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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted November 05, 2003 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Hey all you fellow Knowflakes,
I am in a bit of dilemma, and while it is only a potential "friendship" right now, it has other romantic potential. So, there's this Cappy guy that I met on the bus to my job back on September 2. I was stressed at the time becasue I had already missed my new student ceremony at my university, and was heading home in defeat. Anyway, we talked, and I was quite intrigued by his manner and intelligent mind. I hoped, since we lived in the same general area, that perhaps I'd see him again. I did a few weeks later, and the vibe was definitely deepening. He asked for my number, and I gave it to him, but he never called it. When we met again, we talked easily, and a stranger on the bus asked if we were friends. The Cap turned to me and "Well, are we?". Of course, since I am a Virgo with strong Leo influences who doesn't take the term "friend" very lightly (I've been known to wait until I know someone a year before I invite them to my b-day celebration), I answered, "we're good aquaintances". I've seen him often since then, and while the vibe is still intense and playful, he casually made reference recently to a girlfriend. When querried longer about it, he claims to have only met this girl a month ago. I could have sworn there was a mutual attraction, mentally and physically going on, but now I'm confused. I spoke with him two days ago, and sorta asked why he took my number, since he never called me for any reason, and he said, "Well, you have my number, why didn't you call me?". That would have been so completely not my style, to be the agressor.
So, what I'm really asking is could someone look at our charts to help me figure out him and what's going on?
My info:
09/12/1985 Grosse Pointe, MI 8:23 PM
His info:
01/01/1984 Troy, MI 12:08 AM
Thanks .

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We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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posted November 07, 2003 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Bringing it to the top...

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posted November 07, 2003 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message

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posted January 05, 2004 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
to the top....

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trillian
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posted January 05, 2004 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
Any progress with him, VAA?

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posted January 05, 2004 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Well, trill....I haven't seen him since I transfered malls in my quest for a better/closer job, since we met on the bus I rode to work but I am in the process of registering to take a class at the same campus of a community college that I know he attends (oh, of course I didn't choose that particular campus on on the off-chance that we'll run into each other often... ..right)
But besides, I think I'd be glad to have him as a "friend". He's an intelligent, playful personality and I can always use more of those around. I have promised myself I'll do nothing too drastic to attempt to take fate into my own hands, especially since I feel too deeply for my special in CO, but that's no reason to avoid possibly hanging out and getting to know handsome dudes. And Cappy men, well not usually my type, but he oozes sensuality in the slightly shy sense, and I could definitely handle being in the path of that...

Oh, also, do you have any astrological pointers based on either his chart, or our charts compared?

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posted January 05, 2004 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know Virgo, Capricorns do ooze, but they can be very emotional and fickle. They do not trust their instincts all the time and feel inadequate. What happened with the Gemini? Gemini and Virgo are squared but it could happen. Have you tried to all the Cap on your own? Caps are not notoriously good at calling, they are shy.

What's the worst that can happen?

Natasha
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posted January 06, 2004 12:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Wow....

From a quick glance, your charts literally match up like a checker board! Here's why the attraction is totally sizzling, but nothing's cooking...

YOU are a very discriminating lady and you really choose your mates carefully. HE will always be taken away by a woman with more pazazz. Fire, optimism... it gets him going because he's got QUITE a climb ahead of him. He's going to go really really far.

If you were both 20 years older and he had all his ducks in a row (like he planned), then HE would be more secure in himself, and YOU would feel more secure in dedicating yourself to him.

It's almost as if you guys have a virtual alter-life carrying on in some other dimension without you!

I have felt this way many times with people. But life when truly lived has a way of altering the way things fall into place.

.gloria

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posted January 06, 2004 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Natasha...as far as the Gemini goes, well, he knows how I feel, that I like him in the romantic sense and yet he's been so hesitant in acknowledging whether it's reciprocal, verbally at least, though he's hinted at it in the letters he's written me back. He flirts physically and verbally in a most playful yet seriously genuine manner whenever we visit, more so in the visually obvious sense since he asked me and found out of my feelings face to face last December of 2002. I always have this powerfully long-term vibe about our "relationship" since I've admitted my affection, like we'd be content and intensely devoted as a couple since we seem to bring out the best in each other.
BTW, I did call the Capricorn once, and left a cute message on his voicemail saying "now you can't say I never call ", back when we used to run into each other on the bus, and the next time I saw him, he lightly told me that I'd called him in the middle of class(oops ), and he recognized the number as mine. He looked slightly pleased, even if it had disturbed his class by having a ringing phone, which surprised me to say the least. I was using a loaner phone at this point, since mine was in the repair shop after my car accident, and unfortunately when I changed loaner phones again when that particular one malfunctioned, I lost his number . Perhaps if we meet again and he calls me, I'll write it down this time....

What do you mean, gloria, about an "alter life carrying on in another dimension"? And what indicates such a "sizzling attraction", per se? Does what you saw in the comparison indicate he's most likely too insecure to allow me into his life in any form at this point?...

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posted January 06, 2004 12:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
He admires you so much yet knows he has SO far to go, he's probably wishing he had all his ducks in a row already, that way he can offer you what he knows he's capable of providing you.

I'm not saying he's an insecure person. He's not. It's just that he knows on an intuitive level what it is you will be better off with in terms of marriage, etc.

It's sizzling not only because of a physical attraction, but because you both would not hesitate to dedicate yourself to each other fully. It's beyond physical.

It's like an alter-life in another dimension in this sense, and this is a VERY simple analogy: Remember when Cher and that much younger bagel guy were dating? And then she came out with that song, "If I could turn back time..."

I believe that there are energies of mythical proportions which are carrying on all around us, WITHOUT us. So that all the sweet wishes and fantasies you can imagine as a couple, HE's probably wishes and fantasized about you too.

This is like a soul or soulmate connection. It's a love affair which carries on without you because just because you are not acting on it or haven't consummated it, doesn't mean it's not alive and evolving. See?

A soul connection can be completely platonic yet SIZZLING.

I'm not saying that you guys will not get together now or in the future. But he's not got his ducks in a row, and since he's got a long way to go and a lot more to learn, he's going to gravitate more towards women with more fire and assertiveness.

Since life has a way of turning out differently than our ideal image, it's possible that he will just end up with one of those girls one day. See?

It's up to you, I don't know you well enough to say, "Hey, act like this towards him..." One of you will make THE move, or you won't.

.gloria

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posted January 06, 2004 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, gloria..I'm floored by the analysis you gave to this situation. It was so enlightening, and yet reaffirmed my gut instincts that I have kept denying. I'll have to reflect on this more when, I know it will be "when" as opposed to "if", we meet again. Maybe at some point he and I will even be be on close enough terms that I'll be able to share your insight....hmm..never know what fate and the Universe will deal me (which reminds me of a favorite quote: "You can't leave everything to Fate, boy. She's got a lot to do...sometimes you must give her a hand"-Ever After)
Thanks for your words of wisdom.


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posted January 06, 2004 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Hey:

I'm super glad it made sense to you and you could apply it in some way to get things going.

.gloria

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posted January 07, 2004 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Gotta stay hopeful...

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posted January 07, 2004 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I can see where you would think that being hopeful is important. If I were to put on my psychic hat and look into the crystal ball, I would tell you to look forward to a very long EXTENDED friendship where you find quiet places to talk for hours.

If it's gonna happen, it will probably sneak up on both of you because I doubt a severe move on either end would add to the romance. Try to get to a quiet beach, or a bookstore for coffee... you know. Quiet, peaceful and LOTS and LOTS of talking.

But you didn't ask for my world famous crystal ball reading, (actually I throw macaronni on the table and read the noodles) so take it for what it's worth.

.gloria

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posted January 07, 2004 11:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for trillian     Edit/Delete Message
VAA...sounds like you are indeed giving fate a helping hand, if you're registering for a class that will ensure you meet again.

Why not ask him for coffee? Perhaps there is a group or book or subject you have in common, that you can talk about?

I'm sorry I haven't looked at your charts, I have been so swamped with work, etc...but I will as soon as I can. Though there are those here who have FAR FAR more knowledge of astrology than I, including astro junkie.
I can't even figure out my own relationship's astrological stuff, Never sure how much weight to give each synastry aspect, and then there's the composite....*sigh*

I wish you the best.

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posted January 08, 2004 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, gloria...I will keep that in mind...he seems as though he might enjoy those type of places, bookstores, coffeehouses and the like. I'll work on that possibility.
Thanks for the well wishes, trillian. And you're generous to even offer to read the charts...I am a patient person, and will look forward to your take on them. Don't downplay your empathetic knowledge, it will lend a very human tone to your interprtation.
I'll keep you all updated as to how things do or don't pan out..and if the Gemini factors more significantly into the picture...

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posted January 08, 2004 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo artist I admire your follow through. I find the direct approach is best with a Cap. Since it's his birthday soon, or just past, a present in hand would be a good idea, so you can whip it out and say Happy Birthday. Caps relate strongly to holidays and birthdays and get sentimental about them. I had a Cap boyfriend who sent me birthday cards for years after I broke up with him. He was strange and distant too, but I think it's a mood.

He was a real sweetie, a Jan. Cap.

Natasha
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posted January 08, 2004 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not exactly sure I want to be that drastic, Natasha, I mean, with a gift and all. I'm a selective person with who I put my attention into, simply because I care too much, once I decide a person is "worthy", so to speak. I think perhaps I'll mention the b-day, but not be so forward...I guess I'm just sick of getting burned as badly as I have so many times before, and reading into what turns out to be a trival association in the other person's perspective. Maybe I'll casually give him a copy of his natal chart from astro.com? It doesn't imply I assume he cares for me quite as blatantly. And yet it's nice to know you've had a pleasant experience with another January-Cappy guy.

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posted January 08, 2004 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo Artist, well when I say gift I mean something really small like a book, or in my case it was a packet of ginseng for energy that happened to be in my purse. I carry stuff around for other people all the time. I am a gift giver. He thought it was unique and wasn't overwhelmed. I know what you mean I wouldn't give a big gift to a man ever, or send a card unless he did first. Sometimes a man is just being nice or wants to check you out.

Something small like that works and doesn't put you out emotionally too much, it' s practical too.

Good Luck, Caps are not usually "players" in my experience,

Natasha

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posted January 09, 2004 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo-Artist:

Keep in mind what I said about him possibly ending up, as fate would have it, with a girl with more FIRE. And like I said, don't have to change who you are, etc. But when you come to those times when you REALLY want to take some action no matter how insignificant, remember....

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So...I don't know what to make of this situation now, and I'm sure neither of us does. Here's what happened yesterday:
I was sitting in the library computer lab after my class ended at 12:30, and suddenly I got this powerful jolt of energy out of nowhere. So, I turned around, and who should be standing behind me, but the Cap dude. We had sorta ran into each other for a few minutes on Tuesday, but not said much. Yet, yesterday, he, for all intents and purposes, approached me. We got talking and after 5-10 minutes, I asked him if he wanted to sit down, but he said he had to go, as he was on his way out to catch the bus to work. I asked him what time he was working and he said 5PM. I responded, "so, you have like 4 hours to kill until you have to be at work?...ok..., why are you in such a hurry?". He relented and said he could afford to stay another hour. So, he did, sat down at the computer next to me, and we both were on the internet, chatting off and on. I asked him what buses he was taking home, then looked at the time, and remarked aloud that I'd just missed the bus I was going to take. After realizing that he was taking a route that passed very close to my house, I said, "well, I'll just head the same way you are, as it'll get me equally close to home as the other bus would've".
So, we walked down the to nearest bus terminal, talking and joking all the way, and found out that the bus we needed didn;t come for another half hour, so he suggested we go over to McDonald's for something to eat. I'd already eaten, so I just had some fries, but he paid, which was kinda nice. Over the course of our conversations, he frequently mentioned how many girls he knew and how several had given him their number (even showed me the scrap of paper for a number he'd gotten that day), and how one already seemed to like him a lot. I said I didn't really care to hear about that, and we pretty much dropped that topic for the most part. Otherwise, we talked about stuff from how we'd both been hit by cars, both loved to watch "Law and Order", "CSI", and "Without a Trace", books we'd read (we're both into sc-fi/fantasy) and movies that he was surprised I hadn't seen, and learned that we both wrote poetry (he said he'll bring some of his to show me next Tuesday), both had changed schools multiple times, etc. Nice conversation and it flowed fairly well, especially since we'd only talked a handful of times before. One time, I was about to say something in response to something he'd said, and he said what I was going to say before I said it. He said he frequently knew what his friends were going to say before they said it....which means he thinks of me as a "friend" and I don't mind the assumption as I didn't correct him, like last time. Who knows where this'll head, but I don't care at the moment. I just had a wonderfully fun and relaxing time hanging out with him and for me that's good enough. We understand each other well, and he'll be a good person to keep track of.
Just wanted to update you all, since you've been so supportive in my uncertainty...
As always, Love and Lite,

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posted January 16, 2004 04:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spiria     Edit/Delete Message
I HAVE HAD CAPPY'S ON THE BRAIN...hey, how funny is that, i didn't even realize i was typing in capital letters until i looked up from typing (CAPS LOCK was on to my unbeknownst dismay!)....CAPS for Capricorns, ha! i prefer lowercase when typing however. sooo...back to my point. i have seriously had Cappy men on the brain myself ever since a vey deep, emotional and spiritual talk with an old Cappy friend of mine that i hadn't seen in years. it got me to thinking about the only Cappy i personally had such an intense attraction/repulsion to that i used to work with. to sum up a long story, the second Cappy plays a vital role in my past. we were a dynamo duo of therapeutic childcare specialists working with abused/neglected kiddos. seriously. if the two of us worked a shift we WORKED it....the kids felt safe to express themselves and we handled crises with finesse. we stuck up for each other yet also gave each other room to breathe and do our thing....we had different but complementary styles....ok, ramble ramble. my point of all this in relation to you and your Cappy man is this: my Cappy adored me but hardly would come out and say it. he sent mixed signals alot, was very shy although he boasted his adventurer side. he also would flaunt other girls in my face to get me going, if you will. especially if i was acting aloof or preoccupied he would start flirting more with girls and rubbing it in my face and being all cryptic about the actual status of their friendships...of course, if i pressed more, i would find he was building these other girls up to me for whatever reasons, they usually either disappointed him and he lost interest or they thought of him as just a friend. we never dated for various reasons, but we did have our sigh, *intimate* moments. i personally think being up front with a Cappy is good, but only once you are SURE OF WHERE YOU STAND. perhaps and hopefully your cappy is different, but mine would take advantage of my weak, indecisive moments when we were alone. ok, not always, but usually. his ego and hormones would take him over. ugh. ok, so would mine....eek...
huh. i wish i could be as succinct as gloria. i have slacked on my studyings of astrology as of late, being a single mama of a wee one is frazzling me a bit these days. but i guess my heart just went out to you reading all this and i thought i would share some personal experiences with Capricorns with you. that and i am confused myself about how i seem to be intensely attracted to them on certain levels and then they just completely disappear from my life for years at a time....well, i have more stories about Cappies but this is getting loooong.
may your heart, mind, intuit, spirit and soul guide you to what is best....
love and light to you....

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posted January 16, 2004 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Virgo-Aries -

"...very long EXTENDED friendship... lot's of talking..."


Spiria -
Didn't mind reading all your thoughts. I don't say that about just anyone.

.gloria

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posted January 17, 2004 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spiria     Edit/Delete Message
Astrojunkie~

ditto. i read all of your posts to the last word and sometimes more than once. and same here, i skim read alot for main ideas, but i enjoy reading your thoughts. funny, i was just thinking about how i would like to hear your thoughts/views/etc on a particular situation for me....when i am ready i will especially ask for your insight if you don't mind!

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posted January 17, 2004 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
WOW! Really? That's very cool. I'm a writer so that means a lot to me...

I absolutely don't mind... my email addy is on my Profile...

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