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weird purple sparkles
Knowflake

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posted February 02, 2003 09:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
hi.. i am going crazy. i posted something on the astrology message board a few days ago, about our respective saturn and jupiter in leo... but i need to understand this more deeply..

if anyone can help me, i'd be so grateful! we've been together for just over a year and a half, and i'm about 9 weeks pregnant with his child. i'm sort of freaked, because of how intense our relationship is. we fight alot, but we are also SO strongly attracted to one another. it is either MAGICAL and heavenly or nightmarish..

i just need some real direction with this. i am always grasping, but we go around and around in these circles. i can't tell if we're good for eachother or not. ANY ideas or perceptions to help me understand this would be so wonderful!!

me:
february 4th, 1979
5:59 am
saskatoon, sk, can
(i should come up as 8 degrees cap asc. if not, put to 6:59 am)

him:
february 11th, 1978
7:07 pm
swan river, man, can
(should be 7 degrees virgo asc.)

thank you!!

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 02, 2003 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sparkles,

When I look at your chart, it's exactly as you describe--intense, with both soft and challenging aspects. Although you may both be Aquarius, you have squared risings-- you have Sag rising and he has Virgo rising. Fortunately, they are not close to the same degree, or it'd make it even more challenging. Even still, it gives you very different personalities. Another challenge is your Moon squares his Sun/Venus conjunction. You will be emotional about it and he will become aloof and distant, which will make you more emotional, which will make him more aloof, etc. It's a viscious cycle, and only patience, Love, and understanding can break it. On the positive side, your communication is awesome and can talk about anything. So, if you want to develop a strong and stable relationship, watch the transits and know when to give each other space. Right now, he needs a lot of it. If you push him too far, he'll bolt. Uranus is conjuncting his Venus and opposing his Saturn. He has a lot of stress and internal pressure and you know as well as I do that Aquarians keep it all in and then just blow up one day. If he doesn't find a way to release some of that energy, his blow up day will be coming soon. Expect more than one of them. And remember, he has Venus oppose Saturn in his natal chart. He may not feel like he deserves to be so happy during the fun times or may be afraid they won't last. He really needs you to teach him that relationships can be healthy and happy. You need a lot of patience when you have a partner who has that aspect.

Good luck, and let us know if you need anymore help.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
~Upendra

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posted February 02, 2003 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
hi auriel!
thanks for your reply, but actually i am 8 degrees capricorn ascendant..

my chart usually comes up as sag ascendant, but that's because so many don't realize that sask. doesn't change time zones.

do you think you could take another look?

thanks again!

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posted February 02, 2003 11:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
one interesting thing about us is that we both have mercury in aquarius at 11 degrees. we do strangely understand eachother SO well sometimes, but the emotional stuff is what keeps us in circles.

about my moon squared his sun and venus, yeah.. i know. it's squared my sun, merc and mars too! but i am learning to integrate that. seems this lifetime might be about stabalizing for him, as he has virtually no earth in his chart (just his ascendant and his busy sixth house), so i can see how that's such a challenge for him.

one particular challenge, i think, is our nodes. i am virgo north node (8th house) he is libra north node (2nd house). our south nodes/pastlives are *so* different.. i'm way too sensitive, he's too insensitive alot of the time. also, these are in opposing houses, and are the ruling houses of our respective IC/MCs. we have a lot of weird scorpio/taurus dichotomy energy between us..

oh and our moons.. mine's taurus, his is aries. not a good mix, i don't think!

anyway, that's just the little bit of understanding i've been able to wrap my head around. i'd really like some new perspectives, tho, cuz i feel like we're always struggling. things need to resolve somehow!

do you see anything else significant?

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 02, 2003 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
My program shows it's in Mountain daylight time at +6 hours. What's it supposed to be? My program adjusts them automatically. I don't know what time zone anything out of the US is in....and many IN the US for that matter! My program is set to adjust automatically if places don't use daylight savings time or if it was during war time or whatever. I'm not sure why it wouldn't this time. Do you have a lantern jaw?

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posted February 02, 2003 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
what's a lantern jaw?!

hm.. i just know that i've gotten lots of charts that come up as sag ascendant, and lots as cap ascendant. saskatchewan is the only province in canada that doesn't ever change time, and it seems that could be why i come up as sag asc sometimes, cuz some programmer folks don't seem to know that. i'm 98% sure i'm 8 degrees cap rising, as i've read both charts pretty thoroughly. also, my mom is *definately* pisces rising, not aries! we have to put her time ahead one hour too.

so you could try just typing in 6:59 am, or i think 6:10 am in winnipeg manitoba also comes up as 8 degrees cap.

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 05, 2003 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
It doesn't feel right to adjust your birth time. Instead of adjusting your birth time, the time zone is what needs to be adjusted.

A lantern jaw is a prominent, wide jaw. Brad Pitt and Jennifer Anniston both have lantern jaws.

Could you send me a pix? Send it to Auriel@Linda-Goodman.com . Please don't send it as an attachment. Copy it and paste it right on the message. I don't open anything with an attachment. Sorry, but there's a pathetic Soul out there who is in dire need of attention, so he's emailing everyone viruses and porn. Because of it, I don't want to take any chances with attachments.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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posted February 05, 2003 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
auriel ,

i'm laughing and am very confused as to why you want to know if i have a lantern jaw! is that a capricorn ascendant thing? actually, my boyfriend has a lantern jaw, i'd say. why do you ask?

and also curious why you want a picture..

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posted February 05, 2003 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
p.s. i do have a great big ole bum chin, tho!!

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 06, 2003 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, a lantern jaw is something every Cappy person has. I asked you to send the pix so I'll know for sure what your ASC is. Cappy and Sag are very different in appearance. I can tell what people are by looking at them. I even have a published article on it.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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posted February 06, 2003 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
well.. i'll look for a picture to send. i do know another capricorn ascendant, tho, and he had a little head, jaw included..

physically i do feel i look like a cross between my taurus moon, and my aquarian sun/merc/mars.

what would the characteristics of sag asc be?

and my boyfriend is virgo asc, and he has a huge jaw. is this typical?

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posted February 07, 2003 10:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
auriel, i found a picture on my boyfriend's computer that i can send you. how would you like me to do it?

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 07, 2003 11:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
sparkles,

Even if someone has Aries or Sag in them, which will narrow their jaw, they will still have the lantern jaw, if they are Cappy. It may not always be prominent, but it will be there.

To send the pix, you can paste it in the email and send it to me.

Sag is long and lean.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
~Upendra

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posted February 08, 2003 12:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
hi auriel, i just emailed you, but i CCed myself, and the image didn't show. i promise you i won't send you porn if you'll accept an attatchment from me! neither my boyfriend or i know how to get the image to show in the email. and he doesn't have any software that allows him to cut and paste into email..

do you have any other ideas?

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 08, 2003 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
Send it to my yahoo account. I'll send you that email address right now.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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posted February 08, 2003 12:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
i dug up my old online photo album and mailed the link to your email addresses. hope it works for you!

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 08, 2003 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
Yah, we were able to open it on Randall's computer. Mine is acting up a bit right now. Anyway, tell me what you are like in personality. Are you adventurous, into sports, and direct? Or are you on the serious side? Randall and I both said the same thing about your appearance and what you look like. I'm curious about personality though.

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posted February 08, 2003 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
hi auriel..

on the inside i'm adventurous.. that could be my venus in sagitarius, tho. but i'm *very* shy until i get to know someone quite well. i also had a childhood typical of that described for cap ascendant. my mom raised me alone, and she was very cold and ignored me. i had to be responsible for myself from early on. the cancer as my descendant suits me too; i can be very clingy and emotional in relationships. probably because that safe, nurturing emotional realm was unavailable to me as a child.

but i definately am not boisterous or overly social, unless i am very comfortable with someone (or drunk) . once i'm comfortable, i'm very chatty, but i think that's all my aquarius in my first house..

what else. hmm, when i was a kid every one thot i was much older than i was.. and now i'm starting to be told i look younger..

also, i've read into sag ascendant, and i don't agree with much of it. can't remember details right now, but my sun, merc and mars in the second house doesn't feel right. neither does moon in the 5th or venus conjunct ascendant. my chart with cap as ascendant really does feel *right* to me.. but i am up to being challenged on that!

anything else you want to know about my personality?

what did you and randall agree about regarding my appearance?

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 08, 2003 01:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
You look Cappy. That's really cool that you know yourS-ELF well enough to feel it. I just wanted to double check to make sure your personality matches.

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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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posted February 08, 2003 02:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
groovin!

i don't really think i have a lantern jaw (do you?).. i'm curious; what about me looks capricornian?

and do you have a link to your online article? i must say you have intruiged me!

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Auriel Langford
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posted February 08, 2003 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auriel Langford     Edit/Delete Message
Yep, you have a lantern jaw, but it's not prominent. It's definitely there though.

Even with Cappy rising, your second house is still loaded with your personal planets in Aquarius. You might want to read about them again and meditate on it.

Have a great weekend!


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To fall in Love, is to rise. . . .
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posted February 08, 2003 08:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
hmm.. what house system do you use? the one i use (and i don't even know the name of it! ..but it's the default one at www.astro.com) has my aquarian planets in my first house.

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posted February 08, 2003 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for weird purple sparkles     Edit/Delete Message
and do you have a link to your article? i'm really interested in learning more.

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