Lindaland
  Soul Unions
  Will things work out between my ex b/f and me?

Post New Topic  Post A Reply
profile | register | preferences | faq

UBBFriend: Email This Page to Someone! next newest topic | next oldest topic
Author Topic:   Will things work out between my ex b/f and me?
PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 11, 2002 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
In October, I started dating this guy. (He's a Gemini- 6/16/86, I'm an Aries- 3/27/85). Things were so great. We were together for 8 and a half months. (We broke up a couple times in between, but ALWAYS got back together at most 3 days later after we broke up). But we were fighting a lot at the end of the relationship, and i guess it was too much stress on both of us. So i broke it off. I thought it was the best thing, and it was at the time (he didn't seem too heartbroken about it), but i've been regretting it SO much lately. It's been only 2 weeks since we officially "broke up", but it feels like eternity. I saw him yesterday because I went to his house to take his sister out and when i dropped her back home I went in and me and him talked and everything. We ended up having sex actually. Anyway, when we were talking, I told him that i missed him and that i still like him and all, and he said the same thing about me...and I know that he still likes me. Actually I told him that I still love him. But anyway he said he just doesn't want a girlfriend. And I guess that's understandable. But I do want a boyfriend..i want HIM to be my boyfriend. But I told him that I didn't want that because I dont want him to know that that is why I'm hanging out with him because then he probably won't want to see me anymore. I told him all i want to be is his friend and I want to be able to hang out with him and stuff at least a few times before summer is over. He promised me he'd call me by or before Tuesday (July 16) so we could hang out on Tuesday. He always used to say he would call though, and NEVER would..so I'm not sure if he actually is going to call or not. But the thing is, I don't like anyone else or care about anyone else the way I do care about him and love him. He's so confusing sometimes though... I just want to know if you think things are going to work out between us? And if there are any ways or things I can do to win him back and make him realize that he does want me to be his girlfriend? Thanks!

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 11, 2002 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Princess

Can you let me have both your birth details?
Date, Time and Place of birth.

Thanks and I'll take a look at what may be happening for you
Sue

IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 11, 2002 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure of his time or place of birth. I'm pretty sure the state he was born in was New Jersey though, on June 16, 1986. I was born in Port of Spain, Trinidad, West Indies, at around 7:00 pm on March 27, 1985. Thanks for helping me!!!

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 12, 2002 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Princess.
I'm not sure how much astrology you know but I thought we should look at your chart.
I'll do that for you later today but I just want to talk to you about your post.

You say......
"But anyway he said he just doesn't want a girlfriend. And I guess that's understandable. But I do want a boyfriend..i want HIM to be my boyfriend".

Why do you think it's understandable, when he says he doesn't want a girlfriend?
Do you believe that he is telling you the truth when he says he does not want a girlfriend? Because if you really deep down in your heart believe what he is saying then you really have no choice but to accept what he is telling you. That's tough I know

You also say...
"But I told him that I didn't want that because I dont want him to know that that is why I'm hanging out with him because then he probably won't want to see me anymore. I told him all i want to be is his friend and I want to be able to hang out with him and stuff at least a few times before summer is over".

OK...So I think you really need to ask yourself why you're having to pretend. If it's because you're frightened of his answer then ask yourself why.
You say that he's confusing you but aren't you confusing him? You're telling him one thing when you really want another.

You also said...
"He promised me he'd call me by or before Tuesday (July 16) so we could hang out on Tuesday. He always used to say he would call though, and NEVER would..so I'm not sure if he actually is going to call or not".

Why do you think he doesn't call?

"He's so confusing sometimes though... I just want to know if you think things are going to work out between us?"

It's very difficult for anything to work out between 2 people who are confusing each other

"And if there are any ways or things I can do to win him back and make him realize that he does want me to be his girlfriend?"

The only person in life you can "make" do things is yourself.

You're obviously hurting a lot over this You say you ended the relationship because it wasn't working. What makes you feel it will be different now?

You know my Mother used to always say to me "never run for a man or a bus.......there'll always be another one along"

I really feel you need to spend time doing things that make you feel good. This situation is not making you feel good - so try "stepping back from it for a while". Do things with your girlfriends. Pamper yourself. Remember men "are the hunters" they like to do the chasing. Maybe...just maybe, when he sees how well you get on without him ......he'll start to miss you.
But you know what? If he doesn't miss you, by that time you'll be having so much fun that you'll be fine.
Sue

IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 12, 2002 12:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue.

Well, I do believe that he means it when he says that he doesn't want a girlfriend, but I think that if I make him remember all the fun we've had together that he will want me back, because that's happened before. I'm just not sure how I'm going to do it if he keeps telling me he'll call, and then not doing so. Because I don't want to keep chasing him like this the way I am.

I see your point, and I guess I'm confusing him too, but I'm really really afraid that if I tell him I want to be his girlfriend he'll try to avoid me a lot and not want to see me anymore.

I'm not sure why he doesn't call. He says he still likes me and misses me, but he also says he's very busy all the time. (He still hasn't called by the way...and he's not going to be home tonight, tomorrow, or Sunday because he's going camping for the weekend...so if he doesn't call today before he leaves, he only has Monday or possible Tuesday morning, and I doubt that he's going to call me then ).

The reason I feel that things will be different now is because we have gotten space from each other. And I honestly believe that's all we both needed, a little space. I guess I should've told him that when we broke up, but I didn't realize that then. He doesn't like to chase after girls though..he's not like that at all. If he likes a girl, he won't even let her know, she'll have to be the one to let him know. He's shy like that. He liked me before I even noticed him, but it wasn't until I started liking him and showing him that, that he showed me that he liked me. I mean, I even had to initiate the first kiss (which i don't mind at all).

I miss him a lot...I can't let go. No guy has ever made me cry before and I've had quite a few boyfriends. So I know that this is real...and I would never be able to be happy knowing that I just let him get away like that without trying. How I am is, when I see something I want, I go for it, and keep on going until I get it. So that's what I intend on doing...I just don't know what approach to take because obviously the one I am taking (calling him, hanging out w/ him, trying to be friends) isn't working because he's not calling me too. Well thanks for taking the time to help me, I REALLY REALLY appreciate it!

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 12, 2002 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Aw Sweetheart
Reading your post I can feel the pain you're going through.
It's hard for you I know but like you say "what you're currently doing is not working". So you need to change what you're doing.

"How I am is, when I see something I want, I go for it, and keep on going until I get it. So that's what I intend on doing"

You're an Aries Sun and you want what you want

Have you ever read a book called "The Rules" by Ellen Fein and Sherrie Schneider? Maybe you should

I'm going to look at your chart after I've eaten (it's 8pm here now).
Sue

PS: Maybe he doesn't call you because he knows he doesn't have to

IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 12, 2002 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
I was talking to my friend (she's an Aquarius, so I think I'm going to take her advice, but I'm not sure..I guess it'll depend on my mood). Anyway..she told me she thinks that if he doesn't call my by Tuesday, then I should call him and try to see if we could get together then or something. Do you think this is a good idea? I was also thinking about what you said "Maybe he doesn't call because he knows he doesnt have to"...and then I was thinking, maybe I should wait until the following Tuesday to call him (if he doesn't call me by then). I'm not sure. Well I'll check back here later. I'm also going to try and find that book you suggested . Thanks!
Annesia

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 12, 2002 03:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Princess
My honest answer....is no I do not think you should call him. Get that book

Still not eaten yet but there's a couple of things that are very strong in your natal chart. By strong I mean at 0 degrees - so very strong.
Please give this some thought......

Uranus opposed Moon:
People with stressful aspects between the Moon and Uranus have a fear of abandonment and can be prone to hysterics. The Moon shows, in any horoscope, relationships with women in general, particularly the mother. The stressful aspects (opposed is a stressful aspect) frequently mean that the mother’s schedule was erratic during the first few years of the person’s life, usually because the mother herself was erratic. As a result, the child, to survive, cuts off, says "I don’t need her". Everything is fine until they grow up and start dating. When they really like someone, up comes the feeling: "I need you", and that’s when they run. If they can’t run, they do or say something to make the other person run. There is also a tendency to be attracted to someone who is unavailable (married or out of town). In fact, the more unavailable the love interest, the greater the attraction. These traits are usually more noticeable in a women.

Uranus trine Mercury:
Gives a mind that is attracted to the new and unusual. This combination increases brilliance, flashes of genius. According to C.E.O.Carter, the harmonious aspects (the trine is harmonious) are common in the horoscopes of astrologers.
These folks have to learn to keep an open mind a little longer than they usually do before making it up because, once their mind is made up, it seldom changes. They can change their own minds several times a day but no one else can change their minds for them even once.

Uranus trine Venus:
Will attract strange and bizarre lovers. Uranus wants independence, freedom. If a relationship becomes too "normal", it breaks. And Uranus doesn’t just leave. It suddenly ejects. The trine is a harmonious aspect and so usually manages to be unusual and avant garde without being so inconstant.

You also have Mars in your 7th house (7th house rules relationships).....
Mars in the 7th House:
Gives an active, aggressive partner. Watch out for arguments. As long as they have plenty to do, everything tends to be fine. It they get bored, well, Mars will create a diversion. Conversely, you yourself may become more active and aggressive after marriage.

You currently have Uranus tranisting your 5th house (Romance)
Uranus shakes things up - sudden and often erractic changes!
If you’re dating, you will be attracted to people who are weird, unusual, independent, maybe even a bit shocking. Maybe there will be a great difference in your ages. Or they could just be the type of person that you would have never even considered going out with before. This transit can attract you to people who are geniuses, eccentric, or a bit crazy. On the plus side, if you are in any career that requires creativity, you will shine. Under Uranus transits, we never like to do things in old, routine ways, so you will tend to be much more innovative now. The 5th House also rules hobbies, sports, and games. This is a perfect time to take up new forms of recreation. Uranus transits give you a chance to open yourself up to new horizons.

Anyway, just a few things for you to think about. I tend to think your Uranus opposed Moon is seriously at work at the moment
Sue


IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 13, 2002 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue.

Don't starve over me!!

Well, I've thought about what you said and I know that I do tend to feel that I "need" him sometimes. But I'm not so sure if right now it's that I need him so much, I think it's that I just love him so much. I don't know...I'm so confused, upset, angry, and hurt all at the same time. It's bad...very bad. I don't get like this, ever. I'm usually happy all the time, so something is definately wrong here..

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 13, 2002 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Princess
How are you feeling today? Better I hope.

I've been looking at your transits and I "feel" that the transiting node is really "hitting" the Uranus opposed Moon aspect in your natal chart.
Possibly this is making you feel this so intensely.

I have not "studied" transiting nodes but Randall may be able to help out here.

Randall???
Transiting node aspects are currently.
0.00a degrees conjunct natal Moon
0.29a degrees sextile natal Mercury
0.43a degrees sextile natal Venus
0.25s degrees opposed natal Uranus
1.18s trine Ascendant

Sue

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted July 13, 2002 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
My study of Nodes has been mainly with the Sign and House arrangements as they relate to Soul missions. Not a lot of study in the Nodal transits. Anyone else? Donna? Lanny?

------------------
"He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love." Martin Luther King, Jr.

IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 13, 2002 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
Hey. Actually I am feeling a little better today, for what reason I don't know.

One of my friends is trying to hook me up with his friend though so I might go hang out with them today, so maybe that's why I'm feeling better..someone to get my mind off of Andrew (that's his name).

Well I wanna thank everyone for helping me so much, because this really means A LOT to me. Well I guess I'll check back later

Annesia

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 13, 2002 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Randall

Thanks, I wasn't sure if you'd studied node transits as well.

Hope you had a good time with Auriel

Sue

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 13, 2002 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Annesia
Great news...you see, just like my Mother always said..."never wait for a man or a bus as another one will be along before you know it"
And wow...here's another one already

Great distraction for you.
Have fun

Sue

PS: Still get that book though

IP: Logged

Randall
Webmaster

Posts: 16464
From: Columbus, GA USA
Registered: Nov 2000

posted July 13, 2002 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, Cat. I'm still learning myself. That's what's so good about the Astrology Course--we can all learn from each other.

------------------
"He who is devoid of the power to forgive is devoid of the power to love." Martin Luther King, Jr.

IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 13, 2002 01:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Sue, But the only problem is I don't even like this guy half as much as I like Andrew. Oh well..I guess that's the way it goes.

IP: Logged

Carla_A
Knowflake

Posts: 32
From: Brasil
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 13, 2002 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carla_A     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Annesia,
I´m Carla, well I read your story I don´t know why, I just felt like, and years ago I had a case similar to yours, I know the pain you are going through, it´s an obsetion that it´s hard to control, but try to do things to keep your self busy, try drawing, painting, hearing music, something that will distract your mind, and leave it in the hands of God. Maybe my little tiny expirience can give you support.
With the pass of the time, I realize that love can´t be planted in someone who´s heart isn´t pure and prepared for it. Although you don´t believe there are still guys out there with pure hearts that you can take care of, in witch heart you are going to feel safe, never forget to respect someones heart as if it was your own. I´m sure many girls go through tough and even harder things, but the special magic of life makes our hearts go over it and get stronger to love more intensly!
Give always everything you have in your heart and love, love is the essence of life. Beause if things don´t work you will never regret anything and will always know you gave your best. If someone doesn´t love you back, they are waisting a big present of life!
Luck.
Be happy! Life always has knew surprises!
huge hug from Brasil,
Carla

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 13, 2002 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Carla
Great advice
Sue

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 13, 2002 02:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Annesia

Well all you can do is give this new guy a chance.....and don't forget your tendancy "to want the one that's unavailable"

Don't ever forget that you deserve to be happy and to be in a relationship that makes BOTH of you happy

Take some to for you
Sue

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 13, 2002 02:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Randall
Me too....
The course will be fantastic for everyone
Sue

IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 13, 2002 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks to everyone for your help, it means so much I'm going to give this other guy a chance and everything too, cuz who knows, maybe I will be happier with him. I'll probably still try to be friends with Andrew though...Well, thanks again!!!!

Annesia

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 13, 2002 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Annesia

Let me know how you get on with this new guy
Sue

IP: Logged

PrincessO27
Knowflake

Posts: 57
From: Riegelsville, PA, USA
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 15, 2002 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PrincessO27     Edit/Delete Message
I've been talkin to people, and the 4 people that always seem to have the best advice, and the 4 I trust the most and they all had the same advice. They all said to leave him alone, don't call or anything, and he'll come running back because "that's how guys are- they like to chase, not be chased". And you said the same thing, so I'm gonna take everyone's advice!! Finally

Oh yeah- Andrew's neighbor told Andrew that he wants to "get to know me" and Andrew got so jealous! So I know he's gotta still like me and miss me right?

IP: Logged

Cat
Moderator

Posts: 3307
From: England
Registered: Jan 2002

posted July 15, 2002 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Princess
Great news that you've decided not to call him....
OK now here's the next "step".....
Don't ask anyone about him...what he's doing or saying. Now that is a tough one
But you can do it

And yes I'm sure he's missing you

Soooo
Now you potentially have 2 other guys!!!
Sue

IP: Logged

All times are Eastern Standard Time

next newest topic | next oldest topic

Administrative Options: Close Topic | Archive/Move | Delete Topic
Post New Topic  Post A Reply
Hop to:

Contact Us | Linda-Goodman.com

Copyright © 2004

Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com © 2000
Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a