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sinderlou
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posted December 18, 2008 06:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
thank u so much for the time that you took on the charts.......it seems pretty accurate...so you say that he has changed his idea of the ideal woman? is that what u meant?....can you tell if he wants to or is involved with another woman......maybe that is why he did this to me....

you are on the money about his work...he is on the verge of a promotion last time i was with him......

is there any way to tell if we will get back together?
that is where i mainly stand,,,i am not sure if this is temporary or permanent....i cannot move forward....i just stay still in one place......

thank u

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sinderlou
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posted December 18, 2008 08:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
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alvarella777
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posted December 19, 2008 04:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Sinderlou,

I wish I (or anyone else) was able to find an answer to your question: whether this guy is with another woman right now - or not. I guess, this news (even if it was on the bad side, saying "yes, he's with another now") could be soothing in a way - making it easier for you to let go.

But I must tell you: NO ONE can read things like these from a chart! At its best, any chart or "horoscope" can give nothing more than a "weather report" - tellings us something about the "climate", atmosphere a certain person might be living in for a certain time. The more experienced an astrologer, the more "accurate" he/she might be able to "predict" what "climate/weather" a person might go through, at a specific moment.

But, it is like a "weather report" only: Even if it rains ... you can decide to look after yourself, take an umbrellla and all. You can also ignore the weather forceast and just dress in a bikini - get soaked and wet and catch a cold. Understand what I want so say?

So - I certainly don't know whether this guy is with someone new now or when or if he'll ever be. The indicators in his chart (from transiting planets) do tell or allude that he is just about to re-consider several aspects in his life. One of these aspects definitely seems to be his job life, daily routine, ideas of personal success and (professional) reward. From his chart it seems that he is very concerned with these matters at the moment - and, from that perspcetive alone, he might come across as a bit selfish end ego-centric, currently. But for him this is a necessary point to think about these matters. Being non-judgemental as the universe probably is, I'd say: he's on the right track to care about these segments in his life at the moment and doesn't let himself be "distracted" from other factors too much.

As far as his relation-ship-ideals go: Some mental shift might have occured or is still in the working for him, as fars as his love-ideals are concerned. This is all very mental/intellectual/ rather "philosphical" because his Jupiter-Juno-cj. is in his "mental" 9th house, and Uranus (ruled by "mental" Air-sign Aquarius) is just moving through this 9th house in his chart. Again: Somehow, he cannot help but re-consider the way he has lived out his love-relationships in the past. He might feel an urge to go bigger and better from now on, maybe "more real" in a way. Sure, his real life experience probably will infuse and influence this thinking-process inside of him. He migh not feel satisfied with the ways it has been - and crave for more or for something different. But again: This is a more or less internal process, some learning curve, that would have happened for him at this time of life anyway - because this transit is sending him some tasks, that he cannot avoid, anyway. It does not speak about very practical new experiences he is making with "flesh and bones" (like "having sex with someone else" or sth.) I cannot tell how he deals with these new awakened ideas and longings. I get the feeling: It is more a thinking process for him, at this stage. And since Uranus will return to his Jupiter-Juno-cj. for a while ... I do not see any "stable love life" for him over the next six months or so... rather some confusion and "no roots" he'll have in these regards, right now.

Actually, I am sorry for the feeling this might provoke in you: Like - you cannot do anything against it. But this also makes you freem from some "responsibility" - again: He might be about to change his mind about several things in his life currently - involving his profession and his love life. But this not your "fault" - neither can anymone prevent this!!!

And, once more: Some major (!) shift in your very own perceptions of the ideal partner and kind of relationship will come to you soon, as well! You'll have tr. Uranus crossing your DSC and entering your 7th house in a few years time - and you will probably be surprised then and wonder why you had such different perceptions a while ago (that would be: today.)

To be honest: I get the feeling that no one would be very happy to be his girlfriend right now. It seems that he just does not have the capacities to care for other people a lot, these days. He has got a lot of "homework" to do in his life (and real work in his job life) right now. It is a phase of renewal for him - not much place for being sensitive and strong for other people.

At the same time, it might be the final phase of a testing period for yourself. It might seem unfair to you, and very hurting. But I'd like you to read again what I've written in your original-thread. The news is: This will pass. I tried to show you some of the "lights at the end of the tunnel". They will surely come, one can see them in your chart already. And I want you to believe in them - accept this time as ahorrible, awful one - a time that you can understand and talk about later - and then pass on the personal wisdom you gained from that.

Whatever might happen between that guy and you (really: no one can tell for sure!): This is a time that provides some heavy "work" - for you rather on the inside. (For him maybe more in day-to-day life). Each of you must deal with this work.

Since I don't care about that boy, since I am on your side, I plainly tell you: Don't count on him/this relationship too much. This is about you a great deal (your transits, for instance.) You are a brave, deep, loving and courageous woman, one can plainly see from your chart. My theory would be ... in the very longrun ... that guy wouldn't be able to keep up with you. That's the truth. Even if currently he seems to be the one who has "the upper hand". He is NOT the last love that you've ever met. URANUS will show you something else, even if it still takes some time until he'll do so - andy maybe until you're really ready to receive this (new) boost.

AGAIN: LOVE to you!
A.777

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sinderlou
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posted December 19, 2008 06:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
alverella---

Your reading has given me some peace....

I have been blaming myself for all of this. and from your reading (pls correct if i am wrong) you are saying this was meant to be. almost like any woman that was with him in this moment in time would not be with him now because he does not have the capacity right now.....is that right

you are saying that this is almost karmic? in a way....like we were destined to be togehter and go thru this pain for a reason.....

yes, you are right ....i have always been strong and a giving person......on the money....this expereince has brought me down to the ground though,,,,it is very hard and i have never experience a broken heart....

i just wonder if he thinks about me,,,,,,i hve not heard from him......

so i should move on.......wash my hands of this relationship..........but why do i feel such a strong pull....like there is almost an underlying connection that is still here....is this in my mind? maybe i have gone crazy and just dont realize it.....

is there a mention anywhere that this is on a deep soul level......because i feel that....maybe it was me all along that felt it and not him....i am not sure.....but i need to evacuate this feeling somehow.....

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sinderlou
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posted December 19, 2008 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
i truely feel like i want to die.....this is so painful....more than i am able to bear.....i cry every day and night and cannot hardly function...is there anything in the chart that says how long this will be...i am so upset and it has been almost 2 months....i just take sleeping pills and try to sleep as much as i can to avoid the thoughts...i block out memories...it is much too painful...

i have watched my father die
my mother died in my arms
my dog was killed in front of my house
i just buried my little brother this past valentines day
i lost a baby twice
i suffered from back surgery and was in a body cast for a year
my first fiance was killed in an accident

and i am in more tremendous pain over this experience............than all of the above.....i feel like god is punishing me

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venusmars
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posted December 19, 2008 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for venusmars     Edit/Delete Message
Sinderlou you touched my heart,I hope you feel all right very very soon

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sinderlou
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posted December 19, 2008 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sinderlou     Edit/Delete Message
venusmars

it is nice to know there are kind souls in the world like u to take that time as averaella has for me....thank u for your words

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alvarella777
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posted December 19, 2008 08:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for alvarella777     Edit/Delete Message
Sinderlou,

nothing is "predestined" in it's final, real outcome - it's all up to us, ourselves, really: "what we make of it". But of course, being into astrology and taking it serious, this means: There's "good" or "bad timing" for decisions and also for relationships. We can always try to "fight the weather", but we won't succeed with this, obviously. So, best what we can do is to find a way to deal with it (deal with the planetary "weather"), to find a constructive way to make use of it - to read the signs of the times properly.

Most of all: We are not always responsible for what is happening in other people's lifes. Believe me: I know too well avout these painstaking thoughts: What did I do wrong and which let our relationship fail? What should I have made better? What if, what when ... etc. It is healthy and good to think about the part oneself was playing in a relationship. Not everything is the other person' fault! But also: Not eveyrthing is your fault, too! "It takes two to Tango" - and if one person decides to drop the dance ... sometimes we just have to let them go - be it for a while ... be it forever. I KNOW how unsatisfying and painful it can be, when there was no "decent goodbye", when it all ended "just like that" and one cannot stop asking him/herself: BUT WHY??? (I've exeprienced this myself - I was about to leave my country to start a life with my long-distance love, he had begged me to do so - only to let it all end or: being so mean, finally that I had no choice to end it myself ... just six weeks before my official move was scheduled, I already had a new job in his country, I had to cancel that too.... And I NEVER got an explanation for this... Why he suddenly had changed his mind! Maybe another woman? Maybe something that had "turned him off"...? **** like that happens. It is desrespectful and really hard to swallow - I am just telling you this to let you know: Such nasty things have to be "learned" and swallowed by many of us. It is not that you are "punished" for anything - please stop these thoughts!)

Best cure for the moment: Try to look at the here&now and try to anticipate a more positive future soon to come - because it will come. Let's look at yourself:

Tr. Saturn will still provide some tests for you over the next year, and you will have to re-work a lot of internal stuff - but what a strong supporter Saturn can be... he'll stabilize your idealism in March, supporting a more positive outlook ... still will have a tight/strict hand, a number of "tests of strength and will" - but in a year's time, late 2009 he will stand in sextile to you Juno - giving all matters related to partnerships/relationships a nice stable base, a new "substance" - be it a real, existing relationship then - or your own perception/ideas and wishes concerning relationships. You will see much much clearer and feel 1000% more self-secure in this field at the end of next year, to the latest.

Tr. Uranus will keep ask you questions and give you new "nuts to crack" over the next year, wants you to research your own personality a lot - he will make you feel "insecure" from time to time - but in summer 2010 (to the very latest) he will trine your Juno as well - refreshing your relationship-life, infuse with new,unforeseen fresh air, making this a playful and wonderfulliy inspiring area of your life.

Tr. Neptune will be in your 5th house of playfulness, romance etc for another few years - making you very (extremely) idealistic and soft and dreamy there ... but again, in about a year's time he'll conjunct with your Saturn for a while - and will bring a dose of (healthy and constructive) realism to all of that. Your idealism will be grounded, at the same time your own obstacles/fears will be softened - time to make something "real", to tackle something of real, basic "value" then. Soon after that Neptune will trine your Part of Fortune - so 2010 and 2011 might be very strong years in the love department for you!

The great "healer" Chiron is currently squaring your Neptune, nastily shattering your dreams - but it will sextile (support) your lucky Jupiter next year, during the whole of the year - "healing" instead of wounding. Really: All 2009 long, starting in March.

And, finally some RARE transiting aspect - the best of them all, haha! - something I am waiting for myself (but for me, it won't come before 2010!!!): You're one of the lucky persons to experience tr. Pluto trining your Venus - giving your love-life ans love capacities a strong boost, an energy-infusion! Very promising! Like ... a "positive collapse" - you being in the leading role. (Since Pluto is a slow moving planet, not many people evere experience that transit in theier lifetime, or: not in the adequate age, but in childhood or aged 85 or so... So: You may feel privileged in that regard - really a very positive love-renewal, according to the books - you OWN love feelings and ways of loving, your tastes and values and all) You'll feel that all of 2009, peak-times in March-May, and then at the end of the year again.

So: Plunge in your hurt - you certainly have to, now. Be open and sensitive to all that you feel. And dare to look into the face of your own pain - because over the next year you'll recover in several areas - only to have changed then - and then be prepared for the much, much better time arriving in 2010/2011.

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posted December 28, 2008 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
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