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Scorpia
Knowflake

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posted February 14, 2002 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpia     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Morning Storm I'm hoping you might be able to help me figure out Chiron in my chart. I have some pastlife/karma issues that I'm trying to heal and I think maybe some insight into Chiron would be very helpful. And is the Vertex important as well in determining pastlife or karma issues?

I was born on 11/9/71 at 11:02 a.m., Bronx, NY.

And could I please ask one more favor of you If and when you have some time, could you give me insight into my relationship with my fiance....he is wonderful in *a lot* of ways, and I he deserves the best from mysELF.

So far so good though - we just recently got engaged!!

He was born 10/6/75 at 9:00 a.m., Queens, New York.

Thanks, Morning Storm


-Scorpia

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gOOb
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posted February 15, 2002 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gOOb     Edit/Delete Message
hi scorpia,

i'm not an expert in this field, but i like to look at charts and could not resist yours. (sorry)

but i have looked at your numbers already on the universal code forum and wanted to see how they interact...........................

well, what we did discuss on there was that 29 was an important role for you and also number 11..... 29 is known as the heaviest karma of all, the spiritual test of faith in ones self...........

i always try to build a story from numbers of any person before i look at there charts, and use the charts secondary to confirm the path of the individual........ so with yourself we found 29 from the whole birthdate and your karmic path, and 9 as your personality........

on the 9 front for your persona, you have mercury, venus and jupiter in Sagitarius, to me these would give you the up front no nonsense 9 personality. sagitarius is outspoken at the best of times, but they dont hold back on their thoughts. this backs up your number 9.

on the 29 front it goes deeper, the karmic path of the soul test and discovering true faith in ones self and the universe.......
i have mentioned this on another thread but with this number 29 it usually shows up in the form of Saturn in aspect to Neptune, which suprise suprise your Saturn in Gemini opposes Neptune in Sagitarius and Neptune the spiritual planet falls into your 11th house of Universal understanding..........

Saturn this time around will teach you plenty, for the path you have chosen is educational in life....

Saturn opposes Mercury which will strengthen your thinking and will guide your thoughts in the right way, if you follow, its easier, if you do not follow Saturns wisdom the aspect can impede difficulties in your communication and thought process until its wisdom is learned and followed.

Saturn opposes Venus, guiding you in the correct way to love and use your finances. again the path is easier when the wisdom is followed.......dont follow the path and you could be on the end of difficult relationships and hard times financially..

Saturn square to Mars, the teaching of correct action, applying your knowledge correctly to the improvement of oneself, with Mars in Pisces you will be guided in a spiritual format, to keep on the path of spiritual knowledge and enlightenment.....

the biggest issue is the Saturn/Neptune aspect that involves your lifepath and karma, which relates to the number 29 in its path of learning. it is Saturns strength and input of wisdom that will help you grow, because Saturn is the Teacher with a capital "T"...

with so many planets above the horizon, your directness and forward thinking can benifit your challenge, however they also have the exact opposite power to hinder and hurt in order to learn, be careful not to be to abrupt and impatient with others..........

Saturn asks of you to be practical with your wisdom, find your true path and ground it to suit your needs, the path is wisdom and enlightenment...

when you feel that you wish you would never have opened your mouth in a situation, have grace and think deep because Saturns working for you to find the wisdom in why you shouldnt have.............

you do match your numbers through astrology too, its good to know that your already on the right path......

love gOOb

email me if you need to chat...............

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gOOb
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posted February 15, 2002 11:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gOOb     Edit/Delete Message
sorry scorp,

Chiron is placed in Aries in your 3rd house, Auriel will explain that, i havent the knowledge of Chiron........................

your Vertex is up in your 7th house in the sign of Leo at 20 degrees, as far as i am aware, the Vertex is important for Soul mate meetings and should be followed by transit of the planets through your chart, when it makes a perfect aspect to one of the moving planets (usually sun or venus) then it is meant to be a time of special meetings..... on relationship charts it indicates soul and past life relationships.......

hope Auriel tells you more........

gOOb

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Morning Storm
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From: Columbus, GA USA
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posted February 16, 2002 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you, gOOb, and please feel free to look at charts on my forum anytime! You did a great job! In fact, I encourage ALL astrologers who want to step in and look at charts. I may be the moderator, but I'm certainly not the only person who understands astrology! Plus, for the people who are learning, actually looking at charts is the best learning experience there is with astrology. And the help is especially appreciated right now, while I have one arm in a cast!

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
--Rumi

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gOOb
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posted February 16, 2002 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gOOb     Edit/Delete Message
Auriel,

thank you for your support, sometimes i just cant resist and i did need to know if Scorpia's chart matched her numbers........

thanks again

gOOb

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Morning Storm
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posted February 16, 2002 03:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
--Rumi

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Scorpia
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posted February 20, 2002 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpia     Edit/Delete Message

gOOb - I can not even begin to express my graditude. Where should I begin....

Thanks so much for your insight and intrepretation. Saturn seems to be key, which also seems to relate to my 29 karmic number. Maybe with the help of 'father' Saturn I am on the right path. Actually, if I care about nothing else in this life, I will always have my faith and spirit to constantly nourish and enlighten...all-ways have and all-ways will. Then it truly is this life's soul purpose, without any doubt. It's slightly unbelievable how numbers and charts match up to one's own sELF and chosen path in life.

But all along I seem to confuse and interchange Saturn's lessons with God/Higher SELF/the ME of ME/angels. I can never seem to tell them all apart - they all seem as One.

Spiritual testing and growth seems a very rewarding karmic lesson...I don't understand why it is known to be so "heavy" and such a difficult lesson to be learned. Maybe b/c it's the essential core of one's sELF that we all need to learn and grow at some point or another. Maybe it's just the 11 i'm still concerned about...but if karmic lessons in this life have mostly to do with Saturn's lessons and what he has to teach me, then I think i've been a good student. I love to learn and listen from every possible outlet - and finding this website sure wasn't by chance. I don't like imposing my views on people, but I definitely enjoy sharing thoughts and ideas about faith and 'what's this life for' type of stuff. I am ready for everything Saturn has to teach me!!!

I will admit though, it was kinda rough dealing with Saturn opposing Venus, as bad love relationships kinda went hand-in-hand with financial problems. But I have since learned from my mistakes and am sure never to repeat again

Engine engine number 9....that's me!!! Hard to hold back, of course only when I'm not off brooding and contemplating life's deepest darkest secrets in my own *head*...hence the nic.


And, dear sweet Auriel, I'm sending you lots of healing and white light so that you are feeling better soon and healing well. And I mean it, right now, as I write...and as you read (i hope).

Sc rpia

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Scorpia
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posted February 20, 2002 03:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpia     Edit/Delete Message

gOOb - I can not even begin to express my graditude. Where should I begin....

Thanks so much for your insight and intrepretation. Saturn seems to be key, which also seems to relate to my 29 karmic number. Maybe with the help of 'father' Saturn I am on the right path. Actually, if I care about nothing else in this life, I will always have my faith and spirit to constantly nourish and enlighten...all-ways have and all-ways will. Then it truly is this life's soul purpose, without any doubt. It's slightly unbelievable how numbers and charts match up to one's own sELF and chosen path in life.

But all along I seem to confuse and interchange Saturn's lessons with God/Higher SELF/the ME of ME/angels. I can never seem to tell them all apart - they all seem as One.

Spiritual testing and growth seems a very rewarding karmic lesson...I don't understand why it is known to be so "heavy" and such a difficult lesson to be learned. Maybe b/c it's the essential core of one's sELF that we all need to learn and grow at some point or another. Maybe it's just the 11 i'm still concerned about...but if karmic lessons in this life have mostly to do with Saturn's lessons and what he has to teach me, then I think i've been a good student. I love to learn and listen from every possible outlet - and finding this website sure wasn't by chance. I don't like imposing my views on people, but I definitely enjoy sharing thoughts and ideas about faith and 'what's this life for' type of stuff. I am ready for everything Saturn has to teach me!!!

I will admit though, it was kinda rough dealing with Saturn opposing Venus, as bad love relationships kinda went hand-in-hand with financial problems. But I have since learned from my mistakes and am sure never to repeat again

Engine engine number 9....that's me!!! Hard to hold back, of course only when I'm not off brooding and contemplating life's deepest darkest secrets in my own *head*...hence the nic.


And, dear sweet Auriel, I'm sending you lots of healing and white light so that you are feeling better soon and healing well. And I mean it, right now, as I write...and as you read (i hope).

Sc rpia

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Scorpia
Knowflake

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posted February 21, 2002 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpia     Edit/Delete Message

One additional tidbit Saturn was in retrograde at the time of my birth.

Would this have any kind of affect, either good or bad?

Scorpia

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Morning Storm
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posted February 21, 2002 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
It means you need to learn some patience! Look at all the aspects of your life that have to do with Saturn. Figure out (and really search your heart and Soul) all the barriers you have built against them, within yourself, and remove them. Gain control over them--slowly and patiently.

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
--Rumi

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Scorpia
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posted February 22, 2002 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpia     Edit/Delete Message

Morning Storm....you really did just speak ultimate truth.

Everything mentioned here already, all boils down to patience while learning everything Saturn needs to teach me in this lifetime. I have always known this about myself, but put it in the back of my mind while I recklessly try to speed up the pace of wisdom.

Thanks for the eye-opener again

Scorpia

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Morning Storm
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posted February 22, 2002 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Given that you're asking, you'll be all right.

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Your task is not to seek for love, but merely to seek and find all the barriers within yourself that you have built against it.
--Rumi

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Scorpia
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posted February 22, 2002 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Scorpia     Edit/Delete Message

Sc rpia

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gOOb
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posted February 23, 2002 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gOOb     Edit/Delete Message
Scorp,

no problem, it was more me saying thanks to you for allowing me to be nosy....


chat soon.........


gOOb

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Morning Storm
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posted March 05, 2002 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Bringing this back to the top for Ashish, since he also has Saturn Rx.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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Prince-o-Heaven
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From: New Delhi , India
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posted March 06, 2002 11:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Prince-o-Heaven     Edit/Delete Message
Hi to Auriel, GooB and Scorpia,
Im not an astrologer and I often have difficulty understanding astrology related gargon like names of planets and what they are supposed to symbolize. I only have a rough and basic knowledge of signs and thats just about it.

My details are as follows:

Ashish Samwill David
Date of bith: 5th March 1980
Time 03:56 AM
Place : New Delhi, India.

What is a Saturn RX supposed to signify? What are the implications of haveing a Saturn RX in one's chart? Are there ways to reverse or control it's negative effects?

Also are there others aspects about my chart that I should keep in mind? Could Goob and Auriel please tell me something more about my life as dipicted by my natal chart? Im really very curious to know.

Im usually quiet self-aware and know almost all weak and strong points about my personlaity, as I do think of myself to be very analytical and scrutinizing. I completely agree with what Auriel said about me needing more patience. Id like to know what all of you have to say about my natal chart. Thank you auriel for making and sending the chart to me, though I understood only the initial basic bit which elaborated on strong Earth (10) and Water(9) and could'nt make much sense of the sections titled 'the houses' and 'chart points'.

I would also appreciate if you guys would take a look at the thread 'pisces-acquarian' that discusses my relationship with my gf and a particular problem we've had for some time now and dont know how to solve. Id really appreciate your help and suggestions. Thanks very much.

Ashish

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Morning Storm
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posted March 07, 2002 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ashish,

To learn about the different signs and what they represent, read Sun Signs by Linda Goodman. To learn about astrology, read the Idiots Guide to Astrology. It may sound condescending, but I assure you, it's excellent for beginners. It was my first book. As for Saturn Rx, I have nothing to add to what I already stated. It's all you need to know briefly stated. I'm one of those people that cuts through fluff and goes straight to the point. If you want to read more about it, type in Saturn Rx in your browser, or you could buy a book about Rx planets, but once you remove all the fluff, it'll say the same thing, just in more words. It would also be much faster and easier to look up or buy than me typing it up with one hand. As for the Houses--your chart is separated into 12 houses and those are the signs on each house cusp. It gives you a brief description of how that affects YOU. The Chart Points are where the planets fall in the houses and also the aspects in your chart. You'll understand more once you read a beginning book on astrology.

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