posted December 17, 2008 04:51 PM              

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Often called the Inconjunct. An aspect of 150 degrees between two planets. The quincunx is thought to be one of the most important minor aspects. It is valid with an orb of up to three degrees. Even astrologers who do not usually work with minor aspects often include quincunx aspects in their interpretations.

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I never paid munch attention to my quincunx aspects until I realized that both of them have a tight orb of 0' more or less. I thought I had a Yod in my chart but the sextile between the the two quincunxes was to wide 6', instead of the 5' orb rule that Robert Hand suggests. It bothers me that Astro.com uses such wide orbs, now I reduce the orb size by 50% and I the orb's are 5' or less. This really helped me focus on the most major aspects in my natal chart.

I have Sun Quincunx Neptune (0'), I read the description in the Aspect book by Robert Pelletier (this book is really in-depth, and helps if you want to really understand each aspect in your chart). It describes this aspect as:

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You are unsure of yourself and are continually trying to find ways to prove your competence. And be wary of people who will exploit you, for they may successfully hide their negative ambitions from you.

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I couldn't believe how accurate this was for me, especially since the ruler of my Moon is Neptune, I give and give my emotional support honestly (but in a different way than a martyr type), and sometimes it is difficult to find people who are sincere, but this description made it obvious that I'm prone to being drained by Pisces sun a lot (Neptune), and Leos (Sun), so the theory that natal aspects can manifest externally is so true.

My other tight orb quincunx is Moon quincunx Mercury (0'), this one hits me hard because my Moon is in the third house which Mercury/Gemini rules, not to mention that my Sun is conjunct Mercury and I have Gemini Venus, so the third house is definitely a focal point of my chart. Basically this aspect reminded me of how I feel often:

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You overreact emotionally to situations and so cannot rationalize them properly.

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This is what I recently experienced:

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In your romantic associations you try to hard to be desired. You put yourself in difficult situations with the person you are attracted to and are crushed if your efforts are unrewarded. Learn to let a relationship develop without putting pressure on it.

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That last sentence is going to be my new mantra

posted December 17, 2008 05:11 PM            

my father had Sun-Mercury in Capricorn trine Saturn, and so my Sun quincunx Saturn in Gemini could be an inheritance of Sun-Saturn with Mercurial influence from him.

My stepfather had Sun conjunct Mercury in Leo.

I believe that aspect is good for being humble,disciplined,serious,taking life seriously,and maturity though. I grew up with a lot of discipline and structure. I was in the navy for 7 years, and there was a lot of structure there. Discipline was definitely essential to handle life there.

My Eris quincunx Ascendant in Virgo with 1'12 orb. I think manifests as somebody that is seen divergent and controversial to the point of getting treated like an outsider. This was definitely the case when I was in special education. This also fits with my not fitting male stereotypes. I also believe that it also fits with my ethnic minority appearance with my mixed racial background.

the good thing is my belief and tolerance of diversity and my belief in equality. being an advocate,standing up for self and others also fits too.

There are astrologers that will use orbs wider than 3 degrees.....some astrologers will use 10 degree orb. The author of a book on Inconjunct uses 10 degree orbs for quincunx.
btw...if somebody thinks that he has a quincunx and it's actually around 6 degrees, it's definitely not a quincunx. It's either a biquintile which is a 5th harmonic aspect or a triseptile which is a 7th harmonic aspect. I have Mars biquintile Pluto. I also have Sun biquintile Midheaven, but my Saturn conjuncts Midheaven, and my Sun quincunxes Saturn.

biquintile should show in astro.com
if it doesn't,then it's a triseptile. You can check your 7th harmonic chart and see if the planets conjunct in 7th harmonic. If they are,then they are definitely in triseptile.

another thing

I have Robert Hand's book, HOROSCOPE SYMBOLS

he recommends 5 degrees for conjunction,opposition,trine,and square.
He recommends 3 degrees for sextile
he recommended 1.5 degrees for quincunx,semisextile,quintile,biquintile,
semisquare,and sesquiquadrate

He recommends 1 degree for all other minor aspects

.5 degree for 22.5 series aspects .....Uranian Astrologers use 22.5 series aspects including with midpoints.

I would never use 5 degrees for a quincunx. That would run into the biquintile or triseptile.

you can also tell the aspect by looking at the harmonic chart of it

My Sun quincunx Saturn with 13 minutes of arc is Sun conjunct Saturn with 2'31 orb in a 12th harmonic chart.

My Sun biquintile Midheaven with 5 minutes of arc is Sun in 4'13 Gemini and Midheaven in 14'47 Leo in 12th harmonic chart.......that's no way near a conjunction

but in 5th harmonic chart, it is Sun conjunct Midheaven with 31 minutes of arc. It is definitely a strong biquintile and not a quincunx.....not even a weak one.

Geometrical Angle Aspects and Harmonics are strongly connected.

wholesign aspects were used a long time ago, but the quincunx and semisextile were not used. Ptolemy used aspects by sign......not geoemtrical angle

but astrologers decided to apply geometrical angles to aspects.

Johannes Kepler opened a can of worms by devising 5th harmonic aspects(quintile,biquintile) which are not wholesign aspects. He devised the sesquiquadrate too. 5 x 45 = 135. He was into the 5's in regards to musical harmonic theory.

a biquintile is 144 degrees

a triseptile is 154'17'08 degrees

as you see, using an orb of 5 degrees for a quincunx runs into these aspects

I have Moon quincunx Pluto with 2'19 orb degrees, and I can identify with the Moon-Pluto symbolism

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I have Moon sesquiquadrate Sun/Pluto midpoint with 5 minutes of arc any way.

I also have Sedna semisquare Moon/Pluto midpoint with 5 minutes of arc too

those midpoint pictures could help me relate to thinking that I have an intense emotional nature and experienced power issues with my mother which astrologers using wide orbs would attribute to my Moon quincunx Pluto.

in the 12th harmonic chart, Moon and Pluto are no way near a conjunction
Moon in 8'10 Taurus and Pluto in 10'12 Aries. Therefore a 2 degree semisextile.

I am not sure about using over 1 degree o

Eris quincunx Ascendant with 1'12 orb
is Eris conjunct Ascendant 14'24 orb in 12th harmonic chart.
15 degree orb has been used for conjunctions by harmonic astrologers. David Hamblyn,a harmonic astrologer,uses 12 degrees.
He uses 1 degree orb for a quincunx too. He wouldn't count quincunxes more than 1 degree.

Aspects and Harmonics are strongly connected.
Aspects are not just degree divisions of a circle but also fractions of a circle too. Harmonics are based on fractions of a circle

conjunction 1/1
opposition 1/2
trine 1/3,2/3
square 1/4,3/4
sextile - 1/6,5/6
semisextile - 1/12,11/12
quincunx - 5/12,7/12

before 180 degrees, aspects are waxing
after 180 degrees, aspects are waning

posted December 17, 2008 06:41 PM              

Aqua/Scorp I can post an interpretation of Moon quincunx Mars, if you like?

Glaucus, I forgot about Robert Hand's rule that quincunxes can only have a orb of 3' or less. Fortunately both quincunxes have a small orb. I don't know much about harmonics, even though I've been studying astrology, its only been the past two years or so that I've really expanded my knowledge, this site has helped me
a lot!

posted December 17, 2008 07:09 PM            

Would I be able to request an interpretation or general idea of what Moon quincunx Neptune is all about? My Neptune is in the 7th house and my Moon is in the 12th. My Moon is conjunct Jupiter, which is the ruler of my 7th House and so that's one of the connections between my 'ideal' partner and my subconscious. And I assume that since the connection is partially based on a quincunx, that there must be a conflict involving illusion vs. reality when it comes to that stuff.

I also remember reading somewhere in a book on medical astrology (of which I know very little) that Moon quincunx Neptune was a classic aspect indicating infertility. I thought that was interesting since one of my endocrinologists told me he thought I would never be able to conceive.

posted December 17, 2008 07:57 PM              

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Moon quincunx Neptune: With the moon inconjunct Neptune you are sympathetic toward others. You demonstrate how much you care by offering service when help seems needed. Because of your deep-feeling nature, it is difficult for you to remain detached. You are like a mother hen seeking to protect her brood when danger threatens. Unconsciously, however, you are constantly seeking situations in which you can persecute yourself. Thus you are able to spiritually fulfill your social obligations and justify your deep response to them. Your imagination works overtime in creating problems to solve.

Your romantic interests may prove disappointing until you can relate to others honestly and realistically. It is not easy for you to see people as they really are. You tend to project on them the qualities they can't possibly live up to, and you feel let down when they don't measure up to your expectations. You are also vulnerable to deception by people who misrepresent themselves. You will have many unsatisfactory alliances until you learn to insist that others establish their credentials before you become inextricably involved.
You are a romantic and can find solace through artistic pursuits or any creative expression. You inspiration can effectively enrich your private moments with serenity.

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posted December 17, 2008 08:07 PM              

pluto 20' quincunx NN 18'/moon 20'/venus 21'

Moon Quincunx (Inconjunct) Pluto
You confuse intensity with desire, and need with love. As a consequence of this, your relationships with others (especially romantic partners) can be powerful and "spicy" without engendering much closeness. It takes time for you to recognize the habits that get in the way of intimacy; it takes time to alter them once recognized. Letting go of negative history lays the groundwork for change. Give others permission to be different than everyone else has been before. Through this, you give yourself permission to be different.

posted December 18, 2008 12:50 AM            

I found all of that to be very true. Alot of it is stuff I've been consciously working through for the past few years, as well as currently. Which book did you refer to for the quincunx information?? (The one by Robert Pelletier?) I definitely think it's an undervalued aspect in astrology.

posted December 18, 2008 06:50 PM              

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Moon inconjunct Mars shows that you lack self-control in expressing your feelings. You tend to misjudge people and to form binding alliances with individuals who take advantage of your indulgence. Even when other abuse and misuse you, you never raise a hand to defend yourself. You feel powerless to oppose the oppressive demands that people make of your talents, and when they exploit you, you are bitter and disappointed. The most disturbing result of this process is that you may become hardened in your dealings with people. Your greatest problem is to resolve the conflict between your desire to be useful to people and their expectations that you will make up for their deficiencies.

Resist the temptation to offer yourself to others. Although it might seem to be the only way to get people to like and admire you, you will actually lost their respect by such gestures. Mind your own business and beg off when people try to get involved in their affairs. Take care of your own responsibilities and develop skills that will give you the self-confidence you need to be satisfied with yourself. You may be criticized for being selfish, but you will save a lot yourself a lot of headaches.
Planets in Aspect by, Robert Pelletier

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posted December 19, 2008 10:18 PM            

The quincunx is related to the signs Virgo and Scorpio and often relates to adjustments needed to maintain health (Virgo) or dealing with perhaps uncomfortable emotional undercurrents (Scorpio). When there is a quincunx in SYNASTRY the person with the planet 6 signs away from the other person’s planet often plays a Virgo type role in the relationship and feels a compulsion to help or assist that person is some way, where as the person with the planet 8 signs away plays a Scorpio type role and represents of sort of fascinating mystery to the Virgo role person, they are also more likely to speak up about the truth of certain undercurrents going on the dynamic between them.

Using my own example involving Venus and the Moon, that quincunx seems to represent a craving for affection as well as a tendency to be a little embarrassed about my need for intimacy and love (Moon is the 8th house ruler). Thankfully, Venus is trine to Saturn and opposite Jupiter and so I have input from other areas of my chart alleviating the situation somewhat, but it’s still there and it’s a constant learning process. Venus is the ruler of my 6th house and maintaining my health and energy levels has also meant lots of adjustment, and because of my constant experimentation involving supplements and nutrition I have learned a great deal about this topic and know a lot of ‘secrets’ for improving ones beauty and health over time. I’m very into alternative health (on a side note it might be worth mentioning that Uranus is in the 11th conjunct my 12th house cusp and therefore opposite my 6th house cusp). As the ruler of my 11th house cusp, the Venus quincunx tends to make me feel as if I just don’t fit in with a the group, but the trine from Saturn shows I’m generally regarded as being dependable and the opposition from Jupiter seems to show that when the spotlight does fall on me from time to time I can be seen as being very likeable and cute. Although, sometimes if people bother me about things I’m uncomfortable about in a ‘group of friends’ type situation I can start to feel very awkward and embarrassed and can put people off, which I hate. I’m hoping I can learn a better way of dealing with this as I get older…

posted December 27, 2008 04:22 PM              

I read that it has an underlying quality of exoticness to planetary linkage. There is a strange and mysterious magnetisim. it is linked to the eighth house and adds a quality of fascination with the unknown.

posted June 22, 2011 05:46 AM            

Your sense of wonder and your openness to the unseen,
subtle, spiritual dimensions of life are two of your gifts. You
are extremely sensitive to the energies and currents of feeling
around you and, because you are so impressionable and receptive,
you are influenced (even duped) rather easily. Throughout your
life you maintain a certain childlike belief in magic and in
wishing, and you tend to escape into the inner world of your
imagination (or anesthetize yourself with movies, or soap
operas, or food) when the outside world seems either too dull or
harsh for you. It is important for you to learn to deflect
negative or turbulent emotional influences in your environment,
as you tend to get "sucked in" to others' feeling-world.

The "wonder-child" aspect of yourself can be invaluable,
connecting you with the world of spirit and your true home.
Along with this is a strong current of emotional idealism and
devotion to the Mother. This gives you a great capacity for
nurturing, empathy, mercy, and compassion, yet there is a
downside to this: a tendency to become a martyr. Beware of
sacrificing yourself to take care of other people or to try to
rescue or "save" them.

Excessive dependency, passivity, and wishing to be taken
care of are all themes around which some of your greatest
challenges revolve. Either you yourself tend to succumb to such
impulses (feeling yourself to be weak, needy, a victim) or you
may attract other people into your life who play that role. For
men, this can also lead to yearning for the perfect woman who
will love and accept them unconditionally and meet all of their
needs - but who inevitably disappoints, as flesh-and-blood women
cannot fulfill that illusion for long. Women, on the other
hand, may try to be the perfect woman, all-accepting,
all-giving. Either of these can be traps for you.

You also need to be extremely cautious with intoxicants,
mood-altering substances or practices as these can create much
confusion and distort your perceptions to the point where you
lose touch with your genuine mystical and intuitive abilities.

posted June 22, 2011 01:08 PM            

When things become too much for me, I would retreat from the world, turn the music all the way up, and escape into it.

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You also need to be extremely cautious with intoxicants,
mood-altering substances or practices as these can create much
confusion and distort your perceptions to the point where you
lose touch with your genuine mystical and intuitive abilities.

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This is so very true. Last month I started taking anxiety medications my doctor prescribed and as soon as I stopped taking them (due to feeling better) I started hallucinating, for the very first time. I'm very sensitive to the side effects, so thank god it's completely out of my system now.