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castalia
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posted October 23, 2003 05:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for castalia     Edit/Delete Message
I asked this question over in Astrology, but now I'm thinking it may have been more appropriate under this topic. So...

Is there a way to recover from
1. flirting with someone else in front of an Aries guy

2. being too pushy or aggressive in pursuit of an Aries man

we are new friends, he doesn't see a long-term future, though at the same time he can see himself falling for me if we tried the dating thing. i think he sounds confused, he says he's not and just wishes he could explain it better.

I'm a Cancer...just trying to understand

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posted October 23, 2003 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
Hi I happened to be on the phone with an Aries man while I was reading this and I asked him if he could ever recover from someone he was seeing flirting with someone else in front of him...well his answer wasn't very promising. He said no way. We went on to have a discussion/debate about that kind of stuff- see I'm Aquarius and he is Aries and we couldn't match up. I couldn't understand dismissing someone from your life because of that, he said he knew it sounded arrogant but if someone did that they didn't deserve to be with him. I was on a different page. I think even if two people don't turn out to be compatible as lovers they can still be friends, and friends don't mind if the other flirts. Well anywho I wish you luck, please don't worry, if he says he can see himself falling for you he's still got a thing for you

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castalia
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posted October 24, 2003 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castalia     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks so much for the reply and the small little vote of confidence or support at the end. Made me smile. I'm just going to play it out and see what happens. Truly if we aren't to be lovers, we will certainly be friends...we definitely have that base there now. Take care!

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posted October 24, 2003 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
You have a great attitude And I am sure that is part of what he likes about you

Keep us posted on how it goes, I never buy into any rules or ways that people say because ANYTHING can happen and there are exceptions to many things. you take care too

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sana
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posted October 29, 2003 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sana     Edit/Delete Message
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castalia
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posted October 31, 2003 02:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castalia     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Sana! I appreciate the response. I am going to try to ignore the flirting issue and hope that he doesn't bring it up again. I do try to impress upon him how great of a catch I am and that he shouldn't let me slip by. He said he feels like instinct is telling him it isn't a long-term thing with me, but the more we talk, the closer we become. He says still though that even though he might be falling for me, it doesn't mean he sees a future...but he doesn't know that for sure. I think he is confused, he doesn't. Anyway, thanks again for the advice. It is helpful!

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posted October 31, 2003 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, the things women don't know about men. Especially fire sign men Especially Aries and Leo men

You really think you can sweet talk your way out of flirting with another man in our presence? Or that if you ignore the issue, we have such a short attention span we'll forget it? That's a little insulting, don't you think?

Your Aries guy is not typical of the sign. I don't know any Aries, men or women who are uncertain or indecisive as you've painted this Aries to be. Perhaps a Pisces rising. But the Aries people I know go right after whatever they want---period.

The Aries and Leo men I know would have embarrassed you in a most public way and in a way you would never forget, while at the same time summoning up the biggest, blackest felt tip marker they could summon in their minds to draw a line through your name.

It goes like this; let's see, this girl flirts openly in front of my face while she's out with me!! Wonder how far she goes with other guys when I'm not around?

If flirting with other guys while you're out with someone else is part of your dating etiquette, my advice is to not be out with Aries or Leo men---and add Scorpio to that list as well.

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posted October 31, 2003 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
jwhop to all you said.

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castalia
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posted October 31, 2003 06:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for castalia     Edit/Delete Message
Just to save face for myself...if it's possible. We were out together at a club, but there had been very little indication at that point that he was interested in me, it was pretty evident he was much more interested in the woman he was going to have breakfast with the next morning. A friend of his was also at the club and I spent more time hanging out and talking to his friend because he continued to run off and go dancing by himself or off to listen to music. I think at the point we were walking out and this happened, I was beyond the point of feeling like we had anything possible between us because he hadn't made it clear. It became more apparent after I flirted with someone else (because it ****** him off) that he was at least somewhat interested in me. Since that situation, we have developed a fairly strong friendship, but I would still like to try for more...I know better than to think he has forgotten about it...and we have actually talked about it, probably ad nauseum, so it hasn't been just tossed back into the past. I guess from what you are saying though, if I were what he wanted, he would make it (or have made it) very clear and gone right out after me. Ah well...I am too stubborn and determined to give up just yet. Thanks for the response though...I am enjoying the different insight and views very much!

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posted October 31, 2003 08:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for theFajita3     Edit/Delete Message
You are very sweet castalia to be open to opinions even when it might sometimes be something other than what you want to hear is very mature


I am building a friendship kind of with the man I mentioned before I was on the phone with. He hints at wanting more but his ego is just too big and I just won't go there with him. We are great friends and really getting close, but I don't see myself wanting anything further. At least as friends, his ego and pushiness doesn't bother me.

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posted November 01, 2003 09:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hi castalia

After hearing the whole story, (I hope ), I'm of a different opinion.

Well, well, this guy takes you out, leaves you in the company of his friend while he's off dancing and after telling you how much he's looking forward to breakfast with another woman and then has the nerve to be ticked when you flirt with another guy.

Lucky for him you aren't an Aries or Leo woman castalia. When he finally got back to your table, he would have returned to find an Aries or Leo woman out dancing with someone else or lots of someone else's and having a hell of a good time without him. If he made the mistake of complaining about it, he would have gotten his head handed to him

So, the question I have is, are you working towards sainthood? Why are you so understanding about his utter rudeness, lack of good manners, judgment and insensitivity? And he's playing the injured party? He needs a swift kick somewhere it will do the most good. That poor little boy needs some wising up.

Bottom line castalia, this guy is either divorced from reality or running a game on you. Don't forget, you and Aries are square sun signs. If he has more planets in Aries or Libra and/or you have more in Cancer or Capricorn, you're going to square each other all over the place at least by sign. Not an easy relationship, with hard feelings and friction all around. Worth checking out before you shoulder the responsibility of trying to reform what appears to be a jerk----from the Leo perspective.

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sthenri
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posted November 01, 2003 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I think being a Cancer you are pretty sensitive, but the flirting may not have been that much of a flirtation really. You could have spoken to someone and later it was argued about and decided it was a flirtation.

I have been in those kinds of arguments before, where everything is blown out of proportion, and distorted and you are told you did this or that and you agree to save face. Cancers aren't overly flirty, friendly and warm maybe but possibly you were just talking to someone, and he jumped all over that? and then the rest came up later as a justification for touchy feelings?

If a man is that jumpy and sensitive now, I don't care if it's because he's an Aries or not, get over it. I mean I don't think you meant harm, and you don't owe him anything other than the friendship you have right now. You have to care about people it's true, but not too much, just as much as you feel comfortable with.

Natasha
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delta
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posted November 01, 2003 10:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for delta     Edit/Delete Message
"The Aries and Leo men I know would have embarrassed you in a most public way and in a way you would never forget, while at the same time summoning up the biggest, blackest felt tip marker they could summon in their minds to draw a line through your name."

oh my god this is so true it hurts! great description... always thought aries and leo men could be a bit childish in this way

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posted November 02, 2003 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I have found Leo to be more forgiving than Aries, and Aries are that way if they have confirmation from a friend that they do not like you. Leos are a lot more forgiving but they do have a punishing streak, same with leo risings. Leo is a very spiritual sign, and not many people see that. They have a lot of faith and when it's shattered they can come undone. Leos, Aries, and Sag believe strongly in what they cannot see, and some very spiritual people are strong in fire.

If that faith is broken the best way to deal with it is to apologize right away and start paying attention to the Leo 24/7, then get in good with his friends and family. If the family doesn't sense some warmth, the Leo will not be happy. Fire signs are big on family most of the time for better or worse. The worst thing you can do is insult his family or put him down in front of his family or friends. That's a big no no.

I am the same with my fire rising, I will take a lot but not in front of family or friends, or if I think there is a show going on to make me feel guilty or hurt for fun. I do not like dramatics where people I love are concerned. Leos and Aries are very concerned about the public image they present, if you destroy that, it can be earth shattering, not all of them want the limelight, but they do want to control it somewhat.

Air signs like to control communication, but fire signs like to control the drama, they don't always like it, they just need to know what it's about.

Look at O.J. Simpson and his wife Nicole, he has a Leo rising, and she was a Taurus. Leo risings I have noticed are very punishing when angry. I have seen Leo risings, and Leos punish family members by cutting them off for years. Fire signs have strong principles, but they can be won over with lots of sincere, genuine, honest affection, and apologies right away. No pride is allowed on either side, making up is crucial. If you cannot do that, then it's best to find a less proud lover. It's not easy, worth it in the end, but not easy at the start, fire signs also do not trust as easily because especially Aries men are taken advantage of over and over again. If he has Venus in Pisces, he may be a martyr himself or look for one.

I feel bad for my Aries friends because they get so walked over, and then they lash out without knowing who to trust hurting those closest. It's not easy being an Aries, or knowing one but an Aries will be the truest, friend you have ever known, if you are honest and let him or her into your life. Leos and Aries have been the truest, most honest friends in my life, and saved me from many bad situations, (and gotten me into a few), but I wouldn't turn my back on one who trusted me simply because of hurt pride. I have done that, been there, and it stinks.

Natasha
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posted November 02, 2003 11:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Well sthenri, you seem to have nailed it pretty closely. Leo is all about faith and in relationships, trust. To become just a person they used to know, betray their trust.

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castalia
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posted November 03, 2003 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castalia     Edit/Delete Message
All right, so all this talk about rising signs, squared signs, etc. has got me curious. I understand he and I are squared signs (only because jwhop said so *grin*) but I don't know how to tell what my rising sign is. I have had my chart done and it is sitting on my lap. I tried to do some research and found that rising sign corresponds to the first house. Correct? If that is the case I have three signs in my first house, but they all appear to be Cancer. Does this seem right? In the secound house (what does this house mean?) I have one Cancer and two Leos. I just thought I'd throw this out there, even though it's not really under the right topic.

But now, I will respond to what's been written above. Doubtful I'm going for sainthood, half the time I feel like I'm too nice and other times that I'm too selfish and should just be able to like, love, or care for people without feeling like I should get something in return. Jwhop's take on the whole situation made me smile and laugh. Yes, I have considered that he is inconsiderate and a jerk...on the other hand, I think he was truly confused that weekend and was struggling. More of the story...he had flown out to visit me (one of those online deals) after only talking a few weeks (no one give me crap on this *smile*) and he had just recently taken a "step back" from dating this gal in my same city. She wasn't supposed to be in town that weekend, but ended up being and that is who he went to have breakfast with. I tried to do the big thing and tell him if that is what he felt he needed to do, then he needed to go see her because I wasn't about to stand in the way of something when I know firsthand how difficult it is to find someone you connect with. Up until she called (about 24 hours after he arrived) things were great. After the phone conversation with her (just before we went to the club) things started going downhill. At breakfast he and her called it off completely and he and I decided we both over-reacted. Anyway, this is really getting to be a long story...sheesh! Guess I should just finish it now. HaHa! So he goes back to his city, we continue to talk often and I think things are good, I start to really like him and think this could work, when I bring the subject up of visiting him, he tells me I'm not everything he wants in a mate. Of course I think I'm the greatest, so this ****** me off. I told him he was retarded (yeah, I know, not my best move, but I was irritated, frustrated, and hurt). Anyway, I am sure that just cinched it for him thinking we aren't meant for the long haul. I think he has downplayed his behaviors and actions the weekend he was here, but whatever. Last week he told me he was falling for me and I was like, uhm...what happened to the "we have no future" deal...he just said just because he is falling for me doesn't mean that now he sees a future. I'm thinking the boy sounds confused, but he seems to think he's not. So, anyway, I have been struggling with trying to get past feeling more for him than just friends, but it's tough because I am jealous and so anytime we start to talk about new people we are talking to, I get annoyed and it is entirely too evident in my voice and words. For some reason I have this idea that if he and I hang out again in person he will fall for me, but I am not sure if at this point it is really what I want or if I just want to be right and get what I want (the conquest idea). Wow...this may all be a bit too honest and too much information. Ah well...I'm not deleting it now...took way too long to type.

Thanks again for the responses and insight.
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posted November 03, 2003 01:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Hi castalia

Look for the sign your Asc or Ascendant is in. That is the rising sign---just another name for the same thing.

Or, you could go to www.astro.com, enter your birth info for a horoscope which will list which signs your planets are in, with their degrees and your rising sign--Asc too.

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castalia
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posted November 03, 2003 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castalia     Edit/Delete Message
Uhm, I tried...and I give up. Here's what I got from astro.com

planet sign degree house motion
Sun Cancer 00°41'39 01 direct
Moon Leo 02°51'35 02 direct
Mercury Cancer 12°53'25 01 retrograde
Venus Taurus 25°53'32 12 direct
Mars Leo 08°15'05 02 direct
Jupiter Pisces 17°29'54 10 direct
Saturn Cancer 07°17'15 01 direct
Uranus Libra 23°41'54 05 retrograde
Neptune Sag 07°38'03 06 retrograde
Pluto Libra 04°04'52 04 direct
True Node Sag 19°24'26 06 retrograde

On the chart I got printed out from a shop here, it says next to Ascendant - Elem = Air, +/- = Pos, Trp = Mut, House = 1st, Ru = Mercury

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castalia
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posted November 03, 2003 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for castalia     Edit/Delete Message
I already put this over under the astrology topic, but figured since I am also having the discussion here and have gotten more detailed on this one, that I would provide the birth information I got tonight. Jwhop...do we have the rising signs you mentioned in an earlier post that would make us square all over the place?

female (me) born in Phoenix, AZ on June 22, 1974 at 5:05am

male (him) born in Gulfport, MS on March 21, 1976 at 11:13am

THANKS! *smile*

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posted November 03, 2003 10:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jwhop     Edit/Delete Message
Castalia, your rising sign--Asc--Ascendant is Gemini.

You
Sun Cancer 0.42
Moon Leo 2.49
Mercury Cancer 12.53 R
Venus Taurus 25.54
Mars Leo 8.15
Jupiter Pisces 17.30
Saturn Cancer 7.17
Uranus Libra 23.41 R
Neptune Sagittarius 7.38 R
Pluto Libra 4.06
Ascendant Gemini 26.24

Him
Sun Aries 1.13
Moon Sagittarius 17.50
Mercury Pisces 20.45
Venus Pisces 8.14
Mars Cancer 1.24
Jupiter Aries 28.56
Saturn Cancer 26.03 R
Uranus Scorpio 6.27 R
Neptune Sagittarius 13.58 R
Pluto Libra 10.37 R
Ascendant Cancer 2.56

Synastry
Sun Square Sun 0.29
Sun Trine Moon 2.14
Sun Opposition Pluto 2.53
Sun Trine VI 1.07
Sun Sextile XII 1.07
Sun Conjunction South Node 1.13
Moon Square Jupiter 0.20
Moon Trine III 1.34
Moon Square IV 0.30
Moon Sextile IX 1.34
Moon Square Midheaven 0.30
Mercury Conjunction Jupiter 3.15
Mercury Opposition IV 3.26
Mercury Conjunction Midheaven
Venus Trine Saturn 0.57
Venus Square Neptune 0.37
Venus Trine Ascendant 3.23
Mars Conjunction Sun 0.40
Mars Square Pluto 2.42
Mars Conjunction Ascendant 3.28
Mars Opposition VII 3.28
Mars Square South Node 1.24
Jupiter Sextile Sun 1.48
Jupiter Square II 2.38
Jupiter Square VIII 2.38
Saturn Sextile Venus 0.07
Saturn Square Uranus 2.22
Saturn Conjunction II 0.14
Saturn Opposition VIII 0.14
Saturn Square Chiron 2.12
Saturn Trine South Node 3.57
Uranus Square Mars 1.50
Uranus Trine Saturn 0.51
Uranus Trine Ascendant 1.35
Uranus Sextile VII 1.35
Uranus Square Fortune 1.07
Pluto Square Mercury 2.15
Ascendant Conjunction Sun 2.12
Ascendant Conjunction Saturn 4.21
Ascendant Square Pluto 1.10
Ascendant Conjunction Ascendant 1.55
Ascendant Opposition VII 1.55
Ascendant Square South Node 2.56

Linda Goodman's Relationship Signs will tell you how the aspects you share with the Aries are likely to play out in a relationship.

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ltx
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posted November 18, 2003 01:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ltx     Edit/Delete Message
I've just posted a new topic regarding Aries men and Pisces Women and saw your questions regarding an Aries man - is your relationship still going on ? Any advice you can give a sensitive little fish like me in your experience re: Aries man?

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