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From: Belgrade, Yugoslavia
Registered: Aug 2003

posted September 14, 2003 01:37 PM         

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I am sorry it took me so long to do your synastry chart, but it takes some time to do the reading of two people, because it is necessary to calculate 3 or 4 different charts, in order to be as precise as possible. But now I am finished and I guess you are eager to hear (read) what I have to say. I have done only 3 different charts and took a quick look at your directions, progressions and transits in order to determine what it is you two want out of life in the near future. I analyzed the natal chart of your partner, so I could figure out what he was like.
First of all: I think, that deep down, your partner is a gentle and kind-hearted person. His Sun is in the XIIth house (dreamer) and his Moon conjuncts his Neptune (dreamer) Venus conjuncts Jupiter and most of the planets are in "soft" signs, so I do not think you will have to fear any agression, beating or other dangerous problem in your friendship or relationship. Most of the planets are focused in the upper part of his chart - this usually means that the person is a self-made man or woman, who devoted a lot of time in education, reading, physical exercise or spending just time alone soul-searching. The Sun in the XIth shows that he has a few (square Saturn) well chosen friends who are probably older. He has not a lot of goals, but when deciding to do something, this is usually well planed.
His Venus is in Cancer in the XIIth. I have been studying astrology for 10 years now and this is a typical position of the Venus where the man has relationships with women who are either married or already have children. The XIIth house indicates that it will be a secret for some time. The house that is ruled by Venus shows us where love will be coming from. His XIth house is ruled by Venus, so I guess that he will meet his love through some sort of communicational group - a place where a lot of people are hanging around and it will start on a friendly base. Jupiter is here, so he is happy, when in love and the most important thing for him in a relationship is to be happy together.
Uranus is in his Vth, which means he tends to be 'electric' while dating and this can cause sudden break-ups. Uranus is connected with all electric things, mainly the computer, so it is no surprise to me you have meet through the Internet. The major problem in his life is his family. His IVth house combines 3 signs -Virgo, Libra and Scorpio - indicating a family secret or something that will be hidden from him a long time. Pluto is here and this usually means something that, in his eyes, was a family tragedy; a divorce, the death of a parent (I think his mother is not alive any more, or somewhere far from him. The Sun is squared by Saturn - father that is strict and alone and the Moon conjuncts the Neptune - mother that is idealized, that is not real). This is quite a burden to him and it will take some time to overcome it. Mars/Saturn in the IInd shows that he will be always struggling for money and trying to find ways to earn more, but also spending it a lot when in his pocket! Man with this chart define their sexual identity with the amount of their money, so it could happen that financial frustrations will lead to sexual frustrations with a long abstinence period. The second house is connected with our own security level; so whenever he is in lack of money he will feel insecure and I do not know any person who enjoys intimacy with a head full of troubles. I do not know where he works, but it should be a place with a lot of (strange) people, it seems almost like a hospital, health (maybe even mental) institution. Or artistic. Sagittarius shows that it has something to do with foreign countries or music, movies etc. Please tell me what his occupation is. I was never good with this one.
I purely doubt that he had a serious relationship before you. He is not very secure about this masculinity, making him too shy to approach girls or women. The Moon that conjuncts Neptune has one great difficult - people with this aspect are never sure how other people feel or what they want from them. Flirting is interpreted as pure friendship, a friendship as love etc. This leads to major disappointments in the emotional sphere of the life and tends to produce people that hide their true feelings rather well. Uranus and Neptune were marching through his VIIth house (and Neptune just left) making him nervous and insecure about the fact what HE wants out of a relationship. This is not a good start to sign the marital contract, not for a lasting commitment. Uranus tends to break up everything. Neptune tends to lie, hide or alter the truth. Maybe he had a relationship, bet I am sure that it ended with tears and heartbreak.
I have looked at his primary directions, and I am not sure you are the great love of his life. His Sun will be crossing over his Venus by the age he is 30. The Moon will be crossing over his Desc. which indicates a marriage or a new relationship. Uranus will have left the Moon a year ago (he will be 29) indicating the break-up of a relationship and his urge for freedom. But this needs not to be.
His progressed Moon is in Scorpio in his Vth - he wants a sexual, passionate and deep relationship. And he wants it NOW! This means his feeling are more deep through this period and that there will be quite some soul-revealing. The aspects with his natal planets are, more or less, good and he is ready for a serious and committing relationship. Saturn passing over Venus could show the same thing, just with a cooler head. The progressed Moon has a T-square with some heavy planets. This means he will be more possessive and demanding than usual, quarrels are in order and it will be problematic to convince him that something is not the way he wants or sees it. He will be stubborn and cranky, but this is just a phase - let it pass! After a while, he will turn back to normal. As the VIIth house is not involved I guess you will be dating quite some time, perhaps living together, but not getting married.
But what about you? Well, your Venus in Leo in the VIIth shows you tend to be a little bit dramatic and superficial, but warm, when it comes to love. Venus in the VIIth shows an early marriage and your Moon in Gemini in the Vth house shows you MUST have children already. Mercury in the Vth in Cancer shows you love them a lot and that you will be a good mother. The VIth house cusp is connected to that story, so I guess every time somebody asks you what your occupation is you tend to answer "I am a mother" I am so sorry to be rude, but I guess your first relationship was with a man who was already married or getting a divorce, but it didn't turn out the way you wanted it to be. Perhaps you were the second wife, and he was planning to leave his first wife, which really never happened. So you left with your kids (I would guess boys, and very lively kids if I may ad! But fairly good children). I do not know when you have met your partner, but if it was during the last year - Bingo! Jupiter was crossing through your VIIth house making a conjunction with your Venus. This is usually the time we meet very significant people in our lives, that will alter the further going of it. One more thing: during the time you were around 28, your directional Mars crossed over your natal Venus and the VIIth house. This means a passionate and great love, but with a lots of trouble. The square with Saturn indicates a break-up. The transit Saturn over your Moon indicates that you were very depressed and lonely afterwords. You did not feel like going into another relationship ever! Around the year 2001 your heartache got worse and you probably felt horrible. Your directional Sun will cross over your natal Venus by the time you are 38. You will meet a very significant man then (the Sun is the ruler of your VIIth house) and by that time you should be out of a relationship. Furthermore, your natal Venus will be crossing over your Pluto which ALWAYS means a fatal relationship. This should be your greatest love of your life and a permanent bond. I know why you are in love now. Uranus is in your first house indicating a wish for changes and new things. The progressed Sun and Moon make a conjunction i Leo, Mars is there too. This shows the wish for something new and fresh in your emotional and sexual life. Mars indicates a younger a passionate man. But Saturn is in Taurus and will make it difficult for this relationship and wish for a happy and jolly life to sustain and in order to maintain it, you will have to put extra effort and strength into everything. By the way, Saturn is transiting over your Vth house and will stay here until July 2004. This is not a good period for love or conceiving - and there will be problems with your kids too, who will be more moody and silent than usual. Saturn is passing over your Sun right now and there is no chance you are going to get married until the end of this year, but this will help you to see more clearly what you want from the man you are with and out of a relationship. Than Saturn is going to transit over your Mars - this is one of the worse aspects in astrology and even the best of us have troubles to control the situation. Mars is the ruler of your IIIrd house and I strongly recommend avoiding cars or any transportation if possible. You should not travel anywhere near and stay away from small roads. One good thing: if you are overweight (and many Cancer fellows are) this is a great time to start a diet. Control your breasts as you could have some trouble with them and take care of your health. The Saturn through the VIth house indicates you will be having trouble with your working place, changing it or loosing your current job.
I am not sure your relationship with your new partner will last "until death do us apart", but it will be a rewarding experience. Looking at your synastry chart, I have noticed an equal amount of good and bad aspects, which should provide a relationship that is neither too smooth, nor too boring. You will be the one shining and growing this bond, feeling appreciated and accepted, while he may feel over-shadowed sometimes, making it more difficult to relax all the time. This does not spell doom for a relationship, it just may raise some basic issues around family and lifestyle between you, which may need discussion. But it takes very little from your partner to get you to go dewy-eyed and into a cuddly mood; you are quite fond of each other, and how much time you will spend in each others arms dreaming warm thoughts under a romantic Moon..... Your partner has that little something which can get you hot no matter what. Somehow when your partner is around they can give you that extra confidence that is needed to really go for it, and the energy it requires as well; life will never be boring when you are around your partner. My guess is that he will be the one initiating living together, while you would like to maintain your independence. It shows that he presents you both as a united front to the world, and support each other in your dealings with others, while you tend to be more separate. The worse thing is that neither feels that the partner does really approve of career moves, or maybe does not even provide the freedom to follow them at all. There is no way this relationship is going to last forever, as there are no serious plans for the future. And if, it is not a good combination for trying to start a family business. The strongest bond is his Jupiter/Venus (happiness and love) conjunctions your Mercury/Mars/Sun (a forceful, independent thinker), and his Saturn/Mars conjunction (discipline) with your Venus (pleasure and love) which makes the relationship important:
Sun/Mercury (IIIrd and XIIth, houses of conscious and subconscious communication) aspect makes the mental spark. This indicates that you enjoy the way your partner talks, walks and thinks, finding him fun to be with and inspiring to talk to and perhaps showing him the field of literature or other fields worth further exploring. The Mercury/Venus conjunction and square just confirms the fact you have the same taste, values and wishes. You will always respect him and his ideas and will find it easy to talk to him, although there will be times when you feel he just does not listen enough or is too rational, sometimes even reacting more intellectual to your emotional needs than you wish. But this is a stimulating aspect for mutual exploring and appreciating other peoples values and tastes and getting to know new stuff, especially socially. This does not indicate major disagreements, just minor quarrels whether to paint the baby's room in blue or pink or to punish the kids when they come home from a party too late. This aspect makes a good parental team. And you will give him the extra shot of energy. The Sun/Jupiter conjunctions shows 'the mentor and the guru', this indicates you will be good as advisers to each other. This is an one the most favorable aspects in the synastry, making the couple "legally" together, which means you will function as a couple, not just two individuals living together, respecting each other needs for space ... more or less. It indicates mutual respect, bringing happiness and growth, especially in the spiritual and philosophical directions. He will be the one who brings optimism into your relationship. Consider yourself lucky for having this aspect in your chart, we astrologers often call it "the savior", as it tends to neutralize other bad or heavy aspects, because both sides recognize the others good intentions and efforts and will always look past the minor or major flaws in order to make this relationship going. This can indicate financial prosperity and most definitely indicates a fertile marriage. The Jupiter/Mercury aspect confirms it too, it indicates that, at times, you will be like student and teacher, while you will share your intellectual ideas and opinions, he will share his experience. This chart is good for couples who like traveling together, studying new things, reading, learning or visiting courses etc. and who like a good laugh. There will be a lot of humor. All of the above mentioned aspects are connected to your Vth house, indicating he will share a lot of time and fun with your children, trying to teach them something new and being a good parent or at least a good teacher and tutor. Their education will play a important role in his life: nothing is too expensive, no school will be too good for your kids. This is a good sign of a parent who understands his/hers child through difficult times and through major changes in their life (puberty, first love, school problems, drugs or alcohol etc.) The Mars/Jupiter conjunction shows even a little intellectual provocation and some ideological differences, which could result in long discussions about the matter of principles or morality and you will have to agree that you sometimes disagree.
The Sun/Pluto square and Sun/Pluto trine (IVth and Ith house, personality and home) show that there will be very good and very bad times, making the relationship an intense one, bringing deep psychological transformation to both of you and digging out the roots of your problems and getting insight into the dissented corners of your personality. This will have a therapeutic effect on both of you, but to be honest: your partner will be able to handle it better and at times this may even frighten you. Do not fight will-battles as he will win, he has more strength to face his deepest fears than you do and can be dangerous when utterly provoked (I will explain this later on). This shows a fatal relationship and needless to say, indicates great passion and sexual attraction between the two of you. As the nodes are implicated too, my guess is that this is a love from the past (previous life) and that that was the reason why you fell in love. To be honest, the Nodes are quite implicated and could mean you were family in one of your previous lives, which explains why you two understand each other so good. But your past-life experiences will have a greater benefit for the relationship, as you tend to use them, subconsciously, more wisely and they are more of a spiritual matter. His past-life experiences are mainly connected to his (negative) marriages and that is the fact why he has a fear from bonding. The double Uranus trine shows excitement and changes (and the Internet) and that you will have the chance for a self-renewal in during the entire relationship. One interesting thing: this is the usual aspect between two people in a relationship where there is an age or cultural difference. But be careful! The wider Saturn/Sun conjunction can show that, at times, your strict and maybe dogmatic views can make him feel restricted and not appreciated enough. He can feel clumsy in the areas of your life, where you are the master, so this aspect can awake the parental role in you and I would strongly advise never to forget that you are his partner, not his mother! You could end up being the 'bad' guy and he the 'good' one. Although not a very happy aspect, it is one that is often found in the charts of couples, as it provides permanence and stability and the sense of security even through VERY rough and difficult times, or as often said "for better or for worse". The Mercury/Saturn conjunction confirms this - do not demand so much from your partner to "speak up" or "think straight" and stop questioning and checking everything twice, your practical advises will help him more than enough. As I mentioned before, try to give each other as much free space as possible, mentally as physically! The Neptune/Sun opposition just confirms it: don't be surprised if you find out that he had total unrealistic expectations from you and that you are a bit too dreamy. This aspect shows that you will have to sacrifice something dear in order to make this relationship work. There will always be a sense of longing and discontent and there is nothing you can do about - use this aspect for spiritual growth. It is funny that the husband/wife planets are combined with Neptune (it is called the fall from the pedestal!): make sure that you know what you expect from a domestic life and parental, as man/woman role in the first place. The aspect is much stronger than the Moon/Sun conjunction (which I will mention later on) and could lead to tears and disappointments when living together, as the worse case scenario could indicate a secret he is keeping from you about his emotional status; but most of the time it indicates the base for a solid friendship. The key here is to develop trust in each other.
One more thing, his Sun squares your Nodes, this means that during the relationship his personal beneficial self-growth can confront with the overall path of the relationship leading to cross-roads. This means that what is good for him, must not be good for the entire relationship. During the time of major reorientation you could feel loosing him, as you tend to stick to your 'old' partner, rather then the 'new' one. But the close Venus/Sun conjunction (Vth house, children and happiness) shows that this will be, above all, a heart-warming, loving and fruitful relationship. He will always feel a strong admiration and respect and you might even feel like kids when together. Anyway, you will bring warmth and love in his heart. This is the aspect that is often found in the synastry chart of married couples or people that are living together, making the pair look like they were "made for each other". And you have a Venus/Jupiter "romance or the fruits of love" trine - weaker, but present - which indicates happiness and bliss and, just like the other Jupiter aspects, blemishes difficult aspects in your chart, making the couple trying to find new and sophisticated ways to pamper the other and make them even more happy and trying to avoid conflicts, appreciating each others support and respect. You probably look like the ideal life companion and will set the moral tone of this bond, making him grow as a person by expanding horizons with travel and cultural interests or - at least! - enjoying out-door activities. At the same time, the Venus/Saturn conjunction (IInd house belongings) is present and preventing you both spoiling or indulging too much - or spending money - enhancing the sense of integrity, responsibility, reliability and above all loyalty. This could make the relationship too cold, serious and aloof at times, but teaching the couple valuable lessons of love: patience, maturity, self-restraint, long-term commitment and fidelity. The double Venus/Uranus square (love shocks, love's hard knocks!) just confirms this. It is often found in the chart of married couples, but it does not indicate nor does it provide a lasting relationship, but will make your love exalted, ecstatic and more than romantic, making them feel like the sky is the only limit often loosing ground (Jupiter/Uranus), but always capable of cheering each other up and recreating a positive vision of the future (Jupiter/Uranus), making new contacts (Jupiter/Nodes), how intense and exhausting it may be (Pluto/Jupiter). This also indicates that the couple will be separated a long period during the relationship; a long-distance relationship, travel or journeys to-and-fro could be an integral element of the relationship and both of you will bring an element of the exotic into your life - foreign climes, language or beliefs perhaps. Being together may even mean living at the fringe of society. Do not let your individual needs for freedom and friendship jeopardize the relationship you have, there is a great difference between "I need a little space" and "I would rather be with someone else and make you unhappy"! Whatever may happen, this is the typical "Better to have loved and lost, than never to have loved!" aspect. And although your Venus is in Leo (passion, theater, love) and his in Cancer (home, family, children) and you tend to express love in a different way or simply have different styles, you have a Mars/Venus conjunctions vice-versa, which is the strongest indicator of a passionate sex life. While the Mars/Moon conjunction shows the sexual side of a relationship in a reproductive way, the Venus/Mars aspect shows the pure erotic, and animal if I may add, side of the sex life. A good aspect shows a great deal of passion and sometimes lust or jealousy and is the prime indicator of a lasting relationship where all needs are satisfied! This is just another indicator of a strong, magnetic contact and indicates that sparks will fly in the bed and will stimulate his urge to conquer you in bed! (Asc and Desc are aspected by the Marses) As there are two aspects, there will be a equal amount of the active/passive - or male/female - role in the bedroom area. The Uranus/Mars trine shows that you are willing to experiment in the bedroom area (cyber-sex f.e.) and that routine does nothing for you and your partner. Fights and explosions of anger could be considered erotic too, making the sex life more intense.
Speaking of the Moons: of course there are other important aspects of your chart, but analyzing charts of couples I found that the most important factor for a relationship to work are the position of the Moons; your opposite, which is as good as it is bad. You probably have a need, deep down, to socialize, make a contact with others and live in the world of ideas, while he tends to do the same thing, just on a deeper and perhaps more philosophical and self-sufficient level. This is a sign of a great emotional bond, as the XIIth house (deepest feelings) and Xth (goals) are involved, showing that you just tend to react to the outer atmosphere around very differently. Just keep in mind that this is the sign of great communications between partners and the sign of good compatibility. You will give the ideas, he will be speculating more broadly about their consequences.
You have a weaker Moon/Sun conjunction, which indicates soul mates, or at least a couple that will function well together. The fact that it is his Sun (man/husband) and your Moon (woman/wife) means that you will function well on a basic level as man and woman, sharing the same view on haw a man and how a woman should act in a relationship or marriage, sharing mutual support; he tending to be the independent leader and you satisfied with being the adjusted and leaded, making this a very happy bond indeed. And there is one more loving aspect (my favorite) the Moon/Venus trine, or as I call it - cuddled up! This is a very gentle and warm and GOOD aspect in a synastry chart, evoking a strong bond, tenderness and affection, emotional support and security. Home and family will be a major factor in your life and you know that your partner will make a good parent - caring and tolerant. But this can lead to a great sense of belonging, perhaps too much, and could result with over-dependency or smoothening, but I doubt it, as other aspects are strong. Your Moon sextile with his Mars shows domestic activity, making your home life turbulent and with a lots of changes; the opposition with his Neptune shows that this relationship could lead to emotional mists - every time you feel down you tend to confide in your partner, he understands, but does not approve. Do not feel confused every time you open your heart. Try to be more specific about the way you feel. His talent for empathizing may simply encourage you to indulge in negative feelings or martyrdom or feeling victimized. Try to make him maintain emotional boundaries, as he will feel responsible for your emotional health. And that is the same thing I would recommend vice-versa, as he his Moon has a similar bad aspect with your Neptune. But nevertheless, it will open the emotional side of your bond to a world of fantasy and illusions and is one of the strongest indicators of a lasting friendship, developing emotional trust and compassion, if handled properly and over-dependency, if misused. The Venus/Neptune trine (the Siren song) just confirms it: many of the qualities you possess yourself and tend to idealize in your partner, could be fine in theory but impossible to put into practice, as this is the "ideal love" and for most of the mortals difficult to achieve, but creating a lot of gentleness, soft feelings and magical romance, illusions and glamor, which will be difficult for other people to comprehend.
But the strong Pluto aspects will help developing the good side of the previous aspect, leading to a karmic, deep emotional bond growth and maturity and profound understanding; he will force you to exorcise old ghosts from the past. This contacts emphasizes deep and passionate issues exploring hidden areas of each other's soul, pushing aside social and sexual taboos and other forbidden fruits to reach the core of emotional experience, as a result of a profound and deep love from the previous life. This could lead to a ... rough sex life removing all emotional barriers and sexual insecurity, transforming you into a new person. Those are difficult aspects to handle, as Pluto tends to be rather demanding and strong, causing battles of the will, power plays in the bedroom and life-or-death situations. Divert the urge to control your partner and he will understand the roots of his own jealousy and anxiety. On of the functions of this relationship is to reassess what is truly worth wile in your life, never letting yourself to be bought or sold, or humiliated by love or sex. There is also a strong Mars/Saturn square and I am sorry to say that this is the aspect that requires great care and caution. Every time your partner gets frustrated or angry, it will result in long periods without sex, demanding patience and time to solve the problems from work and outside, which were brought into the bedroom. Keep conflicts out of the bedroom (Pluto-Mars), as battles of the wills could end with one of you feeling jealous, worthless and humiliated or to major fights and beatings. Always investigate the spiritual side of your relationship and not each others hypnotic powers as this will lead to self-destruction. Furthermore, the Nodes are here too, making the sense of belonging and fate, love and destiny even stronger. That is why many astrologers call this aspects the "emotional spring-cleaning", which will mark the entire relationship, making this, to say it once again, one of the most rewarding experiences in your life that you should enjoy while it lasts, as neither the predictions, the composite chart (Venus no aspect with the Sun; Sun square Moon, no planets in the VIIth house, Asc 29th degree Aries/Libra, Moon/Neptune opposition, square Nodes, Venus/Uranus a strong square), nor the equidistant chart (Moon square Sun square Nodes, Moon no aspect with Venus and Mars no aspect with the Sun, Sun square Jupiter/ trine Uranus) indicates a lasting relationship without extra effort and trouble ... perhaps even too much for your own taste. It is your choice!

Wish you all the love in the world,
Zoka

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From: penrith,australia
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posted September 14, 2003 09:02 PM         

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WOW.....zoka thank you so much for taking the time to do such an involved reading for me..i really appreciate it..u were so spot on with many things...we r living in different countries...and face many obstacles to be together..i do have children..i have 5 boys and one girl..your reading has invoked many feelings...happiness thru to sadness..i love this man deeply...and dream of growing old with him..but...one question..u said him for marraige at 30...and for me to meet significant man at 38..maybe this is crazy thinking..is it possible we wont be together till then?we havent met in person...ohh and when is it i should avoid transportation and small roads??

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posted September 15, 2003 06:24 AM         

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It is possible that you will see each other in a few years, as he is in another country. No matter what happens, by the time you are 38 you will meet the fatal and true love of your life. It will be deep and passionate and transforming as you always wanted to. I am not sure it will be him, but I have said that he will make, whatever happens, a major impact on your life. As Uranus is quite involved it could indicate that you will have an on-line relationship, without seeing each other ... what a pitty if this should happen!

Avoid all sorts of travel, as Pluto transits over you IXth house (travel) and Saturn is passing over the ruler of your III (cars), for another 6 months.

Zoka

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posted September 15, 2003 06:26 AM         

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zoka, I just want to say wow! I think it's wonderful that you dedicate so much time to helping people here with their questions.

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posted October 09, 2003 02:14 PM         

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Lots of great astrological insight from Zoka's post.

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posted October 09, 2003 04:33 PM         

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Zoka, you are a gem

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