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mambo
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posted June 23, 2002 02:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mambo     Edit/Delete Message
Two years ago I meet this lady, and being a shy Cappie I kept my feelings to myself. Over a period of seven months I got to know her better, and then discovered that she also had liked me from the first few times we met. This is the sad part, we went out for a week and then she broke up with me, I asked her why but she couldn't give me a reason...she just said that things weren't working. It broke my heart!! But heres the real interesting thing. It hasn't happened before or since. While we were together for that brief moment, there was a warmness that I felt inside my chest area, Heart Chakra..and it didn't matter if I had a lousy day, it was still there. She also said that she had this sensation, and the colours were more vibrant, we also had some telepathy happening. Anyway, after two weeks this warm feeling disappeared, but Tess said that she still had it a month later, but it was finally subsiding due to her friends putting all their burdens on her (Tess is a Leo). I have also had more than fifteen dreams about her and myself, something that hasn't happened before.

Just like to hear from anyone else that has experienced similiar.

Cheers Mambo

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PrincessButtercup
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posted June 23, 2002 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessButtercup     Edit/Delete Message
Hey mambo~
I don't know if this is similar...but I was friends with this Cappy for awhile and had the most intense feelings for him. It turns out that he has the same feelings, but could never tell me. Anyway, for the longest time anytime I would hear a particular song come on the radio no matter where I was I knew he would call right after. The silly thing is that we both love this song.
About a year ago, I started having weird sensations like I was feeling when he had a stomachache or a headache. It was weird, but cool! I would casually ask him about it and he would confirm that indeed he was feeling poorly at such and such time.
When I do dream about him, they are the most intense dreams ever and at the same time he has dreams about me too.
The latest thing happening was he KNOWS what I am thinking or feeling without me uttering a word. At first I thought it was just "coincidence" but he started freaking me out more and more by telling me word for word what it is I am thinking and feeling when I am being silent. It got to the point where I was saying "Get out of my head!" I asked how long has he been able to do this sort of thing and he had said "awhile", but he isn't able to do it with everyone.
So anyway, I don't know he if finally got freaked out but he's kinda backed away and I miss him terribly. I have never experienced this with anyone else. I am really needing some Healing Lite for my broken right now.

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We are all born for love;
it is the principle of existence and its only end.
-Benjamin Disraeli-


~Buttercup~

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Randall
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posted June 23, 2002 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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"It is never too late to become what you might have been." George Eliot

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mambo
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posted June 23, 2002 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mambo     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Princess

What I think it boils down to is, that even though you and Tess had leanings to the spiritual/esoteric side, when you really did start experiencing it for yourself and not reading it in a book...it scared you.
I just took it as being normal, and something that we all possessed once but lost and are slowly getting back. I don't think that comment helped the situation, you could have used a bit more tact. Telepathy wasn't something that happened all the time with Tess and myself, it seemed to happen when we were together, talking, or if she or I wanted to here from each other.
If you did say something that you might regret, go and give him a sincere apology, he probably feels like an outcast/freak and what you said wouldn't have helped the situation. You possibly could have been the closest friend/confidant that he had, and he could feel disillussioned by it all, and might become bitter and twisted.

I wish you the very best of luck
As the saying goes "You never miss it, 'til it's gone."

Cheers Mambo

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Randall
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posted June 24, 2002 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Wise words, Mambo.

Princess:

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mambo
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posted June 24, 2002 09:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mambo     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Princess
I actually replied yesterday but there must be some glitch, in the lines.

Yes it does but I think you had more of a bond than I did, I never experienced any sensation of pain/illness. The reason I withdrew was rejection, I can suffer loss, humiliation, failure but I can't handle rejection. Being the black sheep in my family, I was attracted to esoteric literature when I was 15...buying Cheiros book of Numerology, up until that time I was a atheist, and then had a strange happening that I could not explain, I've got a very logical/scientific mind and this couldn't be explained by either. Anyway my immediate family and relatives think I'm unusual to say the least. I don't talk about the happenings like I used to...ignorance is bliss, and they can't comprehend what I talk about. I think you have hurt this poor guys feelings...considering that he expressed feelings for you...it may take a while to get things back on an even keel, if you haven't done too much damage. One of the last conversations I had with Tess, I got the distinct impression that she had made a mistake, but I cannot force her to come back, I felt it had to be up to her...and I don't chase woman...it's not in my nature. Time will tell. If it is not too late, go and find out what has happened/upset him. There is one thing in my nature...i can't speak for all Cappies, but I find it really difficult to lie, and if someone asks me a question I'll tell them the truth, although I don't like hurting peoples feelings...being direct has certainly showed me that people don't like hearing the truth...i don't always say what I feel straight away, but I cannot keep my mouth shut for long if I think what they are doing is wrong. There are too many two-faced people in this world that say one thing to your face and another behind your back...and when confronted act like matyred saints. This really gets on my **** !!
For a person like your friend to have that ability and then get it thrown back in his face would be pretty devastating...Telepathy is something that very few people possess...and it cannot be used for malicious intent...he would not be able to read your thoughts all the time, and I doubt if he would want to. From what you have said he seems a very remarkable person and it would be a shame to see you lose a friendship over things that don't seem rational...Good Luck and I hope you succeed in your quest.
Cheers Mambo

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PrincessButtercup
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posted June 25, 2002 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessButtercup     Edit/Delete Message
mambo~
He is pretty remarkable. 2 months ago when we learned that I would possibly get a new job that would basically have me set for life-he used the excuse of my work hours as a reason to sever ties with me. His excuse was that he works 8-5 and I would work 2:30 to 12 am,which would leave us NO TIME to hang out like we always do. He also said he was selfish, needy and was used to my attention. Since I wouldn't be around, he'd have to go looking for attention elsewhere. Now I ask you, was that childish or or what?
Mind you, he said all this WAY before I jokingly told him to get out of my head.
I agree with you in that I won't chase him this time around and I can't force him to want to be with me. He has a "gift", but I think he is scared by it. He would always make fun of my beliefs, calling me a "witch" like it's a bad thing.
If I thought he was hurt by my comment, I would apologize and ask for forgiveness. At this point in time since he is using my new work schedule as an excuse to not want to hang out with me...I have no choice but to move on after 6 years of what I thought was friendship. Believe me when I say I am devastated and I wish sometimes that I could just forget everything about him 'cause I don't like feeling like I am being "punished" for making a better life for me and my child.
I know he was in my life for some reason, but I haven't quite figured that out yet. And maybe I never will.
The silly thing is I don't think I will ever be in love like that again and I am perfectly ok with it!

Buttercup

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Randall
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posted June 25, 2002 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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Morning Storm
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posted June 28, 2002 09:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome mambo.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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kiki2002
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posted June 28, 2002 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kiki2002     Edit/Delete Message
TRue Love~ what a wonderful & painful topic!

Yes it definately exists as a real tangible force. That's been my experience. Most of it is a mystery- because it can't be chased or captured. But when it happens you know it. It has nothing to do with illusion or fantasies. It comes when you're willing to risk being your whole true self with another. Allowing them to see your anger, (All the things we & others have labeled as "Bad") To discover they STILL love us or even love us during our processing of releasing those "BAD" emotions. It happens when you both become totally vulnerable like 2 little children. Look at the way of the children- they are the greatest teachers we have. They can throw their fits, say they hate you & they never want to play with you again & then return with tears in the eyes saying,"I missed you, I'm sorry, you are my best friend, I love you forever." But so many are afraid to become that vulnerable & honest with a partner. Believing vulnerability is "weak". This is not true- there is great power in vulnerability! If you become that naked & exposed to another & show them the beauty & love within & they Run- there is NOTHING wrong with YOU!! Some actually run away from true love because of the deep feelings & emotions that surface along with it. A very wonderful book about this is Kenny Loggin's & his wife's book called "LEAP OF FAITH". It's all about the stripping away of our false images & returning to the garden of innocence. "Innocence" -yes THAT would be the key word that I found true love to be.
When another loves all of us & doesnt judge! We become innocent again & the whole world changes. Chains fall off & fears are brought into the light for their final stand & we keep surrendering over & over again to the power of love. As Kenny Loggins sings- "As I surrender again & again to the will of the wind." (I also recommend his CD by the same name-Leap of Faith) There are a couple of what call "Soulmate songs" on there.
I'll leave you now with some of the words~
But first I'd like to say Mambo- you are right. The key to love is to STAY not run. My heart goes out to all of you who have taken risks & then had to feel the pain as someone walked away. It WASNT YOUR FAULT!! Take the risk anyway! AGAIN & AGAIN!!! Don't give up on love. If they bail- it's their stuff, their issues they must go look at & work on. Some will- others will hook up with someone "easier" that doesnt require them to do the work. It's their choice & also their loss. But YOU- dear ones- standing there in your naked vulnerability as they walk away-(some WILL stay-I promise) YOU are so powerful & so beautiful! And so close to Spirit/God/Goddess)Divine Love- whatever you wish to call it. Know that love is why we are here & you being willing to take that leap, that risk....Spirit applaudes you & loves you so much in that very moment & I promise there will be another (possible Soulmate) waiting in the
wings for you. Never let their rejection of your love make you feel "less than". In those moments of rejection (as we see it & label it) just whisper a silent call to Spirit & stand strong in your love-dont run for cover vowing to never become so exposed again. You are the bravehearts who will find that special love!
Now Kenny sings-(Turn up that volume!!)

"Whispered your name & introduction, darling my heart filled the room, and I knew, it was you, back in my life.
How many life times have I loved you- how many times have you loved me? The sound of your voice is in my memory, like the wind thru the trees.
So we meet again my long lost friend, together we get to start anew. And it's been like a thousand yrs, I'd been loving you"
You're too early for the sun, too early for the moon, too early for the rain, too early for my heart. But when I see you I just laugh and I belive- Im right where I'm supposed to be."
(Kenny had his own struggle- but he did the work & he returned to her & to love!)

Blessings & miracles to all you true lovers!
Kiki

"And the time came,
When the Risk to remain tight in a Bud
was more painful than the Risk it took to Bloom."
~Anais Nin~
ps- Oops I forgot one more thing- yes true love is loaded with telepathy & magic and miracles will surround you & your relationship. But those are just icing on the cake. Focus on the Spirit of Love above all those things.
True love -I've been told is finally feeling & knowing we are completely loved by God- and nothing can change that! TOtal pure unconditional love- what bliss - especially when we are given the pleasure to feel it thru a lover's kiss! Ahhhh

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Randall
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posted June 28, 2002 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message

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PrincessButtercup
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posted June 29, 2002 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessButtercup     Edit/Delete Message
Oh kiki~ that was soooo beautiful and inspiring. At least I don't feel as "defective" as I was earlier.


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mambo
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posted June 29, 2002 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mambo     Edit/Delete Message
I would really like to know what has been discussed, but I can only see P Buttercups/Randalls reply. Don't know what is wrong.

Cheers Mambo

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Randall
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posted June 30, 2002 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Some of the replies are long. I once had this problem with WebTV. Not enough cache. But all replies are here.

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