posted December 28, 2003 01:37 AM         

Are you hoping to remain friends? Or more?

It is possible that unless the Gemini guy has a lot of fire in his chart, or unless you have a ton of air, he will continue to frustrate you leading no where.

As for their emotions, I understand exactly what you mean. You read a lot about their detachment and wonder how emotions play into that since as an Aries, you feel emotions thoroughly, not halfway. So how can it be?

Well, Gemini's definately DO have emotions. Some can be quite emotional if they have a lot of water in their chart. But like Linda said, we all have to be true to our Sun sign. So the emotions will make the Air sign feel uncomfortable. It's like trying to hear a pulse underwater as opposed to the air. They're not getting a clear signal, and it's frustrating because they have to do a lot more work to make a translation.

But ultimately, it will be their mental translation which will overide the feelings. They learn how to interpret emotions within themselves in order to express them verbally. They do not act solely on emotions.

That's the difference.

They are not always trying to be deliberatly deceiptful, although the mercurial energy may play a prank or two.

Go to www.metamaze.com and check out this awesome directory of famous people's charts. You can look for any combination of Sun/Moon, or by Birthdate, or by their name. Go to Sun and enter Gemini, and try entering a water Moon, combination and see who comes up. That may give you some prototypes to study.

with love & support,

.gloria

posted December 28, 2003 04:56 PM         

Wish I had some advise for you but I am learning as I go.

posted December 28, 2003 06:12 PM         

Also, I thought your analogy about hearing a heart beat under water was so interesting...it really gave me something to think about! I'm hoping that with a better understanding of how he thinks/processes things I'll be more secure about our past and present. I often get a gut feeling about his underlying goodheartedness and give him the benefit of the doubt, but (true to Aries style)I don't want to be anyone's fool and don't want to give our friendship and past more significance than he does.

I'm not looking for a romantic relationship from him at this point- I recognize that the timing is all wrong...I just want to better understand how our past and and present are thought of by HIM so that I can be more realistic about any furture together, friendship or otherwise

Below is the run down on our past in case it's of interest...sorry, this message is turning into a really long one!

Here goes:

My Gemini and I have a good (albeit sporadic)friendship, we've known eachother for a couple of years and although we don't get to see eachother that often (we're both so busy!) we do stay in touch and when we get together it really feels like no time has gone by at all...I feel very comfortable around him and though we are just friends for all intents and purposes I often still feel a special pull between us. There's definately sexual chemistry...but more than that, we're both quick thinkers, and have the same goofy/sarcastic/witty humor and can go on and on with playful banter and conversation. For all of our playfulness though it feels like there's an underlying tenderness and closeness too that sometimes feels like it's lurking under the surface of our goofiness.

One night our flirtacious friendship took a more physical turn...I know it sounds cliche but it really was a magical night! He and I had both been elusive and ambiguous about our possible romantic interest in eachother but that night it felt like there was fairy dust sprinkled over both of us and neither one held back our feelings. What I had thought would be a mostly physical night actually turned into a very tender and romantic one...especially in the morning: lots of cuddling and sweet words exchanged and to my surprise he seemed to imply the begining of a real relationship (the exact words aren't important but I ran them by my close friends and all agree that they were definately implications of a committment...I'm just nervous about posting them publicly ). I was taken abback by how defenseless and content he seemed to feel in my arms...like a little baby, a side of him I had never experienced and in contrast to his usual detached composure (typical Gemini )He seemed genuinely excited to finally be close with me (it felt amazing), at times he seemed a bit overwhelmed (I was too but hid it a bit better I think).

Anyway, what happened after that was pretty surprising: I didn't hear from him for three weeks, at which time I got a (very nervous) phone message from him...full of mumbles and stutters, and exuses (I did not call him back). Well, later, at HIS insistence we got together to talk about everything that had happened. I was friendly and understanding listening to him and trying to make sense of his fragmented sentences...I was too guarded too ask the really tough questions of him...I didn't want to let on about how hurt I was, so I never really got the answers I wanted. He was being pretty unclear...he kept talking about how he had to make a decision and how he had struggled between the two options, it seemed like he liked both options equally (friendship or romantic relationship). Anyway, finally we pretty much decided to go back to the way things had been before that night.

We've been able to stay in touch and keep the friendship going pretty well since then...there's no awkwardness at all. As I said earlier though, despite the technically platonic and fun nature of our relationship I still feel a connection when we get together. I'm not sure what to think about that night...the fact that it never went forward makes me wonder about how real those feelings were...still, I've also read about how Geminis often get scared by strong feelings and can supress them. I wonder how much of all that is true?

Thanks for listening...I'm open to any more insights anyone may have

posted December 28, 2003 06:55 PM         

Oh OK...

Maybe through your friendship with him, he's heard you say how you are in romantic situations, like your expectations and your style, how you don't want to be a fool, etc.

Maybe he realized he wouldn't be able to see you two through to the sweet ending, and knowing you don't like to be a fool, decided he didn't want to become girl munch.

Just take it as his way of respecting you highly, but maybe not someone who is going to be able to fulfill all your Aries passions, hopes and dreams. It might take a different temperment to do that.

Unless you want to just come right out and say what you hope with him and keep it all in the open and ask him to tell you how he feels about it, then you should move on and know he's there as a good friend.

Gemini's don't like to feel like they are being "chosen" by a mate. They like to feel as if the universe has made the decision for both. So go with the flow. There are many other sign combos who get off more on a woman who knows what she wants and goes for it.

with love & support,

.gloria

posted December 28, 2003 10:46 PM         

But baby hot or cold, you got a hold
Of my imagination
I think you know what I mean

You make me feel so emotional
I can't let go I'm so emotional
I'm sinking deep into an ocean full of you
I'm so emotional"

The only advice I can give you is remember how word-oriented they are, and try writing little notes, friendly and chatty, but always brief, avoiding delving too deep with questions or giving implied hints of how deep you do care. Send him articles about topics you know he's into, which will show you care and have been really listening to what he's said, as well as showing you appreiciate his variety of interests.
My "special Gemini guy" does have two important personal planets in a water sign, Cancer, which does alter his intense detachment a bit, though he still actively hides his sensitivities (except some special moments where he lets his sentimental sweet nature gleam through ). He's shown his attention through giving me little presents, asking me point blank if it was true I had feelings for him, and just being his extra-special self, talkative, intriging, and child-like. I love how he makes me feel, and warmth we seem to bring out in each other when we're together, and I think I make him feel important and that his ideas are worthwhile (which they're always been to me). BTW, I do have an Aries rising I am very independent, much like I'm sure you are as a triple Aries), and I'm pretty darn sure my Gemmy's moon is in Aries, so we connect on another level.
I totally understand your confusion about his mixed signals, as mine has done much of the same, but all I can tell you is be patient (a very difficult request of an Aries-influenced person, I know). He sounds like he's coming to terms with his feelings, overwhelming as they may be, which a step in a positive direction, so give him a little space. I don't pretend to know the answers, as my connection with my "special Gemini guy" is till evolving, but I am merely offering my wisdom, and wish you luck. Keep us posted on how things are going = .

posted December 29, 2003 10:17 AM         

i'm an aries sun too. i think the truth to getting to know and achieving related with gemini suns are to roll with the punches and not get too attached to any ONE persona. easier said than done, but experience is the best teacher. this relies on you knowing what inside you is secure and non-vacillating so that no matter what they do, you can stay centered and have fun.

i think people who have active minds and truthfully have mercurial tendencies will do alright. these folks will have a ball with gemini suns, risings, and moons. be honest, would you actually spend free time cruising the MENSA website and playing a few mind games? do you like card games? do word plays come naturally to you? do math riddles appeal?

otherwise, one may become tired and accumulate self-doubts. it's not always easy to generate a steady supply of enthusiam after an encounter with the Evil Twin . who knows how many mutations of those are available at a moment's notice.

hope this helps you out and all the best to you in making the right choice.

posted December 30, 2003 12:31 PM         

the pull you are talking about is true and Aries and Gemini work well together, I have Mars on the ascendant, Venus in Aries in the 5th, and Mars in Sag, and I do very well with Geminis and My latest is Libra Sun/Gemini Moon/Gemini Rising/Mars Libra/7th house/venus/virgo/5th. So you can see where he can be detached and cold sometimes. I basically gave him two choices, him or someone else and he told me wanted me and that was that. We were together, married for 7 years after that confrontation it took about 6 weeks to get hitched.

I am very Aries that way. But he never complained once, in fact it got better and better for him and he loved being married. Geminis and Libras love partnerships so I figured it was me or someone else and we took our time perfecting our love. I gave him lots of wordy presents, cards every week, and poems, and wrote my heart out to him. I paint and draw, too, and shopped for him. He loved little presents and cards. At first he tried joke cards on me but after a while softened up and became addicted to heartwarming stuff.

For my last birthday he made a tape of himself singing happy birthday for me so I could play it all the time. The Gemini is very moody it's true but I did have a wonderful time with him. For us we had to separate because we moved so far from his Italian family he was depressed. Geminis and Air signs are secretly very loyal to their families, and rarely move around away from them. So I am now near my family, he is back near his, and truly I wish him the best, a beautiful woman who adores him, probably another Libra or air sign who can wine and dine him and adore him, close to home.

Air signs are very domestic even without water, the idealize it, so be prepared for that side and the more conservative mate side, be prepared to like his mother and live close by to his ideals, you won't be able to be that independent.

I would go for a Gemini or Libra or Aqua again, but probably an Aqua since they are more straightforward about the truth even though it hurts your feelings, I need that and they seem more secure about themselves, even with Venus in Capricorn. Venus in Aqua is even better. I also love Capricorns and earth signs.

posted December 30, 2003 01:03 PM         

Gemini guys will show they're interested by seeking you out, mostly through conversation. I think Geminis in general like a bit of a challenge so long as it keeps them interested (short attention spans-j/k!)-but not too much of a challenge, especially if there is a bit of water thrown into the mix. I once experienced a very similar evening to the one you described with your Gemini with a Gemini Sun/Scorpio Moon man. All at once everything was tender and sweet and...as you said perfectly "defenseless." Then when I thought showing emotion would ruin the relationship, the opposite came true-he wanted more emotion. Now I know a Gemini Sun/Cancer Moon who is a little hard to read as well. It's hard to find that balance. lol

The intimacy you described and the way he responded to you sounds very much like a Gemini reaction to strong emotions. The fact that you share a bond and very good banter is all in your favor!
I think that with Geminis, it's key to remember they aren't always the same "person," so to speak; the Gemini man (and woman) is multi-faceted.

posted December 30, 2003 11:27 PM         

The way things stand right now I'm just going to 'go with the flow'...we're both still pretty young (22) and I think both of us have a lot of growth and learning to do on our own. I truly hope we stay friends long enough to be able to share/enjoy eachother's development with eachother. When things got intense between us I don't think either of us were ready for something serious...yet neither would've tried to make it casual. I know that we have a bond...I don't know if we are right for eachother or not, but I guess time will tell

Just out of curiosity...does anyone out there do compatibility charts? I wonder what the stars have to say about us!

Thanks again guys...and I'll definately fill you guys in on any major developments.