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Orange Blossom
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From: Leeds, Yorkshire, England
Registered: Jan 2003

posted July 24, 2003 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Orange Blossom     Edit/Delete Message
Hello LindaLand,
I am an Aquarian girl and in 1997 I fell in love for the first time with a Pisces boy. We were never in a proper relationship, basically I just was completely in love with him, and it was not recipricated, sometimes we would have sex but kissing and cuddling were not really available from him. We only saw each other for about six months and eventually I could take the pain no longer- of constantly having to remember that he was not in love with me...

For the past 3 & a half years I have been in a wonderful relationship full of warmth trust love and shared ideals with a capricorn boy who I really love and really loves me at a very deep level.

On Sunday I went to see the Pisces for the first time in 6 years, my feelings were the same. He has an uncontrolable effect on me, and just makes me shake, nobody has ever had this effect on me.

However in terms of our beliefs and way of life, he is everything I cannot stand and disagree with.

He said i could stay in the upstairs bedroom. I went down to his room and then he came up to the bedroom. We nearly had sex but it was just the same as before- he did not look at me or kiss me, then he said no it wasn't right, and I left...I completely humiliated myself- i acted asif i have learnt nothing in the last 6 years. And i have hurt my Capricorn wizard terribly. I feel so gutted and so confused.

My Venus is in Pisces and I just do not understandwhy I have thought of this boy- the pisces seemingingly everyday sinceI met him.
Please help, I am in such a mess.
Orange Blossom

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Mercy
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From: Of Elvenkind
Registered: Jul 2002

posted July 24, 2003 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mercy     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Blossom!

It tears my heart when I read your words. Especially for Cappy boyfriend. Did you talk about this to him in honesty? Finding out together why this happend or why this is still affecting you so much seems the best thing to do yet it might not work in theory. Gosh Blossom, I feel for you. And why you still feel this way about Pisces only you know, don't you? Please nurture your bond with Cappy, it sounds só special and pure!

Please take care!

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lovelyleo
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From: SoCal
Registered: Jul 2003

posted July 26, 2003 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyleo     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Miss OrangeBlossom, I know what you mean! I too was in a relationship with a pisces... 12 years ago now... and I still remember him. Yes, it was extremely painful because he never reciprocated my strong feelings. It was mostly physical, and tragic...
Anyway, I am a leo, happily in loove with my Capricorn for 9 years. We have much in common! You see, I made the mistake of seeing another as well. My cappy found out about it and was deeply saddened. However, we have worked through this (it took about a year and a half). I have since given him ablsolutely NO reason to mistrust me. I learned my lesson...learned it well. Capricorn is proud. Not scornful at all, and not one to hold an undeserved grudge. I believe if you sincerely prove your devotion he will forgive. Maybe not forget, but he sure won't bring it up again! You may have to rehash things a few times, but it's been my experience that cap won't pull it out for ammo. Know what I mean?
As for that captivating pisces... I understand completely. I saw this one 3 and a half years ago. I was at work. I dropped what I was doing and just went up to him to share a big, silent hug. I felt like I was home. But, like going back to the house where you grew up when it is empty and not yours any more.
This pisces is not yours. The cappy is. Tend to him well. You learned from the first... to better serve and enjoy the second... hence reaping benefits for yourself-- not the torture of loving one who isn't loving you the same.
Since I don't know the whole story, and am Very biased by personal experience, I may be completely wrong. But this is what I see.
Sending you a blessing--- lovelyleo

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monami
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From: india
Registered: Aug 2003

posted August 05, 2003 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for monami     Edit/Delete Message
dear blossom,
there is a very important saying... dont weep coz it is over, smile coz it happened.
i am an aries girl engaged to a piscean man and to me he means the world.
one thing you must remember dear that stars incline, they do not compel...
the problem doesnot lie in his not reciprocating anything to u, the problem lies in your not being able to forget him. Being an aquarian, trust me blossom, you wont ever be able to forget your first love. but u dont need to either... you are so more compatible with your capricorn better half (i dont use the term boy friend) becoz of your piscean ascendant...
remember one thing blossom, i tell u this coz we are women ... its a different thing to share your past with him. but it is different to share your present inclinations coz he might not understand. lets not risk another heartbreak.
dont ever think that you are driven by duality coz you are not geminian... you are just being true to your impulses... dont ever feel guilty for this... it doesnot make you any less lovable becoz of what you feel.feelings are never in our hands... only our actions are ...
being a hindu i can tell u a secret mantra of our religion... "karmanya vadhika raste, ma faleshu kadachara". it means that you do ur actions, let divinity formulate the consequences...
as for now, just feel good that you are capable of such strong love which goes beyond time or need for reciprocation... trust me pisceans are one of the most warm persons in the world but only sometimes things dont work out (even sun has his eclipse)... dont forget him, remember him as your victory becoz i know u are a strong woman... if not physical material worldwise, then on a metaphysical level...
if u love someone let him go...if he comes back he is all yours, if he doesnot he was never yours...
dont, at least, consider physical intimacy as negative factor. god has made our body to feel what you have felt...so u are being true to HIM.
love,
monami.

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Randall
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posted August 05, 2003 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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"Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark

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dorkus_malorkus
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From: Alturas, California USA
Registered: Jun 2003

posted August 06, 2003 10:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dorkus_malorkus     Edit/Delete Message
Orange Blossom, I can only say this: you must follow your heart. Only you know what is right for YOU. Reading your words tore me apart for I can only wish the best for such a seemingly nice person as yourself. I do not know the whole story, but from what you have said you seem to have a special relationship with this Cappy fellow. While you may feel an uncontrollable lust for the Piscean, you may never be happy with him on an emotional and/or spiritual level. I have never been in love as you desribe it, I am still waiting. I cannot speak from experience, but I trust you are a smart and beautiful individual and you will make the right decision.

Welcome monami

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Lunargirl
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From: south of utopia
Registered: Mar 2003

posted August 07, 2003 03:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lunargirl     Edit/Delete Message
monami, welcome! Your tender caring words move my heart.

I hope Orange Blossom wanders back here, and reads everyone's words. It sounds to me as if her Venus in Pisces resonates to the Pisces boy -- he must embody a part of Orange Blossom with which she longs to reconnect, a forgotten piece of her own soul that she sees reflected in him.

Lunargirl

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sthenri
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From: New England US
Registered: May 2003

posted August 07, 2003 09:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I knew a Pisces who did the same thing. Not big on kissing and cuddling but very sexual. It was very frustrating because being a Taurus I like the cuddling part. If you like cuddling and you are not getting it, you will not be happy later. My Pisces had a lot of trouble trusting himself and was empty and bankrupt emotionally. He did not trust others. Don't let him make you feel guilty for his problems. You can't fix him. He can't fix you either. Don't see him and when you start to think of him give yourself about 20 seconds and then think of something else.

ASk yourself, do you like being in pain? Does the Pisces man? Sometimes people do, when they need life lessons. But are you the one to give it to him? Let him learn from another woman and get involved in her life. He will learn a painful lesson that he needs to learn that will help him become a stronger man. Pleasure will just weaken him, so look forward to the future, don't look behind.

Caps can be quiet sometimes, try talking to him about how you feel without going into details. Discuss your emotions, I am happy...sad..confused...

Natasha

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Blue M
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From: Illinois, USA
Registered: Aug 2002

posted August 12, 2003 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Blue M     Edit/Delete Message
Sthenri (Natasha)

I was just curious about he advice you had given Orange Blossom. You said pleasure will weaken the unaffectionate Pisces she cares about. Why do you think pleasure will weaken him? I truly hate pain and sometimes it is unbearable for me to go through emotional pain I mean there is nothing quite equal to not being able to get away from that much pain but I only feel weaker not stronger when I encounter it.

With each defeat I feel like I am further away from happiness.

Blue M

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sthenri
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From: New England US
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posted August 12, 2003 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Blue M, I am a Taurus too, so maybe what I said touched you.

Pisces, the one I was with, was weakened by temptation of pleasure. It made him upset and it showed. That upset me. Being a Taurus I pick up on other's emotional pain easily and I feel it too. Since my emotions are strong and deep I do not like always to be around someone who is in pain. His mind and his body were torn in two, his body wanted to say yes, but his mind no. Most men are like that sometimes, some women too.

It was the first time I had seen that on a man's face. I have Pallas sextile Mars which means I can pick up what people mean by their actions and read faces. The body automatically goes where my mind goes, I feel at ease that way. I feel whole. In some cultures men are taught to separate their body needs from what they feel and that tears them apart. I can't accept that because it's wrong for me to feel that way. My emotions and body have to be the same or else I feel destructive.

I thought he was being self destructive in his thoughts and I picked that up from him by his face. Sometimes it's temporary and I make it permanent and that's wrong. But I just can't watch someone torture themselves, sometimes it's just for my benefit but I am not an actress.

I know now, that I love Pisces and water signs as friends but they have the power to disturb my feelings too much and the signals they send are so spread out, that I feel like a bouncing ball.
Upside down and inside out.
I know it was wrong to end my relationship with the Pisces looking back I could have stayed his friend but at the time I felt he was too negative. Now I know how to handle it, but I think Taurus matures slowly in the emotional world.

My water sign friends are great now, but I make sure to get some distance because then I know their moods are with other people and they are making decisions on their own. They need to independent and think and feel on their own. I check in every once in a while but I do not try to understand anymore.

The French say "All understood, all forgiven" but James Joyce said "All understood, nothing forgiven", which I like better. The less I know about the internal moods and conflicts and guilts and values that I do not share the better. I would rather forgive and accept than love or hate.

I guess I am not into deep emotions that I hold on to forever but that's because they turn into values for me. Taurus is a very emotional sign but fragile that way, it's important to stay positive.

Personally I do better in day to day relationships with air signs, or those with water placements other places than the Sun, but I always make sure to get a break in the day from everyone.

The pisces I knew had serious issues about love, and sex, and his role in my life. He was my first real lover and so hated that. I don't know why, he felt he couldn't commit so he would just hang around and feel bad.

Natasha

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