posted June 08, 2002 01:58 PM         

Morning Storm is away for the month of June but if you want to post both your birth details (day,month,year,place & time) then I'll take a look at your charts for you to see if we can shead some light onto your situation

Astrology aside though.....you can't really get someone to do something that they don't want to or are not ready to do.
Being a Libra, your boyfriend will not find decision making easy! So it may take him some time as he'll be weighing up all things...probably over and over again in his mind!

I obviously don't know your full situation but I would say try to get on with your life, keep yourself busy, pamper yourself and have some fun with your girlfriends. That way, you'll start to feel better and your boyfriend won't feel under pressure to make a fast decision. Ironically enough that just may make him make one

posted June 08, 2002 06:01 PM         

-Starlover

posted June 08, 2002 06:43 PM         

It's late here now and I'm going to bed (I'm in England) so I'll take a look at your charts tomorrow.

In the meantime, have you any idea of your boyfriends time of birth? It's not possible to run an accurate chart without it. I can use 12 noon as a default time but like I say it wouldn't give us an accurate chart. We need to establish his ascendant and that's only possible with an accurate time of birth.

Just one other thing. When exactly did he move out? I'll take a look at the transits for that day and see what was happening.

posted June 09, 2002 04:41 AM         

Now on May 11th you had Mercury, Saturn, Node, Mars & Venus ALL transiting your 4th house. The 4th house = home so something was going to happen there!

OK now let's see if we can figure out what.

Taking a 12 noon birth time for your boyfriend. On May 11th he had Mercury, Saturn, Node, Mars & Venus all transiting his 6th house. Now 6th house = work & health.

I don't mean to be intrusive by asking this -I'm trying to see if we've got him in the right place. So, as he left at 11:30pm - that being late at night, I am guessing that you had a row. Is he having work or health issues at the moment? Was that what the row was about?

I'll take a look at your synastry chart later today as I'm meeting a girlfriend for lunch in a little while.

posted June 09, 2002 11:19 AM         

OK so a row must be an English term.....
I meant argument.

Ok so if he's having work issues we'll stick with the 12 noon time.

Did his work stuff have anything to do with your argument? I'm still assuming you had one re him leaving so late at night?
Love
Sue

posted June 09, 2002 02:41 PM         

!!! WELCOME !!!

I don't know what the stars might have to say about your situation with Mr. Libra, but stars/planets aside, if it were me, until he DID *come home* he wouldn't be enjoying me *on weekends* ! That's kinda like him having the cake and eating it too - leaving only the crumbs for yOu ...just my ONION

posted June 09, 2002 03:13 PM         

First of all I would have to say that I agree with Caileah.....don't let him have his cake and eat it.

So back to astrology.....
He currently has Pluto transiting his 12th house so a lot of inner changes going on there. Pluto is forcing him to deal with problems that he may have "swept under the carpet".
PLUS
Mars, Jupiter & Venus are transiting his 7th (relationship house)
Jupiter should be making him feel good about his relationships BUT it can also make him want to let things just drift. Venus there will mean that the relationship is very much on his mind. Mars may be making him a "bit to aggressive/forceful" towards it.
He may be having money problems. Uranus & Neptune are transiting his 2nd house (money & values). Neptune can delude us and so he make not be thinking clearing there plus Uranus can bring about erractic changes.

Looking at his natal chart...he has a lot of Uranian aspects......
Uranus sq Sun
Gives independence and the desire to do things "differently". When negative (which a square is), it can make you an eccentric who delights in shocking people, or just plain crazy.

Uranus sextile Moon
People with stressful aspects between the Moon and Uranus have a fear of abandonment and tend to be hysterics. The Moon shows, in any horoscope, relationships with women in general, particularly the mother. The stressful aspects (0, 90, and 180 degrees, the conjunction, square, and opposition) frequently mean that the mother’s schedule was erratic during the first few years of the person’s life, usually because the mother herself was erratic. As a result, the child, to survive, cuts off, says "I don’t need her". Everything is fine until they grow up and start dating. When they really like someone, up comes the feeling: "I need you", and that’s when they run. If they can’t run, they do or say something to make the other person run. There is also a tendency to be attracted to someone who is unavailable (married or out of town). In fact, the more unavailable the love interest, the greater the attraction. These traits are usually more noticeable in a women. A man will simply be a "love them and leave them" type, or attract hysterical women as lovers. Personally, I have never seen this interpretation miss. The hit rate is 100%. The harmonious aspects simply give an attraction to the new and unusual, although, even here, there may be flashes of the hysterical syndrome.
Note: He has a positive aspect (sextile)

Uranus trine Venus
Will attract strange and bizarre lovers, but the stressful aspects go well beyond that. Uranus wants independence, freedom. If a relationship becomes too "normal", it breaks. And Uranus doesn’t just leave. It suddenly ejects. Elizabeth Taylor has Venus an Uranus in conjunction in Aries. That sign placement only makes this combination more explosive and unstable. These stressful aspects between Venus and Uranus are one of the combinations that can cause the blood sugar to fluctuate, and tends towards hypoglycemia. The harmonious aspects usually manage to be unusual and avant garde without being so inconstant.
He has a positive aspect...trine)

Uranus opposed Mars
Tends to be accident prone because it inclines to taking risks. This is especially true of the stressful aspects. Mars is the planet of action and energy. Uranus is the planet of sudden and unexpected change. Unless other factors in the horoscope pull you in the opposite direction, you will be rebellious and defiant of authority. The stressful aspects also shorten the temper. Watch out if you have the conjunction, square, or opposition of these two. The temper can go like a shot. Uranus aspects tend towards nervous tension. In this case, the outlet is direct action. When fighting, you incline to pull unexpected stunts that will either confuse the hell out of your opponent and lead to victory, or totally backfire and lead to quick defeat. The harmonious aspects are a little more moderate, but any aspect between these two planets make a person impatient and give an above average interest in machinery and hi-tech devices.
(He has a negative aspect...oppostion)

Uranus conjunct Jupiter
Jupiter shows our ability to grasp general principles, and so it can affect the philosophy we live by. Uranus is the planet of the unusual and the shocking. People with this placement will be attracted to ideas and systems of thought that are at odds with the prevailing views of their society. The ones with the harmonious aspects (sextile and trine) will tend to get away with it and be regarded as avant garde. Those with the square and opposition won’t. They will be regarded as eccentric, at best, and dangerous cranks at worst.

Neptune sq Uranus
Any aspect between these two will stay around for a few years and can affect a whole generation. Neptune rules the ideals, dreams, and illusions of the entire generation into which we are born. When there is any aspect with Uranus, planet of "I’m going to change everything", well, that’s not going to be a conservative generation. Uranus wants freedom and independence, and those ideals will tend to be strong, for better or worse.

Uranus sq MC
Is better off being self-employed, or, at least, having a boss who leaves one alone. Uranian careers include anything dealing with electricity or high tech (electrical engineer, workers in TV or radio, computers, programmers, etc.). Actors with this aspect tend to succeed better in TV than the movies. The boss may be a very independent or eccentric type, a crazy genius, or even just plain crazy. At least one parent will also be that way. Independent, eccentric, insane. There will tend to have been a greater than normal number of sudden incidents in the childhood, such as many sudden moves, etc.

I just copied and pasted these (for speed...as it's Sunday) so that you can hopefully understand his behaviour.
Well as far as Uranus influences can be understood......they are very unpredictable.

I'm going to take a look at your chart comparisions but it may be tomorrow by the time I get back to you as it takes time.
Love
Sue

posted June 09, 2002 05:20 PM         

Moon trine Moon
You know exactly how to interpret each and should see how each other feel in order to understand each other.

Sun trine Mercury
You should have a good understanding between you and intellectual interests in common, the same type of curiosity. You're really made to go well together and to appreciate each other.

Moon sextile Venus
You get on together very well, on both an intellectual and emotional level. You probably love to be together and appreciate each other's company.

Sun trine Venus
It's an excellent aspect You go really well together, love each other, and feel good, happy and radiant in each other's company.

Mercury conjunct Neptune
You should have a good spiritual understanding.

Moon trine Mars
Great physical passion but with every passion of this type, there are storms in the air

Moon sextile Jupiter
You go well together, understand and have confidence in each other, develop side-by-side in the same way, and should have many joint projects.

Mercury sextile Mars
You understand each other, like to discuss things with each other and take joint initiatives. Great intellectual understanding.

Sun trine Saturn
As a couple you should be very stable and should be able to lead your lives together quietly, with friendship slowly replacing love. Saturn will dominate the Sun - as is only natural - but the Sun might find this difficult to accept. In any case, as the Sun likes to feel secure, Saturn is a perfect partner.
(By the way...you have this both ways...Your Saturn trines his Sun and his Saturn trines your Sun)

Moon sextile Uranus
You're very attracted to each other and your life together that will be far from monotonous, sometimes quite out of the ordinary, thanks to Uranus. A life certainly full of surprises and not always agreeable for one of the two.

Saturn conjunct Neptune
This is a very favorable union. Neptune brings dreams to Saturn, who lacks them, and Saturn brings common sense to Neptune, who is totally without it.

Saturn sextile Pluto
Very favorable union.

Saturn trine Neptune
Very good union. Neptune brings dreams to Saturn, who lacks them, and Saturn brings common sense to Neptune, who is totally without it.

Saturn opposed Pluto
Not a good aspect....your relationship will be difficult and sometimes destructive

Every relationship needs a combination of good/difficult aspects so don't worry about the last one. All good can be a problem.
So all in all you have a lot of great aspects together. It all depends on how each of you "approach" relationships and no matter how good your synastry aspects are what you both want as individuals will affect that.

Give him time but don't let him have his cake and eat it

I'll give you an example.....
Two friends of mine (I've know them now for 15 years). They had been living together for 2 years. She then said to him "Marry me or I'm off!!"
Drastic ......but as she said to me "If he can't make a decision now after 2 years then I will leave so that I can meet someone else who will"
Well....it's a happy ending cos he married her and they are still happily married 13 years later.
Sue

PS: I'm not saying you should give him an ultimatum...only you will know when or if you want that some time in the future. But also bear in mind if you do issue an ultimatum you have to prepared for him to say no. My friend was at that point in her life where she was prepared to accept a no and leave even though she loved him.

posted June 09, 2002 07:35 PM         

that definition of uranus square the sun is the best one I've ever heard! would you mind telling me where, who it is from? The others sound good too but that one I know so well from personal experience.

posted June 10, 2002 08:01 AM         

Sorry I can't remember where I got it from. It was stuff I'd saved on my computer a while ago.

posted June 10, 2002 08:10 AM         

"How do you make a Libra comfortable?"

Well you know that Libra's have trouble making decisions.........which can frustrate the rest of us...but it's their job

Listen to your "Higher Self" it will give you all the answers you need. From what you say, I think you know already how to deal with this situation.

For what it's worth......I would briefly bring up the "argument issue" and the reasons he's left. Not to discuss them but to set a time limit on when this situation needs to be sorted out by. Obviously be realistic and not too pushy with your time limit but let him know (in a nice way) that you are not prepared to let things just drift along like this.
Then I wouldn't discuss or mention it at all until the agreed "deadline date".
But you have to be prepared to "deal" with his answer.

Good luck
Love
Sue

posted June 10, 2002 08:14 AM         

I suppose, if as you said, you have a hard time "letting go" Libra could balk at that - it would upset the *balance* ... That said, I have to admit I was guilty of the same in my life, and one of the nicest things I ever did for mysElf was to learn to *let go* ...

Bottom line tho, I guess, is that he apparantly has conditions - so it's up to you to decide if you can live with them, whatever they are. Maybe it won't be terrible and you both win.