Neptune He has a 5th harmonic isosceles trapezoid of Moon,Saturn,Neptune,Eris Moon/Saturn midpoint in 25'02 Libra
Neptune/Eris midpoint in 24'56 Aries Isosceles trapezoids have corresponding midpoint-midpoint conjunctions or oppositions. Magi Society called them Magi Quads. They are also known as planetary pictures in Uranian Astrology. Actually an opposition to a near midpoint is actually a conjunction to the far midpoint. also...corresponding midpoint picture triangles Eris conjunct Moon/Neptune - '18
Neptune conjunct Saturn/Eris - '24
Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune - '31
Saturn oppose Moon/Eris - '37 
I believe kuiper belt objects can fill in some holes. That's why I want to add them to charts. I just think that I need to use a more up to date Astrology. I have very strong Kuiper Belt energy too,and it seems to fill in some holes. I am tired of trying to fit my chart with mainstream astrological views like my Saturn oppose Neptune indicates my father issues when I believe it's my Sun oppose Sedna.
Raymond
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MysticMelody
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posted December 17, 2008 01:11 PM
LOL Taury and Snow_Dream IP: Logged |
taurus/gemini cusp
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From: London, England
Registered: Sep 2006
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posted December 17, 2008 01:13 PM
What's with all the Taurus threads?! Boy - we're ******* everybody off lately!!! IP: Logged |
Glaucus
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From: Sacramento,California,USA
Registered: Jul 2006
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posted December 17, 2008 01:30 PM
There is nothing about Karl Marx about being a dictator. It's like he was man with revolutionary,unconventional ideas that didn't fit well with the mainstream.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Marx
It's more like dictators have twisted his concepts for their own purposes too.
it just seems like guilt of association
also....the whole chart has to be considered
He has that Sun conjunct/parallel Moon in Taurus. He has a Solar Eclipse. Eris squares that. Sun square Eris with 14 minutes of arc,and Moon square Eris with 2'55 orb. That modifies the Taurus traits of his Sun and Moon, and so more divergent and controversial type of Taurus. He also has Eris sextile Midheaven with 28 minutes of arc. He has Sun biquintile Uranus - '25
so revolutionary,unconventional,creative He has Moon sesquiquadrate Neptune - '07
and Moon semisquare Pluto - '18
He has Neptune square Pluto,and his Moon aspects that. Therefore he has Moon,Neptune,Pluto 8th harmonic triangle. This is about emotional connections to the subtle as well as combined emotional sensitivity,intensity. He has Mars quincunx Uranus with 1'15 orb and Mars contraparallel Uranus with 26 minutes of arc.
He has Mercury contraparallel Uranus - '13
He has Jupiter parallel Uranus - '24 All those combined indicate a highly unconventional,revolutionary,innovative person  there is a lot more to consider too,but I don't want to make this post long. but yeah...I put a lot more emphasis on planetary geometry and very little emphasis on zodiac sign placements..especially sunsigns. That's why I am leaning more towards a geometrical based astrological system like Cosmobiology. Karl Marx's Uranus and Eris aspects modify his Taurus traits big time. IP: Logged |
Peri
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From: Kyiv, Ukraine
Registered: Dec 2003
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posted December 17, 2008 01:42 PM
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What's with all the Taurus threads?! Boy - we're ******* everybody off lately!!!
definitely! and not just on LL! 
I noticed Taureans usually get a bad rap, I truly dont know why, probably we are the most misunderstood sign. IP: Logged |
GemLover
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posted December 17, 2008 01:54 PM
I'm a Taurus... and Karl Marx was no dictator. I've studied Marxist theory (as well as neo-Marxist) and well, yeah... I would consider myself a Marxist in many regards. All of my best friends are Marxists and you will not meet a bunch of people who are any more ethical and fair-minded. Also the concept of communism/socialism has been twisted by the corrupt (totally agree with Glaucus here). Power to the people.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMKsR_wUSfA IP: Logged |
Lara
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posted December 17, 2008 02:02 PM
maybe Peri,I felt misunderstood most of my life, especially with my aries dad lol IP: Logged |
GemLover
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posted December 17, 2008 02:04 PM
Why do you think we feel misunderstood?IP: Logged |
Peri
Moderator Posts: 2746
From: Kyiv, Ukraine
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posted December 17, 2008 02:06 PM
GemLover, we do not 'feel' misunderstood, we are.
Just read posts about Taureans, no one ever says a good thing about Taurus  IP: Logged |
lovegoblin
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From: norfolk, virginia USA
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posted December 17, 2008 02:11 PM
My mom is a taurus.
She has lots of friends.
People say good things about her.She is also a tyrant. ha ha.
Her way or the highway. IP: Logged |
Lara
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From: London
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posted December 17, 2008 02:18 PM
and yet we are the most feminine, sensual, sexy... we have a brain and balls which might be where people get confused? IP: Logged |
AcousticGod
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From: Pleasanton, CA, USA
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posted December 17, 2008 02:26 PM
I share a birthday with Chairman Mao and the imfamous Bill Ayers......also Jimmy Buffet, Lars Ulrich, etc. Of course I'm embarrassed by being a Capricorn with the likes of Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and Karl Rove. IP: Logged |
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