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hutchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 21, 2003 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hutchie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Guys,
HELP! I need some serious astrological intervention! I sent a letter to astrologer Eugenia Last. I forgot to include the full birth data of the guy I'm seeing. She proceded to do the analysis with incomplete info anyway, and the results were quite dire! She didn't have his birth place or time, and I think she assumed he was born where I was born. Check it out: http://www.eugenialast.com/letter.html (It's the last letter printed) I'm not in denial and refusing to take her advice - I just think she was irresponsible for giving this advice without full birth data. And her analysis is kind of freaking me out. I'm being abducted a Messiah!?! Crap! Can one of you folks help me out!? Me: January 28, 1974, Toronto, Ontario Canada, 11:50 PM Him: January 23, 1966 Birmingham, UK 10:30 AM. I would really appreciate some more insight into this...
Thanks!

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LoonyFish
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From: magical, mystical mountains of TN
Registered: Apr 2003

posted July 21, 2003 12:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoonyFish     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings hutchie!
Welcome to LindaLand!

I agree! That is some prediction!
I noticed that in your letter, as printed, there is no birthplace listed for you either. Did she edit that info out? Or did I miss it? Just curious.
I have to agree with you that an in-depth analysis cannot be made with incomplete information.
I am not very strong on compatibility readings myS-elf, but there are some wonderful people here in LindaLand who are.
You don't say how long you have been seeing this guy. Have you had any indications that you should be worried along these lines?

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"If immortality be untrue, it matters little whether anything else be true or not." - Buckle

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hutchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
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posted July 21, 2003 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hutchie     Edit/Delete Message
LoonyFish - Hee, that's a great name!
Thanks for responding. You can see why I'm freaking out! My personality subsumed by a Messianic figure - yikes! He's a bit full of himself, but a Messiah!
I've been friends with him for almost 2 years (we both have venus in aquarius!) and have been seeing each other for 6 months. I think the deception she might be seeing is the way we got together. He was casually seeing (read: sleeping with) my roomie. They stopped being bed buddies and we started seeing each other. We didn't tell my roomie, we were waiting for the right time...(it was a bit awkward, as we 3 were all friends who hung out a lot.) Anyway, she found out..bad news bears ensued... AND there's also the deception of us working together and keeping it a secret from our co-workers...Otherwise, we've established that we will be truthful and openly communicate what we are feeling and what's going on. I feel confident about that. Whew, that was a looong answer!

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hutchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
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posted July 21, 2003 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hutchie     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yeah - she did edit out my birth place (for reasons of privacy I guess!)

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Lunargirl
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From: south of utopia
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posted July 21, 2003 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunargirl     Edit/Delete Message
Why are you so critical of her when _you_ are the one who sent in incomplete info? It bugs me when people who are trying to help others for free get bashed for being unprofessional. That said, if I were you I would write her again for clarification -- maybe she won't bother to compare the charts again, but if she sees the actual birth data is very different from what she thought it was, maybe she can at least tell you whether to disregard the interpretation.

Incomplete data doesn't preclude being able to do a chart that has value -- the exact Moon sign, its angles and those of the inner planets (and asteroids, if you get into them) may not be accurate, but the rest of the planets move slowly enough that trends may be determined. I did basic comparison charts for years without complete birth data, and they contained much accurate info about the relationships in question. Since she had your accurate natal info, she could look at _your_ needs and perceptions and see how a guy of his type would affect you -- she also had your letter for a description of how the situation is already playing out. I'm not apologizing for her but I consider her a good astrologer, and I know she's intuitive -- maybe she took one look at _your_ chart and got the feeling you really needed a response. Who knows -- I'm not her keeper. And it's really totally up to you whether you accept or reject her advice!

I wouldn't get too stuck on her "Messiah" analogy -- it doesn't necessarily have to equal "cult leader" LOL! -- just that this guy is a very charismatic person in your life and that it's hard for you to be objective or tear yourself away because of the physical connection and losing yourself in him (some people call that sexual bliss). What is worth examining is what your friends and this astrologer say about the _cost_ to yourself of being with this guy -- the self-absorption, negativity, losing yourself, the deception.

I think I had that kind of connection once -- funny, another guy from England, also born in 1966, but a Virgo -- and it was very hard to break up, although we both understood it wasn't the right relationship for either of us, despite the seemingly mystical physical/spiritual connection at times. Neither of us were here in this life to explore that kind of connection for long-- we had other things to do, separately.

Good luck,
Lunargirl

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trillian
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posted July 21, 2003 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Hi hutchie...I really didn't see anything so alarmingly terrible in her assessment, I don't think she was literal when she said 'abducted.' And really, your description of your lover is much worse than hers!

Maybe part of the reason you're upset, is because she didn't give you the kind of answer you want to hear.

Good Luck!

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hutchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
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posted July 21, 2003 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hutchie     Edit/Delete Message
Good point, Lunargirl. I think I've read your responses before - you're the "brash and sassy" gal who speaks her mind, aren't you!? Hee. So yeah, I AM the one who sent incomplete data. Plus, like Trillian said, I did set it up using a pretty negative tone! And, I too, was wondering if her astro approach was more intuitive than not. Thanks for your imput, guys. Must go now and complete my indoctrination...must assimilate...bleep bleep.

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LoonyFish
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From: magical, mystical mountains of TN
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posted July 21, 2003 02:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LoonyFish     Edit/Delete Message
Greetings ALL!

Lunargirl - I absolutely agree with you re: bashing free advice. And that you can derive much insight from an incomplete chart!
That is why I said "in-depth analysis".
Sometimes what appears to be meaningful, positively or negatively, is mitigated by accurate information, don't you think? At least that has been the case on some charts I've done.

Trillian - I think hutchie is particularly questioning the idea of losing self-esteem, self confidence and personality to this guy. That does sound painful to me. I must say, you make a very good point that hutchie paints a darker picture of him than Ms. Last does!

Hutchie - Do you think perhaps Trillian hit on the problem? You don't like the results because it wasn't what you wanted to hear?
He may be a great guy, but I have to ask...
if his relationship with your roomie was over, why the need for secrecy? And why such a scene when she discovered your secret? Sorry, don't mean to offend, but IMHO that isn't the best start for an open, honest relationship.

Just my two cents.

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"If immortality be untrue, it matters little whether anything else be true or not." - Buckle

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hutchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
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posted July 21, 2003 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hutchie     Edit/Delete Message
Yes. Tesitfy, LoonyFish! My main concern IS about losing my identity etc. And the deception we started the relationship with IS negative. If I read this, I would definitely think, 'This girl is in denial." Hmmm...I am going to the countryside, where there are duck families waging heroic battles for survival against bully raccoons gangs. I will take this time to shoo the raccoons away with twigs and to reflect on what the hell is going on in my life!

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Lunargirl
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From: south of utopia
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posted July 21, 2003 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunargirl     Edit/Delete Message
hey, hutchie -- I hope that I didn't come across as too cranky with you -- there's this trend working through my life right now, where in my relationships people really need to be responsible for the parts that belong to them -- oops, you might have gotten some overflow!

Because bashing people who bash free-advice-givers bugs me too!

Wishing you and the ducks a peaceful reflective time,
peace,
Lunargirl

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hutchie
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From: Toronto, Ontario Canada
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posted July 21, 2003 03:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for hutchie     Edit/Delete Message
Point well taken about free-advice bashing. I will use this forum to publicly apologize!

Sorry, Eugenia Last. You still rock!

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