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CHRIS
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posted December 04, 2001 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
I ask anyone for more insight because this chart drives me crazy, everyting seems so important that I don t know were to start, this girl has so many planets in th 1 house and so many planets in the "Gauguelin" zone which it makes it so complicated:
18 april 1990 , 3AM Mechelen.
Thanks
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Randall
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posted December 05, 2001 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Lyndel isn't currently pulling charts, so I moved this thread to Soul Unions.

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Morning Storm
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posted December 06, 2001 09:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Chris,

What are you trying to do with her chart? Are you doing a simple analysis? Are you looking for something specific? Is her time of birth exactly 3 am? A cluster of planets in a specific house, just gives that house emphasis. Since it's her first house, they will affect her appearance and personality. If there's anything specific you want me to look at, let me know.

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the eyes-into-eyes, like burning embers, were enough
we did not again need words
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CHRIS
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posted December 06, 2001 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Morning Storm,
Thank you for your reply, the time is 3 AM.
A simpel analyse is ok, I dont know how to handel the many planets in the 1 house, I would say it gives her a complex personality and also the planets close to the IC MC. I know that is also important but everyting seems so very important that I dont know how important, I think Saturn has a major importance; because it is conj. the moon in the first house, also her sun squares Saturn, so perhaps she will have some problems with authorities, I know she has a good relation with the father, but she is always fithting with her 2 younger sisters.
Any insight is more then welcome.
CHRIS

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Morning Storm
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posted December 18, 2001 08:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Chris,

She IS a complex person. I understand her well, my oldest daughter has the same thing--even the Cappy rising. She has a lot of energy and needs to learn how to control it. Uranus, Neptune, Moon, Saturn, Pluto and Chiron are all strong planets in her chart. Give them extra emphasis. They all affect her and you will see Uranus, Neptune, Moon and Saturn characteristics show up in her personality traits. Give her a lot of love and positive reinforcement. She sometimes acts out because of lack of self-esteem. This may not show, because she may appear confident, but deep down inside, she's not. She's a fireball, but she's a softy, too. She can be very serious, especially about what she feels. She needs a lot of freedom and will thrive in an environment that allows it. That doesn't mean she doesn't need limits and boundaries, just that she needs to be allowed to think and make decisions for herself. She may need space to deal with things on some occasions and a tight hug at others. Teach her to trust her instincts--they are strong and they are good.

Let me know if you need anymore help.

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somehow, never again needing to speak
the eyes-into-eyes, like burning embers, were enough
we did not again need words
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Morning Storm
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posted February 15, 2002 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Chris,

I remember doing this chart and wasn't sure if you ever saw my reply, so I thought I'd bring it back up. Then I realized, this probably isn't the child you were talking about on FFA. If you want to give me Nick's birth data, I'll take a look at his chart today and make it top priority, to see if there's anything that may help with your situation.

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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CHRIS
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posted February 15, 2002 01:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Morning Storm,
Thank you so much!!!!!!
Nick : 5 november 1991 17h35 Duffel.
That is 5h35 in the afternoon.

Thanks again your are a real angel.

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Morning Storm
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posted February 16, 2002 02:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Chris,

Sorry it took so long to get to this, today, it's been quite a long day....

Okay, the first thing that popped out at me, is the huge stellium transiting his house of public life. That's why all this is coming out, now, especially since one of those planets is Uranus--and it's quincunxing his Venus, which is in his house of fun and games. That sure will put a damper on them. And unfortunately, it's going to get worse, before it gets better. Expect some hard hits mid March. One of the transits, that's really harsh on him that will get worse, is Mars in his 12th--house of institutions. When Uranus exactly quincunxes his Venus, Mars will exactly oppose his Sun, then Mars, then Pluto--whack, whack, whack. All three of them are icky. The Mars oppose Pluto is the most violent one, although all of them are violent. Oh **** , if they use some of those treatments I have seen in mental health facilities on that child, I may get sick. Make sure to remind us to send tons and tons of white light and sweet thoughts to your boy BEFORE those transits hit. You can't even imagine how much good it will do. Let me tell you a quick story that will amaze you. My son's best friend, Mike had a rare disease that was life threatening and they didn't expect him to live through his high school years. I posted part of his story and most importantly his birth data on a forum at the Official LG site, and asked people to send white light. At the time, he was the size of my oldest daughter, who is 5 1/2 years younger than him, and she is very tiny for her age. In US sizes, she only wears a size 8, and she's 10 years old. On average, kids her age where size 12. Well, I kept the thread going and kept it going for a long period of time. Let me tell you of Mike's progress in the last YEAR! He's healthier than he's ever been! He's taller than me! My daughter is about a foot shorter than me, so he's grown well over a foot in the last year! He's now expected to live to mid adulthood. Now, given the path he was on, before, I have serious doubts that he made those kind of improvements without the Love, white light, well wishes, kind thoughts and prayers of so many Knowflakes. We helped one child, we can help another. Kids are innocent and so wonderful. I have a soft spot for them, big time, and it breaks my heart to see kids going through hardships, because they don't understand they don't have to.

Okay, dial modems SUCK and I need to break this message up into two parts. At least I learned from my mistake last night and saved this message!

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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Morning Storm
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posted February 16, 2002 02:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Here's the rest of the message....

Okay, back to the transits....they aren't really helping or hurting him if you take it to court. (I should probably check your husband's transits for that issue.) Chiron is transiting his 8th house, forcing him to deal with deep issues--and these ARE issues not just from his past life, but many other liVes. There are actually several things going on with the transits and his natal chart to show that. He may be taking it better than all of you, since Jupiter is helping him out with his emotions. Saturn is helping him in some ways and not in others. It'll advance just enough to clobber him in March, when he's taking all the other hits, simultaneously. It'll quincunx his Sun/Mars conjunction found in his house of health and also quincunx his Uranus--which is in his house of law and education. I know most astrologers don't use the quincunx, but I don't understand how they can ignore a major aspect. It's a bit like the conjunction with its energy. Saturn will also square his Jupiter next month. I'm so sorry, I wish I had better news for you. Maybe that's why I had to wait until now, to do this, when I could handle it. My Higher S-ELF always protects me when I'm drained, and I give my all to every kid I can possibly help. The one thing I find very unfortunate is all the personal planet transits are going to square his Mercury, within the next month, and that's going to stifle his communication. Look, if he says something, look deep in his eyes and K-NOW what he's saying to you. I just looked for your birth data on my computer, to see if you have any Neptune aspects with Nick, but I don't have your birth data. That's okay, I'll be right here for you and Nick through every step of this. All you have to do is ask for an update on the transits or ask a question, and it'll be priority over any question on my forum.

I have a lot to say about his natal chart, but I'm really drained. I'll talk about it tomorrow. Other astrologers are very welcome to jump in and help Nick and Chris, too!! We should all give what we can to help him, just like so many of us did for Mike.

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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CHRIS
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posted February 16, 2002 09:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Morning Storm
Again thanks so much for your carrying

Now, I looked to his transits, but just very quikcly , because the past few days were one nightmerry.
Normally Nick supposed to be in the hospital this monday. We new this from the child himself on wednesday en the moter wrote it to in a book also saying that other people are going to inform us about the whole thing.(the children are here because it is holiday till monday)
Now for one reason or another, somthing went wrong and there is a delay.
We informed our lawer and we will have to go to the court on thusday : we will ask more delay and asking that the children are going to live with us . We wont get that but then there will be a investigation.And that is the most important thing.
But.... if you look to the chart of the mother and her transits.... dont fall out of your chair!!!!! There is going to be a very big war, she is a most violent woman and with Pluto conj. her Mars.... I am not easly scared but i must say; I am scared.
Her : 5 october 1967 23h30 (evening)
I am going to study the transits and get later back.
Thank you so much

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CHRIS
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posted February 16, 2002 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
The place of birth is: LIER

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Morning Storm
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posted February 19, 2002 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Chris,

Sorry, I reached the point where I needed a break and had to take one. When I get like that, I take a break!

I looked at Nick's mom's chart with the transits, and she has a lot of stuff going on. Uranus is transiting her 8th house, and that's unexpected deep issues. That transit alone can put your life into a tailspin when planets are activated. That Pluto conjunct Mars is UGLY, but at least it's not touching off other planets at the same time. But I don't want to be around when the Moon is in Gemini, Virgo, Pisces or Sag! The really nasty part of it, is it's in her house of children. That makes me feel even more for Nick. She needs to be careful, or this whole thing could make her physically ill. There are transits that show this, so she needs to be extra careful. She has Mars transiting her house of public life, so maybe she'll fight for her son in public way, especially since it's trining her Mars in the 5th. The transits aren't wonderful for legal action for her right now, but not really awful either--more unexpected in the outcome.

That's cool about the delay! If you go to court on Thursday, the Moon will be in Nick's 1st house squaring his Venus. He may be nervous and emotional, but that's expected. The Sun and Venus have moved into his 11th house, so maybe something humanitarian in nature will happen. Aquarius rules social work, so a social worker he likes may be assigned to him, or something in that area may happen. Since his house has Aqua and Pisces, this is a good time to teach him anything spiritual in nature. Does he know how to put white, protection bubbles around himself? That would be a good start if he doesn't. There's a book for children by Mary Summer Rain called Mountains, Meadows and Moonbeams or something like that, which is GREAT for kids. It's what I first gave to my girls to teach them spirituality. You can probably order it at Barnes and Nobles on-line, if you don't have it in the bookstore there.

Well, let me know how it goes! Good luck to you, Nick and your family!

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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CHRIS
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posted February 19, 2002 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Morning Storm
There is another delay, we are going to court on monday 25/2.
You dont have to follow "this case" if you dont want to, I mean ,take your time and I am not asking you to put extra time on this issue, I know you are a very sweet person and very busy and I do appreciate you so much!!!!!
I hope you understand my bad Englisch.
I just keep you informed, and I do whish everything will be the best for the child, that is my only concern.
I love you very very much.
CHRIS

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YIVY
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posted February 19, 2002 10:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
GREAT GOD/DESS! Aurial from what I am reading...this has to be a NUMBER ONE PRIORTY WHITE LITE CALL!!!!!!!

Everyone needs to really concentrate HARD and send STRONG WHITE LITE to protect him, and lots of PINK so that can personaly intervene in this situation.

I don't know how, but if for some reason we are hearing this, I think it is a direct call from his HIGHER S-ELF to set us in action to help override his chart aspects. If it were just another lesson, we would not be involved.

CHRIS...I need a location to send the LITE. It helps me focus better.
BUt, in the meantime, I'll just trust my HIGHER S-ELF to direct it where needed.

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Spiritua
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posted February 19, 2002 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message

Healing angels, I call upon you to give healing WHITE lite to whomever needs it and healing PINK lite to whomever needs it.

You can do it! I have faith in you!!

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Morning Storm
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posted February 21, 2002 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Chris,

I don't mind the extra work to help your son. It's top priority, and all the other questions will just have to wait. If their relationships are worth the time for me to do them, they'll still be in the relationship by the time I get to the question. If not, well then it saved me some time and work. Kids come first, especially kids who need the help of all of us. I have Jupiter in Cancer in my 5th, involved in two, tight Grand Trines and also two, tight Yods (not the focal point, but the softer energy), if that helps you understand where I'm coming from. If not, it means I think kids are the greatest! I'm in full agreement with YIVY. He's asking us for help and I for one will do what I can to help him.

BTW, I have no problems with your English.

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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CHRIS
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posted February 21, 2002 03:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
YIVY,if you mean the place where he lives : it is Lier.
love to you all!!!!!!!

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CHRIS
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posted February 22, 2002 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
Dear all,
It is going to be a long strugle.
The mother took a lawer and the case will be delayed for one week, so we dont have to go to court on monday.

Love to you all

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Morning Storm
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posted February 22, 2002 11:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Just let me know when you are going to court, and I'll check the transits.

(((Big hugs to you))) and lots of white light to Nick!

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
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Virgo Rising
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posted February 23, 2002 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo Rising     Edit/Delete Message
Count me in!! {{{hugs}}}

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Spiritua
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posted February 23, 2002 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Spiritua     Edit/Delete Message
{{{{{{{{hug, hug, hug, hug, hug, hug, hug}}}}}}}

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Morning Storm
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posted February 25, 2002 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
I was just thinking of Nick and wanted to send him (((big hugs))) this morning.

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We see things not as they are, but as we are: Love brings understanding. ~Anais Nin

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CHRIS
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posted March 01, 2002 03:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CHRIS     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you so much dear Angels,
The case is once more delayed to 11 march.
My little elves are com this weekend,I hope they are Ok.
I will keep you informed.

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YIVY
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posted March 01, 2002 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for YIVY     Edit/Delete Message
CHRIS...thank you for the update

There certainly seems to be some 'other side' work going on with all these delayes going on. Let's hope it is for the best.

Let us know if anything new developes.

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Morning Storm
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posted March 04, 2002 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Chris,

Well, let's pray that the 11th sticks and the case happens that day! The Sun is on his side helping him in several ways. The Moon will be making him a bit emotional and deep issues he needs to resolve will be surfacing that day. So, the case will possibly help him with finding himsELF. The only aspect I really don't like is Mars oppose Moon--and Mars is in his 12th house, too, which makes this case more challenging. Well, at least it's only Mars and the other personal planets aren't there yet. Let's pray this case goes through before they get there! Anyway, try to help him keep his temper in check. This transit is one of confrontation, and since Mars is in the house of institutions, and his Moon is in his house of health, and they're opposing--he needs to balance them and use them for his best because we don't to see the um, negative possibilities of this aspect come about. I'm not even going to word what it is. Let's just send him white light to help him balance the energy. He may be having negative feelings about his Mom right now, but it'll pass, so tell your husband to be careful what he says, when Nick says anything to you about his Mom. Remember, kids Love their Moms unconditionally and always will, regardless of how maternal they are.

Big (((hugs))) for you and Nick!

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We see things not as they are, but as we are: Love brings understanding. ~Anais Nin

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