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MICA
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Posts: 20
From: bronx, ny
Registered: May 2003

posted June 02, 2003 10:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MICA     Edit/Delete Message
Any advice would be appreciated my sons father and I have been together off and on for 6 years now. I recently bought relationship signs and when comparing our charts was shocked by what I saw we have many love aspects. It even suggested that he is my twin soul and that we have spent many lifetimes together .... i was shocked because even though i know we both love one another ( there is no way we could be together with out loveing one another this long considering all the things (negative) we have done to one another.
he is very closed and secretive about everything ( at least thats the way I feel ) and the only way i get him to respond is with confrontation. he says he loves me but doesn't know if he can live with me and to be honest im getting to feel the same way. Im at the point that I feel even if he is my soul mate the heck with it this is too much aggravation to deal with and I just want some peace in my life. My son adores him as do my other children from a previous marriage but he is driving me crazy here is some chart info any insight would be appreciated because at this point Im ready to say forget about soul mates I would rather be alone
me november 18, 1970
sun scorpio
moon leo
mercury sag
venus scorpio
msrs libra
jupiter scorpio
staurn taurus
uranus libra
neptune sag
pluto virgo
rising leo

him
sun leo
moon virgo
mercury cancer
venus leo
mars cancer
jupiter virgo
saturn aries
uranus virgo
neptue scorpio
pluto virgo
estimated rising sign libra (sounds very close to him)
another huge difference between us is that he is egyptian and im born and raised in the bronx
to say our cultures are different is the understatement of the century
thanks
Mica

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Lunargirl
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Posts: 1513
From: south of utopia
Registered: Mar 2003

posted June 03, 2003 05:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunargirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Mica,

I don't know exactly how to respond to you -- you are obviously smart, have been through a lot, and are a proud woman (ALL woman, with those strong aspects! ). Without birthtimes, birthplaces and exact degrees, it's difficult to make more than general statements about the trends in a synastry (comparison of 2 charts). Plus, I have no idea what you've been through, so do take anything I say with a grain of salt. What I can see in very general terms is that your chart shows an attraction to those from other cultures and who have different attitudes, and that in all relationships you are engaged in getting down to the bottom of it, to probe and discuss and work things out on a more equal basis, but according to your own (high) standards. His chart shows pride, too, and an attraction to beauty, mystery, and imagination -- the romantic gesture, the unspoken powerful passionate moment, and a need for true love. You have shown him more about love by being who you are than he can ever express to you. However, he is not equipped to meet you verbally as a sparring partner, although I can imagine there have been some nasty comebacks, and while you get no satisfaction for your need to satisfy your suspicions (which is really your need to be reassured of his loyalty and love) -- he gets no relief from having his motives and dignity shredded by your confrontations. Your communication styles and emotional needs are very different, as I'm sure you know. Despite all this, there's a lot of potential for some lovely love aspects -- there's some heaven visible in there. I'm sure you recognized yourselves in Relationship Signs.

Also, I have read that a LeoMoon is a karmic placement for a soul that has incarnated to experience a Grand Love Affair, perhaps after several incarnations of having love denied, or denying love. Nobody ever said having a passionate twin soul relationship was easy. Also notice how nobody ever says that twin soul relationships come with a guarantee to last a lifetime -- so if he is the one, you doubly need to _understand_ what's going on between you, if you are about to let him go, so your lesson isn't wasted.

I suggest you get some specifics on the birth data, and check the exact aspects, maybe on a free site like Astro.com, that lets you get a few different mini-synastry interpretations, for insight into your charts. Also, there's a Knowflake here who has been doing some chart comparisons for free -- you could also email Lanny at lllog@yahoo.com and see if he's available.

On a short-term practical basis, I would focus on studying how your different communication styles affect the emotions and needs of the other person, from any perspective you can-- read the Venus&Mars books, whatever works for you -- because wherever you two have been, or are now, somebody else has been there before, and there is a huge amount of help out there if you truly seek to understand each other.

In the end, you are a perfect soul, and he is a perfect soul -- can you learn to understand each other's needs, and adapt to just loving the other person the way they are? Because I'm getting the sense that if the perpetual thunderstorm wasn't living in your living room, and you could let each other be, the two of you would be very happy in a very special way. Even if you have to live next door to each other in separate apartments!

Good luck, Mica,


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MICA
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Posts: 20
From: bronx, ny
Registered: May 2003

posted June 03, 2003 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MICA     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for replying Lunargirl alot of what you said fit pretty good we really do have a problem communicating. He is always telling me that I don't understand him but it certainly isn't for lack of trying. What you said (he gets no relief from having his motives and dignity shredded by your confrontations) is very true , respect is a big thing with him and he says I dont repect him I do I just don't show it the way he wants it shown Im not one to follow someone blindly and questioning him falls under his defintion of not repecting him to be the "man" in the relationship
im taking the venus course so Im hoping to gain more insight into that aspect of our relationship And If I can get an exact time for his birth( he won't tell me ) I will definitly have someone do a more in depth chart thanks again

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Sunmeadow Glades
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Posts: 253
From: Brisbane, QLD, Australia
Registered: Jan 2003

posted June 11, 2003 07:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sunmeadow Glades     Edit/Delete Message
Relationships can really suck at times, but if you are determined miracles can happen. But, the other side of the coin is that if you truly love someone let them go to spread their wings. If they come back to you, it was meant to be. If they don't, then you have given them the wonderful gift of love which will return to you in a shape of a fantastic soul willing to be your mate for life.

Love and Peace,
Sunmeadow Glades.

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lllog
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From: Springfield MO
Registered: Jun 2002

posted June 12, 2003 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lllog     Edit/Delete Message
Mica, if you would like, I'll do a relationship reading for you. If your interested, email me at LLLOG@yahoo.com with both of your birthdata (Date, Time, & Place).

Sometimes difficulties in our relationships are needed in order for us to be able to see our part in the problems.

Lanny
Lanny

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lioneye68
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Posts: 2836
From: Canada
Registered: Apr 2003

posted June 12, 2003 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
MICA, there's a whole thread dedicated to the subject of Leo & Scorpio as a couple in the Astrology forum. You should come and contribute your wisdom there. You've obviously been to heck and back in this relationship, so surely you've come to some understandings about it.

Anyway, I wanna say get out while you're still young, but what the heck do I know?
I'm certainly no expert either.

That being said, I do think that some people are better placed in our lives as friends, because it's too hard to love them any closer than that. It's very hard to blend when the basic properties are so different. Like oil and water.

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