posted October 15, 2003 06:05 PM         

Starflower, Saggies aren't the easiest to get to commit at all. We are not known for being backed into a corner or made to do anything. It's just not in our nature. He also has a very emotional moon, tying him to a freedom loving Sun. His Sun Squares his moon and causes internal strife at times. Maybe his basic personality cannot understand his emotional needs at this time.

I read somewhere that the Sagittarius with a Pisces moon is one of the hardest Sag Sun / Moon combinations to understand. They are prone to being dreamy, loving at one time and running the next.

Now, I think both of you have Pluto in Virgo (You said Mars in Cappy trining Pluto). That can cause some tension for the Sag, especially since it is Squaring his Sun while opposing his moon. He may feel you are trying to control him or change him in some way. The guy I am with has the same thing, his Pluto Squares my Sun and Venus while opposing my mars. We deal with it, but there are some power struggles.

Where is your Saturn and his Saturn and what about Mercury.

I am also confused about your Mars placements: Okay, I found your mars placements on another thread. Well, right off you can also see there is a difference between your emotional sign (moon) and how you love (venus) and get love (mars) Your Mars and Venus oppose your moon. You might want to take a look at how that might affect your way of looking at love and relationships. I found these summaries concerning your moon: Venus & Mars opposition:

Moon opposed Venus
The opposition between the Moon and Venus shows a degree of conflict in relationships no matter how hard you try to please. And you do try hard to please. You may be generous in your praise of others, but somehow your sincerity is called into question. You may become emotionally over-sensitive, and make special efforts to avoid disapproval despite your need for acceptance. When you expect too much from those you are close to, you are often disappointed. As a substitute for emotional satisfaction, you are somewhat self-indulgent. You display a weakness for comforts and luxuries. Your money conditions can cause problems if not carefully controlled. Sexual excesses can be a product of your feelings of being unloved.

Moon opposed Mars
The opposition between the Moon and Mars shows continuous crises in relationships because it is so hard for you to compromise. You get into disputes about the most insignificant matters. Your personality is sparkling and outgoing, but feelings are intense, and you are quick to strike back when criticized. You meet people easily and eagerly. This eagerness often gets you involved with individual with whom you have little in common. Permanent relationships are difficult for you to cultivate. This is partly because of the individuals to whom you are attracted, and in part because you become so overbearing and dominating. You become emotionally pushy and intolerant of anyone who refuses to submit to your demands. In business you meet competition well, but have difficulty dealing with authority. You have trouble following the rules.

His Venus and Mars also oppose your moon.
Here is what I found:

Moon opposite or square Venus: These two people have conflicting desires and needs. Often the Moon persons need for security in is conflict with the Venus person's desire to socialize. The Moon person may seem too clingy to the Venus person and the Moon person often feels that the Venus person is insensitive.

Moon opposite or square Mars: This aspect brings hostility, posturing, defensiveness and arguments between two people. There often isn't much that these two people will agree on. The Moon individual is constantly on guard against the Mars individual. The Mars person is bothered by the Moon person's constant nagging.

Knowing the aspects helps you become more aware of what you need to deal with personally and what you need to address as a couple.

Can you list your signs / planets?

Thanks,

posted October 16, 2003 01:20 AM         

Anyone have some insight?

posted October 16, 2003 06:11 AM         

better bad aspects than no aspects at all! I know it is easier to maintain a relationship that has cute conjunctions and trines, but just imagine a cardinal T-square with a lot of 'cute' aspects ... BORING! You can not take 5 good aspects and say: "This relationship will be a bliss" or 5 bad ones and say: "This will be a dissaster!" We make bonds with people to help them improve themselves, grow, mature and not to have pure fun with us! And we want transformation out of a relationship too. A relationship without any heavy aspects will be a stress, too much of the good ones - too easy. You need to check the whole chart and the most precize aspects and than you will have a clue what is going on. One bad aspect or one good will not say much.

The Venus/Saturn is one of the most favorable aspects (in my eyes) in a synastry chart: it teaches the couple that love is not only about candles, moonlight and roses, but tears, pain and sorrow. It is one of the most difficult aspects to handle, as it can make the relationship look like a duty. There is the problem that Venus projects the parental role onto Saturn. And Venus is fun a playing and Saturn is not. If you have a natal Venus/Saturn aspect you will deal with this aspect easier - you already know that love has its ugly side - and this synastry aspect just triggered it. If you have too much air in your chart (not stabil) or too much water (too moody), this could be the aspect that makes the foundation of your bond solid. I also know that this aspect, the Saturn/Venus square is called "Love kard knock's" so ... I guess it will require time to learn to handle it and once you have mastered the 'Saturn' task, there will be nothing that can break the bond.