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Birdsong
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posted June 21, 2002 12:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Birdsong     Edit/Delete Message
Hey lady....

I know 'Rel is on vacation...so since you are one of the pinch hitters..... ..

My friend...also named Sue!...has a daughter named Jamie.

Jamie has been blowing the lid off the house...and she is flipping out her parents.

I've know this kid for years...she's flipping me out too!

I popped her chart up...and Good Lord...the poor thing!!!!

saturn opp saturn
Pluto opp Chiron
saturn conjunct Moon
and squaring her Mars.

I want to be able to help her Mom the best I can....and right away I knew I was too emotionally involved...this kids chart made my heart pound!

Could you have a look and see how you feel?

Jaime is:

2/8/87
3:48 am
Kalamazoo Michigan

Sagg asc...and Gemini moon!!! aaaaaiiiiiieeeeee! poor thing...NN is right on her Chiron too...on the heels of Saturn there...

When you have time....I'd sure appreciate it.

Dani

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Randall
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posted June 21, 2002 09:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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Cat
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posted June 21, 2002 01:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Dani

How's things today???

Hmmpfff England lost to Brazil today..major bummer
So England's depressed...but we'll get over it

I'll take a look later tonight.
Love
Sue

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Birdsong
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posted June 21, 2002 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Birdsong     Edit/Delete Message
oh!...I hadn't heard yet how England had done....USA lost to Germany today...(pppst!...sssshhh...don't tell anyone...but I am glad we lost. )

Thanks for taking a look at Jaime for me.....I'm awfully worried about her.....

Dani

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Cat
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posted June 21, 2002 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Dani (insert smile)

You're glad they lost
But I guess America's more into American football??

Ok I just printed off Jamie's chart via astro.com
Just going to eat and I'll take a look after that. BUT at a 2 second glance what really jumped out at me is...she has Pluto AND Chiron transiting her 1st house. Big changes and eventual healing hey??
PLUS she has Uranus transiting her 3rd....maybe that's why she's freaking everyone out..her communication is going to be kind of erractic
Neptune transiting her 2nd may be "clouding her thoughts" as far as values go.

So I'd say she's kind of "lost the plot" but
1) She doesn't currently see that and 2) She's can't communicate how she really feels as she probably "deep down" doesn't even know herself. THEN she also has Saturn (my fav planet...NOT!!) transiting her 7th.......
really forcing relationship issues into the forefront. That planet will not stop digging until all the "crap" is out!!!

OK just some quick thoughts. Going to eat or my dinner will be "burnt to a cinder"

Love
Sue (Dang ran out of smilies...like you I always hate that restriction..lol)

PS: They keep showing "highlights" of the England vs Brazil game on TV and we still lose Talk about rubbing salt in the wound......ok already...we know we lost

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Cat
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posted June 21, 2002 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Another quick thought.....

Dinner now burning

Most of her planets (natal chart) are below the horizon.....Think that makes her "an innie" and not "an outie" if you get my drift....

Plus she has Saturn in her first (using Koch I have that) and that can make you hard on yourself. her's is in saggi though and mines Libra so I'll give that some thought...
Uranus in saggi in the 1st lol

Sue

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Birdsong
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posted June 22, 2002 01:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Birdsong     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue!!!!

How'd the dinner turn out? I let Mark cook tonight...bless him.

As for the soccer...it's purely a selfish reason...soccer has hurt the rollerskating industry nationwide.

Now, kids don't seem to know how to play unless they have uniforms...a coach...and a scheduled practice...and the soccer parents here are mannerless boobs living their lives vicariously thru their kids....OH! did I say that out loud? ...well of course not ALL of them....hehehehehehe

I guess you just notice the loud ones.

How much fun is it for a kid to have someone elses parent screaming at you to do better?...It just bugs me......

The USA hasn't earned it yet. In spirit. Period.

And I like baseball.

About Jamie...I noticed the horizons right away too...and I think the nasty situation with her father (he's very controlling) would only further her introversion...all the makings for bad decisions when you are an angry kid.

She has Pluto sq Neptune too...all with those Saturn hits.

Whats the orb for the NN transiting her Chiron?...thats right there too...at 2*....

The Pluto/saturn opp really hit her hard didn't it? And it set the stage for all thats going on now.....

Now there's another eclipse monday...do you know the degree of it?..Randall? Do you know?.....is it going to be on top of Pluto in sag?....with all that right on her asc....that could be a rough stretch too....

I just realized that not only does my business have the same asc and descendant...I think the USA does too!!!!!!!....ooooooooooooooooooo

oi veh a little knowledge can be a dangerous thing!......

Ok...I have to go think about that......

We were going to the bank on monday to rearrange finances...I wonder if thats a good idea or not........

TOO MUCH INFORMATION!!!!!!!!

Dani

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Cat
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posted June 22, 2002 02:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Dani

Well it's morning here now. Dinner was fine but I was so tired I then went to bed...

Not sure if you're asleep now.....
This is just a quickie to give you a link to June planetary movements. You'll see the ecplise degrees there. Moon will be in capricorn.
http://www.artcharts.com/astrology/ephemeris/june.html

Hope the link works
Chat later
Love
Sue

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Birdsong
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posted June 22, 2002 11:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Birdsong     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou sweetie!!!!

Dani

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Randall
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posted June 23, 2002 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, Cat!

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Morning Storm
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posted July 02, 2002 12:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
How are you doing Dani? When I get a chance, I have a long email to send to you! Hope all is well with you and your family.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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Birdsong
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posted July 03, 2002 01:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Birdsong     Edit/Delete Message
Hi 'Rel!

How've you been?

We haven't talked in ages!

Dani

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Morning Storm
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posted July 03, 2002 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Dani,

I don't have time to email you right now, but I will try soon. Until then, I'll just say life is always interesting with Uranus hanging around when you're an Aquarian.

Give Joanne a hug for me! I've been thinking of her a lot lately and know it must be for a reason.

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Birdsong
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posted July 03, 2002 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Birdsong     Edit/Delete Message
...it's because she has been calling you in her !

For days she kept bugging me if you had written back about the lexi she sent you...then she stopped saying anything...so I know she has been willing you to get in touch with her.....

Uranian times indeed!

Dani

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