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Sagaquari
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posted October 21, 2002 09:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message




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Aphrodite
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posted November 04, 2002 11:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hiya sweets,

if you'd like for me to look at your natal chart, i need to have your birthdata information:

birthdate
birth city
birth time

thank you!

aphrodite

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Sagaquari
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posted November 05, 2002 08:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
It should be posted all over the place, but just for you...

12/06/62

11:01am

Rochester, New York USA

Tahnks!

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Aphrodite
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posted November 05, 2002 09:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
thank you.

be back to you soon.

aphrodite

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Sagaquari
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posted November 05, 2002 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, thanks!

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Aphrodite
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posted November 05, 2002 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hi Sagaquari,

i am looking at your chart right now. it is quite complicated, and i'd like more time to look at it.

was there anything specific you'd like for me to pay attention to? a frown is so enigmatic that a layman like me may misunderstand that as a smile with a blue face when i stand on my head.

hehe.

i look forward to hearing from you soon.

aphrodite

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Sagaquari
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posted November 06, 2002 09:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
I guess I just wanted to know why I don't seem to be happy single or in a couple. Is there a misery aspect or something that indicates that I'm just going to be miserable no matter what? Maybe the right one hasn't shown up yet? Maybe I am just supposed to be alone in this life time? And maybe that is just too intense of a question to ask.

Thanks for the effort, but don't worry yourself about it too much.

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Aphrodite
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posted November 06, 2002 10:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hi

don't discount yourself, you've got my attention on your chart.

i like intense questions. they make me think not that i don't already.

i will ponder on your inquiries.

be back soon.

aphrodite

p.s. please, please, please concentrate through your mind's eye on giving me permission to look in your chart to help you. if you open up yourself, i'll be able to help you more. i don't know why i wrote this, but thought i'd send this out.

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posted November 06, 2002 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hi sagaquari,

it appears you are asking about a social question?

you have the planet saturn sitting directly on your ascendant, and it squares your venus. your sun also squares your pluto in the 7th house.

may i ask how you learned of astrology and how you came about this website? just curious.

aphrodite

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Sagaquari
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posted November 07, 2002 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
I did a search on the web one day to see if I could find people interested in the things I was interested in. And here I am.

I have been interested in astrology since I was a teenager.

I have read Lindas Sun Signs, Love Signs, and Star Signs. I just purchased Gooberz yesterday.

I am just frustrated with the way my relationships always turn out. The ones with men! I'm tired of having my heart broken. But for some reason I just can't stay single.

That mean ole' Saturn would have to mess with my ascendant! What exactly does that mean? Will relationships always be problem?

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Aphrodite
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posted November 07, 2002 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hello sagaquari,

if you don't mind, i'd really like to know more details on how you mean with "will relationships always be a problem." what do you think and feel inside when you write this? what have your experiences been?

i just need more context and details to go on because you are asking such important questions. does this make sense? i don't want to give lackluster possibilities on these types of questions.

aphrodite

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Sagaquari
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posted November 07, 2002 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
Down to the nitty-gritty?

I get bored easily. I seem to grow out of relationships quickly. Except for the Libra with a Taurus moon I had a 14 year on-off relationship with, although I never had to live with him, so who knows?

I still have a fairytale dream of forever.

I seem to be doomed to conformity. I go out of my way to adapt to them, then I come to my senses. I realize that I can't be myself with this person. It happens before I realize it. Then I end up miserable. Then I want out.

I've been hurt in the past. Three times by that Libra. I don't ever seem to understand what went wrong.

I get accused of doing things I'm not doing. I get dirty looks and heads shaken at me. Like I'm some kind of an alien. Not one man I have ever been with has been able to deal with my changablity.

I can't help it. For all my "illusionary 40 years" I'm still a puppy at heart.

Could it be past life related? Was I a jerk to all these people in another life?

Does any of this make sense?

Do you have any specific questions?


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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted November 08, 2002 03:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Sagaquari,

I am a Libra with Taurus moon, and it could be that your changeability is looked upon as you not being sincere or stable because of your need to jump from one thing to the next out of boredom. It could also include a thought of the possibility of you cheating or wanting to, due to your restlessness.
If Libra is in a relationship, he/she wants to be! They are flexible and patient.
I've dated Taurus' and they usually are so fixed that they think air quality is unstable or that everyone else wants you because they do, and fear the consequences, thus revealing possessive qualities. If he thinks your unstable, he will look at you in the way you describe. Seems his Taurus moon is acting out as oppose to the Libra sun. What is his rising?
I have Aquarius rising, so I understand both sides. I usually don't get bored in my relationships though. If I'm in it, I'm in it because I want to be. Libra and Sag's are typically a great pair, but his Taurus moon could possibly be more influential in feeling that you are not serious with him due to your fire and air qualities of being more freestyle.
Anything making sense?
I am not an astrologer, but I have studied PEOPLE and have interacted with certain astrological types if you will, who share some of the same qualities.

Perhaps you don't feel completely happy in OR out of relationships because you haven't found the one who CLICKS with you. One you Trust, who Understands you, as well as keep the Excitement alive without judgement.
Your planets may be playing a role in this also, so allow Aphrodite to do her thing!

Good Luck....

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Sagaquari
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posted November 08, 2002 08:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
VWP - he has a Leo rising. So two fixed signs. The reason the relationship was on-off was because he couldn't decide between me an an Aries. She wasn't the independent type of Aries. He wanted to take care of her. I didn't need to be taken care of. I was either stupid of just loved him enough to keep taking him back when it was my turn.

And yes he considered my restlesness a sign of a weak mind. That's how he put it! He was afraid that I would change my mind. He didn't understand that my restlessness didn't include him. I did cheat, but it was with him. It was always only him.

I'm in the healing process. I have let go of trying to make him understand. I have accepted the fact that this lifetime isn't the one or he just isn't the one. I have forgiven him for hurting me in this or any other lifetime. I asked him to forgive me in the same way, only he doesn't believe in reincarnation. I am going to find (or make) myself a place in this world without him. I remember telling him that if I couldn't spend the rest of my life with him I would want to spend the very last day with him.

Maybe I was just supposed to learn a lesson from the experience. I learned a lot.

There have been many lessons. I'm sure there will be many more!

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted November 08, 2002 01:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Sagaquari,

There is plenty that I could say right now, but due to time constraints, I am limited.
However, I will say this...
I have known Sag women who have been in relationships with guys who just don't understand their NEED for independence.
A Sag woman is independent BEFORE a relationship and will be independent AFTER a relationship. She is a free bird not to be CAGED. When a Sag woman is in a relationship, they WANT to be, not NEED to be. Men, deep down DO understand this concept.
They are innately created that way themselves. Course, there are rare exceptions.
My advice for ANY man who falls for an independent woman, ESPECIALLY a Sag woman... "Hold on Loosely." The 80's band 38 Special couldn't be more correct with this knowledge. Perhaps they knew first hand of this special and unique type woman.
When a man truly falls in love, he feels vulnerable. It's crazy, cause basically, they fall in love with a personality that initially turned them on. Once in the relationship, they feel as if you could just pack up and leave because you don't NEED them. Insecurity is a b-tch! There are those who NEED to be NEEDED. He sounds like one of them. I know a very wealthy man who is married to a wonderful, highly educated, social woman who is equally independent and doesn't need him because she has her own life and money. He adores her to no end because he RESPECTS her and will never leave her because socially they are perfect in societies eyes. However, his need to be NEEDED has him in a frenzy with cheap hookers and mistresses because they need him, er, his MONEY rather and they lay it on thick with dishonest intentions. Even with that knowledge, he doesn't seem to care, as long as he THINKS they really want him for him and not his money.
People jump into relationships too quickly without much exploration of personalities and interests. The real core of WHO is inside. We as a society, need to stop being so preoccupied with marriage and needing to be in relationships just for the sake of being in them. Attitude is essential. We need time to get ourselves together before any relationship begins, unless of course, you want PLAY time. However, marriage is serious business!
It takes many things to make it work. It takes cultivation. Relationships need time to develop and season properly.
Yes, no doubt, you needed those lessons for growth and understanding and they will continue in your path to enlighten you.
Just go with the flow and continue to do what interest you the most and be okay with yourself in whatever holds true for you. You never need to pretend for someone else.
BE yourself, because there WILL be someone who will honor and appreciate those qualities you possess, because more than likely, he will be of the same mold and will understand.

Take Care...

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Sagaquari
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posted November 08, 2002 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
VWP- You are very right about just being okay with myself. That is what I'm working on right now. It's hard, but I am discovering that I am a treasure. It's jsut buried very deep!

I'm glad I found Linda Land. There are people like me here.

Thanks!

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posted November 08, 2002 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Sag girl,

Somehow, you've lost yourself... Your true, raw essence in the battles of your relationships. They have effected you to the point of not feeling secure in your beliefs.
You can preach to someone until your blue in the face, and if they don't understand or honor your individuality, then it's time to take your TRUTH and walk away with self respect and assurance. Attitudes vary, so just know that you are individual yes, but also that you are not alone in the things you hold valuable to you. Other's like you will find you to aid you in the process of rediscovering yourself. Wait and see.
Your treasure may be buried, but it is definitely there sweetie. A Jewel so Beautiful, Rare and Bright it BLINDS! (interesting double meaning would you say)
Just rid yourself of all the clutter and you'll discover it again, and what a time it will be.
Time for celebration I'd say.
Meanwhile, here's a toast to you.... Cheers!

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Sagaquari
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posted November 09, 2002 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
... clinks beautiful crystal glasses with VenusWarriorPrincess, takes a sip of delicious nectar, and smiles a very happy smile...

Thanks VWP! It's nice to find someone encouraging who seems to understand exactly what I'm gong through.

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VenusWarriorPrincess
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posted November 09, 2002 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for VenusWarriorPrincess     Edit/Delete Message
Aww how SWEET Sag girl!

Mmmmm that nectar was quite SOMETHING! Think I need to sit down for a minute.

Yes, I DO understand. That is why my position here on earth was to hold the scales.
They are representation of Balance. To acheive balance, it takes an equal amount of "Give and Take." Understanding EXACTLY what it will take to acheive the desired outcome. And of course, we have FEELINGS even though our symbol is a nonliving thing. Everything in life holds energy, and we vibrate sometimes at a higher frequency than people realize we even have. Oh, the ironies...

Much love to you...
Okay, about ready for another toast now!

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posted November 11, 2002 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
hi sagaquari,

"I get bored easily. I seem to grow out of relationships quickly."

you have the planet of eccentricity and the unexpected, uranus, conjunct your vertex in the 7th house of relationships. pluto and mars are also in your 7th house. one of your soul's main lessons in this life is to learn how to understand yourself in a relationship. to know what your needs are, and realistically look at yourself at how you operate within the intimate sphere. since these planets are the in the 7th house, you will most actively work and think about these issues through the MIND. it's just how you are. it has to go through your mind, you have to work on it through that level first.

these lessons that you must accomplish and learn are in conflict with your Sun, as pluto forms a square to your 11th house of hopes, wishes, and visions. in order for idealism and reality to mesh you need to patiently take the time to work through the details in your mind first. it just has to click in there first and foremost before things falls into place.

hope this helps.

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Sagaquari
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posted November 11, 2002 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sagaquari     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Aphrodite!

That actually makes perfect sense. No one else could understand why I have to think things to pieces before I act on it. It isn't because I don't understand. It's because that is part of the way I feel it. That is how it becomes real to me. It's nice to know that I'm not completely nuts!

Could that conflict with my Sun be one of the reasons I find it so difficult to make my dreams come true? Or another way to put it-find my lifes work?


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Carlo
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posted November 15, 2002 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Carlo     Edit/Delete Message

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