posted July 19, 2002 03:35 PM         

Most Leo men have a hard time deeling with that. Unless their one of the few that have advanced them selves enough to keep their pride at bay, They have a hard time deeling with not being on the top{so to say}.

posted July 19, 2002 06:57 PM         

i just noticed that you have an 8 birthday, and he has 22. if you have linda's Star Signs, i would highly recommend reading her chapter on those numbers of heavy karmic lessons.

i will get back to you next week.

thanks for your patience.

posted July 20, 2002 12:56 AM         

Without your guys birth time, this is the best I can do with his chart. If he was born between 12 midnight and 11:20am on August 22nd, he has a Taurus Moon and from 11:21am on, a Gemini Moon.

Don't get sucked in, thinking this guy isn't intelligent enough to tie his shoes. He's got a Virgo Mercury and possibly a Gemini Moon. This is a default chart using noon as his birth time.

Sex M
Miami, FL 12 UNITED STATES Saturday 22 August 1981 12:00 pm Julian day 2444839.17
Adjust 4.00 ST 8.43 Lat 25.46 Long 80.11

Sun Leo 29.28
Moon Gemini 0.24
Mercury Virgo 11.22
Venus Libra 4.53
Mars Cancer 23.20
Jupiter Libra 9.53
Saturn Libra 7.38
Uranus Scorpio 26.12
Neptune Sagittarius 22.08 R
Pluto Libra 22.18
Lilith Scorpio 26.18
Asc node Leo 1.29

This is from my chart program and may give you some insight into what makes him tick. As in any chart, you will find some condradictions

Sun in Leo

He is masterful, likes authority, aspires towards an ideal. A little too pretentious and always wanting things. He likes to give advice. He is honest, frank, loyal, open and sincere.
Weaknesses: pride, vanity, arrogance, presumption and disdain of others.

Moon in Gemini

Sharp intellect. He likes literature, adapts to all situations and social groups. Work in contact with the public, literary occupations, travel.
Weaknesses: lack of follow-up of ideas, indecision, goes back on decisions.

Mercury in Virgo

He discusses, deduces and judges. He reasons logically and accurately.
Weaknesses: he is easily irritable and nervous. He tells off and criticizes. He is impulsive and manic.

Venus in Libra

Happiness is found in marriage, living with another. He is devoted, tender, affectionate, gentle. Love is a matter of charm, rapture, delicacy. He cannot hide his love, but needs legal recognition.
He wants all the marriage rites.
Weaknesses: he likes to be worshipped, enjoys flattery and likes to be surrounded by his inner circle. This causes a few problems after marriage.

Mars in Cancer

He works relentlessly for the well-being of the family. All the aggressiveness is channelled in order to improve the conditions of life for the family, which is his foremost preoccupation. He rarely gets angry and never cries.
He controls himself perfectly. That said, if someone, even a member of the family, goes too far then the anger is all the more impressive for being so uncommon.
Weaknesses: Domestic quarrels, discipline problems with children, house moves that are not necessarily an improvement.

Jupiter in Libra

A high liver with a sweet, attractive and sunny disposition. Likes justice, which he trusts. He knows how to forgive completely.
Weaknesses: he can have problems, because he gets involved in doubtful situations through trusting too much.

Saturn in Libra

Recognized for his seriousness, moral qualities. He is respectable, conscientious.
Weaknesses: not open to new ideas.

Uranus in Scorpio

Intelligent and subtle. Adores research, inquiry, investigation. Very sensual.

Neptune in Sagittarius

Likes long voyages, things foreign, water.

Pluto in Libra

Brings changes.

Conjunction
Venus - Saturn

He has a good grasp of reality and of duty. He is thrifty, reserved and does not show off. He likes truth and justice. In love, his sentiments are sincere and deep, he never plays false.
He is, of course, faithful in love and friendship. He can love a much older person and appreciates his intelligence and good sense.

Conjunction
Jupiter - Saturn

He is serious, patient, honest, hard-working, orderly. His judgement is good and he thinks over things. He pursues his objectives to the bitter end, always knowing when to choose the right moment.
He is upright and respects the law.

Conjunction
Venus - Jupiter

He is good-hearted, generous and has a good character. He likes well-being, comfort, a life without problems. He has good relations with his circle. He is easy to approach.
All the same, he falls in love easily. He has a successful married and professional life.

Square
Sun - Moon

Someone who is never satisfied. He is unstable because never content with what he has, cannot take an important decision.
He therefore has difficulty in staying in the same post, and frequently changes jobs, thinking things can only get better. He certainly has problems with his parents.

Opposition
Moon - Uranus

He has a feverish, non-constructive restlessness. He is too susceptible. While his life is full of change, he is full of hot air. He is eccentric, irritable and stubborn.
He has difficulty concentrating on a job. Nervous strain. His friendships are like his professional and love life - unstable.

Conjunction
Uranus - Lilith

He lives through marvellous adventures - without any follow-up, it is true, but which leave a happy memory. He will have many such adventures and fantastic love-at-first-sight encounters.

Opposition
Moon - Lilith

Love-at-first-sight is to be avoided, as it will make one forget all other duties and lead to ruin.

Trine
Moon - Venus

He is gracious, sweet and gay. He likes pleasure and entertainment, but also the Arts. He needs tenderness, loves and wants children. He appreciates home life in a comfortable atmosphere.

Square
Sun - Uranus

His independence and need for liberty are all-important. He does not accept constraints or barriers. Mainly extravagant eccentricity.

Square
Sun - Lilith

You might worry about a friend betraying you, although your partner will undoubtedly find this person full of charm!

Sextile
Neptune - Pluto

Taste for the extraordinary and the bizarre.

Trine
Mars - Uranus

He possesses exceptional energy. He is impulsive but bold. He takes on risky enterprises for the good of the community, with all the energy he possesses.
He has a great need of his independence, likes his freedom of action.

Square
Mars - Pluto

He is violent, brutal, irascible and succeeds in crushing others, without giving it a thought.

Trine
Mars - Lilith

Love affairs are tempestuous with quarrels, crises, great passion after the storm.

Trine
Sun - Neptune

He has a fertile imagination, is full of inspiration, and very emotional - all qualities that he uses on the professional level. He likes the Arts, beauty.

Trine
Moon - Saturn

He controls his feelings. He has a sense of duty, of self-esteem and is prudent. He can concentrate on a long-term task, manual or intellectual. He perseveres and is serious in everything he does.

Inconjunct
Mars - Neptune

His feelings are dominated by wisdom and geared towards the ideal. He likes water, sea voyages. He likes odd people.

If it turns out he was born between 11:32am and 1:48pm, he's a Scorpio rising. I wouldn't try insincere flattery on him or play games with him because he'll see right through you.

When you secure his birth time, someone can run a synastry for you.

jwhop

posted July 21, 2002 02:19 PM         

Hello Flame

Thanks for the nice words. But whatever made you think I'm a her??

posted July 21, 2002 11:31 PM         

I have 7 masculine signs and 3 feminine. Could be my Libra Venus got loose for a minute.

jwhop

posted July 22, 2002 03:53 PM         

jwhop has put together a nice horoscope for your friend for more information, you could research on your own to find out more meanings with the above list.

though, has it answered your question?

talk to you later.

posted July 22, 2002 04:24 PM         

Jwhop, thank you for running that chart for me--that was very helpful! (For the record I assumed you were male.) I was convinced he was a Libra, both because he's handsome and because he is taking his sweet time wtih me. I should've known he was a Leo when he told me he wanted everyone stop dead in their tracks and look at him when he sang, and that he wished his nickname were Most Awesome Guy in the World.

posted July 22, 2002 07:32 PM         

You're welcome for the chart and interpretation. Kind of wish I hadn't read what you just wrote about your Leo guy. Makes me want to reach out and smack him

You were right about him in that he is strong Libra, having Venus, Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto in Libra and if he was born between 9:17am and 11:31am, he's Libra rising as well---at least according to my chart program.

Aphrodite

Glad to see you answering questions now and you do it so well.

jwhop

posted July 23, 2002 02:32 PM         

i really appreciate the opportunity to help out here, especially getting feedback and questions.

posted July 24, 2002 02:22 PM         

i looked at donna's answer, it is certainly clear that she took some time out to answer your question. why would you want to ask it here again?

posted July 24, 2002 06:17 PM         

i see. well . . . i don't know much myself about chiron, except that it is an entity that symbolizes the experience of wounding in the path to healing. sorta like "you gotta feel if you're ever gonna heal" type of thing. though, my feelings are that chiron is not as painful or destructive as pluto, who makes you sift through every piece of garbage and eat it too---until we learn how to quit doing what's bad. hehe, i like to think of pluto as a mirror, we may look pretty on the outside, but when we look in the mirror, there's a hideous creature we hide from our own selves eating at us until we cry "Uncle!!!". hehehe.

auriel is writing a book about chiron at the moment. if you're interested, you could ask to be on her "list" so you'll get updated on its progress.

as for your friend, i feel that donna has given you some good insight the thing is, astrology can tell you "what it is, and what it 'aint." except for horary and tarot, few things can really predict whether or not a person will actually take on possibilities. so if donna says your friend is attracted to you, and i suspect that he is, and with what jwhop has taken his time to type for you, then all there really is if he'll act upon it. that's really up to him to decide. i sense you already know this somehow, but are a little impatient to learn whether or not he will ACT upon it. which no one can really know except him, and YOU if you look inside and be honest with yourself. do YOU know deep down if he wants to be with you??? don't be afraid of the answer.

best

posted July 29, 2002 05:15 PM         

keep your eyes open