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Aphrodite
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posted October 03, 2003 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Hi EveryOne

Does anyone have experiences or observations regarding relationships (all types, not just romantic ones) between Aries and Libra?

I have a long-time friend from high school who is a Libra Sun, Libra rising and Aries Moon. Right now, we are not getting along. The locus is that she wants to have an ideal friendship where it is okay to be p****d off at each other and do mean things, yet still be friends. She also stated that in interpersonal communications, you must always be aware of the things you say and what impact they have on another person.

I said to her that I don't want either of us to be p****d off. I am very uncomfortable with this type of energy given free reign under a notion of "friend."

As for the interpersonal communication, I said to her my personal view was people can say whatever they want and we always have a choice as to how to react to these things. (I align along the lines of the book, The Four Agreements, by Don Miguel Ruiz.) I also said that it's not always possible to know every story that goes on inside the mind of another individual, or what exactly it was that set them off.

She is under the impression that the speaker is responsible for another's reaction. I hold the opposite view, we are responsible for what we do and can only do our best when it comes to predicting another person's reaction. The responsibility for another's actions are out of our hands.

Anyhow, I have already decided to not continue this friendship. Yet, am very interested in reading observations regarding these signs.

Thank you!

Love

Aphrodite

P.S. "P****d off" is the term she used.

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sthenri
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posted October 03, 2003 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Aphrodite it sounds like your friend is a little oversensitive and you are right that it's not easy to have a friendship with that kind of energy. If it doesn't help you or give you energy that it is very draining. Libras like to argue anyway and do not always see the point, they want to be right. I deal with a lot. They can feel out of control and want to manage and control the conversation just to get the last word and make sure they are back in neutral. None of us like to be shook up though,

You are right we have the right to control our reactions because we are not all here to react to another persons arguments but at the same time we can speak our mind without criticizing.

A friend is one who allows you to speak without making you feel you have to watch every word out of your mouth, then your creative self expression would end.

Your friend needs space, but she or he probably doesn't like anyone to get too close to change his or her mind about things.

I have a friend like that who is a triple Gemini and I leave him alone for extended periods of time and then he is back on track.

Natasha
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silverbells
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posted October 03, 2003 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
Libra female and Aries male. The Aries male in question did not listen and would never acknowledge my intelligence as being equal. He would never listen to what I had to say and that is about the most horrendus thing ever. He would concentrate on only the first things I said (as he had no patience to listen to the rest of it) and then pronounce everything that I said as ridiculous and ignorant if he had an opposing opinion. And he was so indiscreet, it was embarrasing. And he would yell all of the time when he was mad, mad for any reason, and he would get mad all of time.
He did ALWAYS compliment me though; I mean above and beyond anything I have ever had and I could tell that he would be showing me off which was nice, and he was very sweet when he was not being a jerk and he was very noble in his thinking and his actions. He just wouldn't listen!! But in all fairness some of those qualities might have been intensified by his extreme lack of maturity. When it was good it was very, very good-and when it was bad it was horrid. That should be the quote used in the Aries-Libra chapter in Love Signs. We had really good chemistry though and I think that we could even almost read each other minds or vibes. I would talk to him about it but he would never listen and the things that he would say when he got angry got worse and worse and we could never resolve the issue because he would hardly ever listen and when he would he would be unwilling to address his faults in the situation. He could be such a boor sometimes.


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Oxychick
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posted October 04, 2003 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Oxychick     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Aphrodite,

For years, I have been witness to a never-ending war between two karmic lovers, a Libra (female) and an Aries (male). Libra wavers in her affections. I believe she truly loves him, beyond all others, but has yet to be happy with herself and therefore pushes him away almost cyclically (their last parting was of the Aries' volition, and I think it's tearing Libra up inside). The two of them were capable of hurling the most insulting, disastrous words at each other and always forgiving in the end-seems to be something oppositions can do quite well. Libra will very often mistreat her lovers (and friends, at least when it becomes lovers vs. friends). Libra always expects them to come right back because it was only an expression of her anger. Sounds like your Libra friend.

I think Natasha is right. The Libra in this situation kept striving to be very close with her friends and lovers, and her feeling seem to chnage when she reaches that closeness.

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silverbells
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posted October 04, 2003 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for silverbells     Edit/Delete Message
Oxychick I do agree with your last statement about a Libra who strives for closeness and then who seems to change when that is "acheived". I do that a lot but I don't know why.
But I don't know Oxychick, that p*****-offedness seems like it might be the Aries Moon coming through because though I often seem to snub my friends and I like alot of alone time and don't like when "friends" call me all of the time (as I am not a phone person; I think that most Libras share that trait)I would never want anger to be the normal state of the relationship. It would be icky and icky, for want of a better word; It would probably drive me to distraction.
Oh, I am a Libra Scorpio Moon and Sag. rising.
I personally think that Libras are VERY misunderstood and they demand everyone to give their very best all of the time (at least I do). When others don't give what know they can give it makes me rather combative.
Have you done her chart? Perhaps there is some conflict there? Also, maybe the way she is raised or some childhood experiences has something to do with her views of an ideal friendship.

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StarLover33
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posted October 05, 2003 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarLover33     Edit/Delete Message
All I know is that they're either very successful or very unsuccessful and sometimes waver torward each extreme. That goes for all opposing relationships in my opinion. It depends on the maturity of the individuals involved.

-StarLover

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sthenri
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posted October 06, 2003 10:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I knew one Libra woman married to an Aries male for over 40 years and they got along because he had a hearing aid he would turn down. Libras sure like to talk and she would nag him all the time. He was a little stubborn but he would always answer with I love you's and you're wonderful which she would accept for a while. But then she would get paranoid he had turned down the hearing aid again. She never asked him directly about it though and he ignored any comments about it. They had a lot of land and he would work on it and suddenly get up for no reason in a conversation and leave.

She would get upset but everyone would point out that he couldn't hear her anyway so she accepted that. She baked and cooked a lot and he was pretty rigid about when he wanted dinner and the way he wanted things around the house. The toliet paper for example had to be put on the roll correctly and she let him have his way that way. But she did all the talking. I am sure the hearing aid turned down helped, but he always worked a lot and she devoted a lot of time to her sons.

When she died, he went a year later, they were both in their 80's. They loved eachother very much, but when they went they didn't have much money, she spent it all on furnishings for their place, she decorated everything with yellow ruffles, the walls, the cushions, it was spectacular. I know another older Libra that did this with Lilac and Purple, it was photographable. She even had an altar to her late husband done in Purple and Lilac with candles. You have to admit those Libras are elegant.

I think it can work but only if the Aries is very tolerant and the Libra has a lot to do with family, and friends. Aries need to do things, Libra likes relationships but more than one. Libras don't like to be alone and I think he was punishing her a little so that he wouldn't hear her when they were alone together. They were still the happiest couple I have seen in a while. He used to stare at her like she was a rainbow even though she was huge and say, she's just wonderful with that dazed look, especially when he was eating her cake or pie.

They were pretty cute but I always got sick from her cooking, I never told her though.
Personally I would turn my hearing aid down too, she would tell him when to smile, when to turn on the tv, I mean really bossy. She was over involved with her sons and they never really grew up, they borrowed money a lot too which irked the Aries. I think it can be good, two Libras can be too easy going especially with money. Unless one is born with money it's hard to hold on to it. The Libras I know are not rich but like to live moderately well and an Aries is hard worker.

Natasha

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thesag
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posted October 06, 2003 11:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thesag     Edit/Delete Message
Aphrodite, I thought you were describing my Double Aries buddy. She has that same type "p***ed" off thing but it's only on her terms. She can be mad and not want to associate with me until she feels like it. I day I returned her behavior she went nuts!

It damaged our friendship a good bit. She and her family moved away about a year ago and she has called and told me she misses the only real friend she had ever had, me.

For me friendship is unconditional in both directions. I can completely understand your not wanting to continue the friendship. This must happen a lot with your friend?

I decided to maintain my friendship but not on her terms. I told her this and we have remained friends. I visit her and we talk by email daily. BUT, distance has a LOT to do with remaining friends. I can't say I'd want her to move back.

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