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Topic: reflecting....
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clover
Knowflake Posts: 26
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted June 05, 2003 02:22 AM
 
hi,i was just reading posts on here and it started my mind wondering... i've been involved with a libra (oct. 6 1981 taurus rising) for over three years. about a year ago however i started liking someone who was alot older than me who was born on jan. 19, 1967 cancer rising. i love my libra very much and didn't even want to like the guy. for some reason though i couldn't stay away from him. well... to make a long story short, i ended up stoping talking to the cappy because it made me feel awful that i was hurting someone i really loved (my libra) even though it was just talking and not cheating. what i want to know if anyone can help me is why i did what i did. why did i hurt my libra by talking to this guy and liking him? why did i do it when i knew i was hurting two people? is there something in my chart that connects with this cappy guy that made me want to fulfill some sort of inescapable karma? i always ended up fighting with the cappy and rarely do with my libra. now, i know that astrology doesn't control free will and i'm not asking for anyone to give me some sort of answer that would justify anything i did. i was just wondering if there was something there that had to be worked out astrologically speaking. IP: Logged |
clover
Knowflake Posts: 26
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted June 05, 2003 02:23 AM
just realized i forgot to write down my dob. it's may 4th, 1982 cap. rising. IP: Logged |
clover
Knowflake Posts: 26
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted June 05, 2003 06:48 PM
just wondering if i posted this on the wrong forum (couldn't remember the word) because i seem to be the only one responding. i wasn't sure if i should put it under astrology or not.  IP: Logged |
Lunargirl
Knowflake Posts: 1513
From: south of utopia
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted June 07, 2003 02:25 AM
Hi clover,no, it's just that this Forum's Moderator is writing a book and not around, so these things take some time. Persistence pays off, however!  I have a couple questions: you said: quote:
why did i hurt my libra by talking to this guy and liking him?
My question to you is, _did_ you really hurt your Libra by talking to another man? That's a lot of power-- to either award to yourself, your Libra, or the Cappy. Sounds to me that what may have changed is your own regard of the Libra, or of yourself. Somebody is disappointing you at some level, for you to express this remorse. Your mind, heart and body are your own -- and nobody controls the coming and going of love. Why should you be punished? You said you were not cheating.
Attractions are part of life. I'll tell you a secret -- no matter how in love we are, they never really go away. Which is why a lot of married people fantasize about actors.  Love, soul connections, all these come and go in our lives even if we have a primary relationship. It is indeed normal to feel love and sexual feelings for two people at the same time. Quite probably something in your chart connected strongly with the Cappy -- even if not, he had something to teach you. Taurus and Cap are generally a good match, Earth signs in different elements. His CancerAsc/CapSun would have challenged and fascinated you (all that power, earthiness, and seeming nurturing/emotionality), and your Cap.Rising/Taurus Sun sure would have attracted him and had him identify with you --maybe making assumptions that you thought the way he did, hence arguments. Maybe what he had to teach, is that as much as you love the Libra, you're not ready to settle down yet. I think it's a fallacy to believe that we have only one soul connection in life -- we have Soul Mates/Twin Souls, and Twin Flames, plus numerous family, friend and work connections. Perhaps he was your Twin Flame-- thus the intense connection. You did nothing wrong-- you may have just been fulfilling karma with a Twin Flame -- and that's all good. Good luck,
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clover
Knowflake Posts: 26
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted June 07, 2003 02:46 AM
thank you for your answer. i do believe i hurt my libra. i hurt him because although i did not cheat on him physically, i sure did emotionally. i told my libra all about it, although he knew what was going on anyways. he told me it hurt, but he forgave me. i suppose what i learned from the whole experience is that yes, i loved the cappy, but i love and respect my libra enough to stay by his side and be faithful and now i understand that loving someone doesn't mean running away at the first attraction. like you said - there are bound to be others one is attracted to - even when in a serious relationship. when a person talks about the attraction to a differant person with the partner, the problem comes to light and is overcome. relationships take works and communication. something perhaps i should be doing right NOW since obviously i am still thinking about you know who at times. sigh... i just wish i could knock it off. damn my venus in pisces for making me think a person who cares nothing for me and treats me meanly could be my twin soul. and then i come on here and disguise my first post as - i feel so bad, help me understand why i did what i did - when it should really say - do you think, do you think, there is anyway he could be my twin soul? ugh.. i really make myself sick. and then i have the guts to say i love my libra. i don't deserve him...
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clover
Knowflake Posts: 26
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted June 07, 2003 02:58 AM
i suppose the question really is - why won't i let myself be happy? my libra makes me happy. why can't i just enjoy it? i think i answered that above - i don't deserve him - which perhaps is saying that i'm scared i can't be perfect so rush to mess it up, i don't love myself enough, i'm sill punishing myself for liking someone else because my libra didn't punish me at all and i kind of wish he would have, my libra pushed me away horribly before this all happened and this is my way at getting him back while getting closer but keeping an emotional distance. pick one. did i mention i have a moon in virgo that just loves to analyze everything i think and then put it into words and blab blab blab with my gemini mercury? IP: Logged |
Blue M
Knowflake Posts: 166
From: Illinois, USA
Registered: Aug 2002
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posted June 07, 2003 05:30 AM
Clover,You are quite interesting. You said something to the effect that your Venus in Pisces may have let you to believe because someone treats you meanly or cold you think they are right for you. Is that what someone who has a Venus in Pisces tend to do? I mean do they love to chase someone who is not available or cold? I am asking for my own reasons because recently I met a guy who Venus is in Pisces but he is an Aquarius. I too am also a Taurus and May 4th is also my birthday but I have a lot of fickle signs in my chart, like Gemini Rising and Venus in Gemini and Mars in Libra. I hate to hear you torture yourself for being human. It is natural to be attracted to someone other than your mate. But what makes us humane is choosing to act on every attraction or not. Sometimes one person gives you certain things like attention, intellectual stimulation or excitment and another persons gives you something entirely different, like security, love and feeling safe. That is why it is better to incorporate what we want from someone else into our own character. I know I loved my last boyfriend because he was ambitious, bold, adventureous and a go-getter. I was trying to live through him and now I am developing my own qualities and strengths. You do deserve your boyfriend, especially if he treats you kindly. Remember you are only human and don't be so hard on yourself.  Blue M IP: Logged |
1scorp
Knowflake Posts: 1235
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Registered: Feb 2003
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posted June 07, 2003 11:59 PM
Lunar, I dind't know you were a Taurus! I see that Gem coming out. Clover: Actually in "my" opinion it says a lot about what type of person you are for feeling guilty about hurting the Libra So many out there wouldn't care about someone else's feelings. I'm also wondering what about being treated coldly is attractive to you? I once knew a girl that was attracted to the same thing. IP: Logged |
clover
Knowflake Posts: 26
From: USA
Registered: Jul 2002
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posted June 08, 2003 02:05 AM
ahh... you guys misunderstode me on the being attracted to a mean, cold person. what i meant was that my venus makes it easy for me to see everyone i meet as a possible soulmate, even if they don't really care that much for me. i often seem to fall in love with dead people or characters from books. that was why i meant damn venus!, because i have such a wild fantasy romantic life that blocks out reality. (that he was really a jerk) the funny thing is that when i would see him in person, i wouldn't feel that much for him. i suppose it's because i built up this whole soulmate scenario in my head and he didn't act like what i thought he would. (mostly i communicated with him through writing which made it easy for me to fantisize about what he really meant and was feeling) it just makes me mad that sometimes i still get caught up in who i thought he was and think about him when in reality i have someone who comes the closest to all of my venus dreams and doesn't dissapoint me when the moon and stars aren't out and everything is dreamily romantic.  i hope that clears things up a little. i don't like mean men, but perhaps i block it out when they act mean.thanks for writing me back Blue M. it's always neat to find someone who has the same birthday as you. good luck with your Aquarius! IP: Logged |
Lunargirl
Knowflake Posts: 1513
From: south of utopia
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted June 10, 2003 11:06 AM
Heya, 1scorp... nope, Blue M is the Taurus (along with clover ) I'm still a Ram. clover, maybe all you need is an outlet for your PiscesVenus, if you think it gives you trouble. Clearly it demands to have expression, and now you've explained your relationship to the Cap more, you really were only "talking" to him, but there's an unexpressed need in you that drew you to him and is obviously still active -- I think what you've really been saying all along that you know it's not really about this particular guy, but you're caught up in this guilt. So why not look into activities associated with Venus in Pisces, and pursue something? Maybe by painting or taking photos or something artistic, you'll find yourself making yourself happier, something we can't get from another person anyway. cheers,
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1scorp
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Registered: Feb 2003
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posted June 10, 2003 01:01 PM
Or maybe I don't see the Gem!  Sorry.IP: Logged |
Lunargirl
Knowflake Posts: 1513
From: south of utopia
Registered: Mar 2003
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posted June 11, 2003 01:17 AM
Aww, 1scorp, now I feel bad... 'cause I do have a GemVenus, in fact!  cheers,
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