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Elohim
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posted August 16, 2002 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
Auriel, this is something I have wanted to ask you for AGES.

You know about my Love. Well, certain Vedic Astrologers in India have predicted that we will certainly break-up soon or later, if we marry. I know one can choose their path even if they are being swayed by the Stars' influence, and I wouldn't leave 'her' for anything in the world, no matter what the consequences may be.

But, I confess I do have a little worry at the back of my mind. It is about Saturn's transit through Cancer, from mid-2003 to mid-2005. If 'we' can survive that, we will susrvive ANYTHING. But this transit seems to be quite daunting. Could you please let me know how you FEEL about the transits I and she will be facing? Here are the details:

I have (as you know) Mercury, Venus, Mars, Pluto, Juno and PT Fortune ~ all in Libra. My rising sign is Cancer.

M (my Love) is a Libra Sun and Libra Rising, and has her Uranus and Pluto in Libra. She also has Saturn in Cancer.

So, when Saturn transits Cancer, these are the transits we will be facing:

She:
* Saturn Return
* Saturn square Sun
* Saturn square Ascendant
* Saturn square Uranus
* Saturn square Pluto

I:
* Saturn in First House
* Saturn square Mercury
* Saturn square Venus
* Saturn square Mars
* Saturn square Juno
* Saturn square Pluto
* Saturn square PT Fortune

What will it be like, Auriel? Is separation likely?

<Grits his teeth and resolves to show the planets, "Who's stronger">

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Morning Storm
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posted August 19, 2002 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Elohim, send me her birth data. I get a better pix and feel things better when I can SEE the charts. Thanks!

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Cat
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posted August 19, 2002 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Elohim
Saturn transits.....
Well Auriel will obviously be giving you great advice.

I just wanted to say that I have just gone through Saturn sq Mars, Saturn sq Pluto, Saturn sq Mercury, Saturn sq Venus, Saturn sq Asc (opposing descendant), Saturn sq Sun, Saturn opposed Moon (still got another 2 whacks of that to go). I now have Saturn opposed Chiron and Chiron square Saturn with Saturn sq Saturn also approaching.
And Pluto decided he didn't want to be left out and so squared everything as well........

It's been very hard, I've learnt so much that my head's still spinning......but I'm still here and smiling.

For sure they are not easy transits but there is always light at the end of the tunnel. Saturn is determined to teach us, he's a tough task master but I truely believe that he always has our best interests at heart. A bit like a doctor making you take "yucky" medicine - but it always makes you better and stronger

Sue

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Elohim
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posted August 23, 2002 10:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
Auriel ~ I'll send you her birth data soon. I have to find out the Latitude and Longitude of her place of birth first, as she was born in a small town whose data will not be there in your astrology software. Thanks for doing the chart!

Cat, !!!
I can agree it must have been a tough time. And yes, I agree transits like these ultimately help us grow. I must have been through some tough transits earlier too (when I was unaware of Astrology), and survived them. No reason I won't survive the forthcoming ones. But that being said, you know how hypochondriac Virgos think thems-elves ill!

Going by the wisdom you emanate, you certainly have utilized well the spiritual development potantial of the transits.

Auriel, you and Randall, by surviving inspite of your tough current transits, have inspired me too! Thanks!

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Morning Storm
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posted August 24, 2002 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Morning Storm     Edit/Delete Message
Elohim, it's a huge birthday weekend here. I jumped online real quick in front of Aneasha because I haven't had time to go near the computer for the last two days. I won't be back online until Monday, but will answer it for you then. Have a great weekend!

BTW, this isn't the first hit Randall and I've had--Uranus and Saturn have been all over us for about a year now. Somehow we've managed to ride out the others--sometimes with ease and sometimes not, but we somehow always manage to find each other. Love conquers all.

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Elohim
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posted September 04, 2002 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
Auriel, I finally found the coordinates of her birth place. I'll mail them to you.

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Auriel Langford
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posted September 05, 2002 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
Send them whenever you are ready, Elohim.

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Elohim
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posted September 25, 2002 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
Auriel, finally it is *time*

I'll be posting my data too, so that others can use it too. Here is the complete data:

Mine:
Date: September 17, 1976
Time: 01:05 am, Indian time (GMT + 5:30)
Place: New Delhi, India.

Her ("M"'s):
Date: October 06, 1973
Time: 07:00 am (same time zone as above)
Place: Bettiah, India. (Latitude 26.48N, Longitude 84.33E)

I'll be looking forward to any input you (or anybody else) can provide on the transits I and my Twin should be aware of, in the near future. Thanks in advance.

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Elohim
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posted September 25, 2002 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
Ummm ... if anybody else (apart from Auriel) too wants to say something, please do so.

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juniperb
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posted September 25, 2002 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for juniperb     Edit/Delete Message
Elohim, I know your looking for astrological replys, but I`d like to send S your way & remember free will. Eliminate the worry ( why borrow grief) and with all your being. Oh ya, keep the teeth gritted too
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Elohim
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posted September 25, 2002 12:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
juniperb, it's hard to keep the teeth gritted when you are smiling. Thank you for your encouragement, and words of wisdom.

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted September 25, 2002 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Elohim,

I am no Astrology expert, but have studied only the basics. I have NO idea what all of your transits mean, but from your words, I can tell they are serious with major challenges ahead. What I can offer you, is some "Other" type of (Libra) advice.

I don't have to tell you how understanding Libra's are naturally, because you and your girl already know. You live and breathe it. I have never seen so many Libra influences in ANYONE'S chart before. Wow!
My advice for you and for other's in this situation is to have many moments of deep BONDING with each other. If you don't make the time, you could be in trouble. I sense your concern that you feel you could possibly lose your girl during those rough aspects, so why not lay down the ground work NOW? Do it Elohim. Then there will be no regrets or room for guilt later.
If she is into Astrology as well, she will understand. Sit her down, grab her hand and look into her eyes and say, sweetheart, I'd like to take a moment, to have a serious talk with you about my concerns involving our relationship during these tough times.
I need you to know that they will hit us in a most profound way, and whatever transpires in our moments of unbearable conflicts of growth and adjustments, I just want you to know that I still LOVE you no matter what we may be going through. I need you to fully understand that this is beyond our control and it will take two people (us) to be aware of those challenging times when it occurs. Understand completely that it is not YOU!
With your help, your love, patience and understanding, we can overcome this. Let's not be defeated.
Then make a commitment to that agreement.
Once you both become involved in the challenges of those placements and something comes up where your fighting, just remind yourselves of your agreement. Give each other space to vent. Make use of that unconditional love theme. Wait for days of peace and harmony, and during those times, do something special together. I would suggest joint meditations with emphasis on your love for each other. Meditations should also include compassion, harmony and tolerance. That's a start. Then bond in other ways with constant reassurance of your love for her. Pamper her. We love that! Write out your confessions of love for her on notepads and post them in different places in the house. Do it to remind yourselves of the love you share.
During arguments, people are generally too heated to think logically in those situations, but if you had reminders in the form of a Post, it could help out by calming them down and reassuring the love and commitment. When your both calm again, it can lighten the atmosphere tremendously.
Leave her notes where she least expects it. A woman's heart is always open to receive kindness and love from her lover no matter what the situation is. As long as she knows that her lover is genuine.
Hope this helps...

Can't hide the fact that I am a Hopeless Romantic huh?

Good luck Elohim.
Don't forget that Love IS the Answer!

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Auriel Langford
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posted September 26, 2002 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Elohim,

I never saw where you posted your birth data. Sweet friend, I'm so sorry. I'll look at it at my earliest convenience. It won't be today, but I'll do my best to get it tomorrow.

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Elohim
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posted September 26, 2002 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
Auriel ~ don't feel bad. I posted it only yesterday. And take your time ... we still have almost a year to go before Saturn changes signs. But there is one more request ~ apart from an overview of the near future. Please let us know if January or February 2003 will be a good time for us to marry.

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Elohim
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posted September 26, 2002 12:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message
VenusWarriorPrincess ~ THANK YOU for such a lovely and wise advice. The thought of doing all those things maks me wish for more such transits, so that I can repeat all of that. But seriously though, you are right about the need for a strong foundation. Luckily, I and my girl have already had a lot of opportunities to bond. We are quite close And I did tell about the transits, and fortunately she did believe me. Like me, she also has a "tiny" concern at the back of her mind, but doesn't worry too much, because we already have a strong foundation. But still, I asked for advice because you never know with so many transits what the situation will really look like.

You are also right about a woman's heart always being open to receive kindness and love from her lover, even in difficult situations. I have seen it happen.

Thank you dear friend for your advice. And glad to meet another Hopeless Romantic.

Love and Light, and Good Luck to you too!

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted September 26, 2002 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Elohim,

You are so welcome! Just know that everything will be fine. Sounds like you two have alot more going for you than most, so I commend you on your concerns, responsibilities and caring enough to truly take care of your girl! Bravo! I wish more men were like you!

And nice to meet you too, my fellow Hopeless Romantic kin! One thing about us Romantics is the simple fact that we need no REASON to do what we do BEST! (smile)

Take Care!

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Elohim
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posted October 21, 2002 04:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Elohim     Edit/Delete Message

Auriel, don't worry; perhaps it wasn't yet 'time' for me to receive answers for these questions. But, is it time now?

No hurry ~ please do it at your convenience.

Venus, thanks for your very kind words. And yes, I agree ~ we don't need any reasons to spread our cheer in this world!

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posted November 04, 2002 11:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
sending this request back out into the universe . . . yoo hoo world . . .

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Carlo
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posted November 15, 2002 11:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message

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