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Topic: Everlasting Love: How Do You Know if It's for Real?
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pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1831 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted April 25, 2004 10:13 PM
Yer baaaaad! I meant mmmmmmmmmmmm pecan pie. Good analogy.Gloria.. go have sex! (me too!) bu-bye!!! IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8119 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 25, 2004 11:13 PM
HE'S OUT OF TOWN!!! CAN'T YOU TELL??He left last week for a week to a family funeral. I had a funeral this weekend too. (We're both Libra's)...?? But wait a minute... pecan pie? Hee hee... IP: Logged |
Eleanore Moderator Posts: 1187 From: North Carolina Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 10:02 AM
You just know.Regardless of doubts, fears, worries, and seeming problems, somewhere deep inside is a feeling ... a knowing ... that it is real and meant to be. It cannot be ignored or denied for long without erupting into some kind of physical expression, like crying, yelling, or depression. It cannot be expressed accurately with words either, not even to your Lover ... it's a "knowing" thing for both of you; you see it in each other's eyes, feel it in each other's hearts, sense it in each other's minds, experience it in each other's actions, and, if you listen hard enough, you can also hear it in each other's words ... the positive ones and the negative ones for all of these, btw. Sadly, just knowing isn't enough to guarantee a lasting relationship for anyone. Once you know it's true/real, then you both have to work just as hard to make it last. Being a Sagittarius, I feel that honesty and communication are the highest priorities for effort, though not necessarily the only ones. I wish you all Love! You deserve it!  ------------------ "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Ghandi IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1831 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted April 26, 2004 11:10 AM
Oh thank you.. That last part really touched me. You deserve lasting love in your life too.  I did know. And you're right about having to still work at it. I have always paid attention to that inner soul's call in my love life. When I met my son's father, I was so drawn to him, and I had a feeling he would be important to me. Different than the attractions I'd had in the past. Well, I know now that it was becasue my son was ready to come into this Earth, and he was like "hurry up about it!" Because we wasted no time. Of course, that didn't work for life.. but it worked to CREATE life. Still, something inside me knew it was important, and I didn't ignore it. Then when I was disentangling myself from my son's father, I met another true soul's friend. He 'covetted' me from afar, and I was the one who asked HIM out, as he was shy, but I could tell he really dug me. My soul's call told me he was so special. We spent a tumultous year and a bit together, we met as I was disentangling myself from a deep love, and while I loved this new man, I wasn't able to completely give of myself... even though I wanted to , I wanted to just worship him, as he was so good. And sexy and all that. He had so much potential too, in life.. a Cardinal Libra with an Aquarius Moon, a self starter, not afraid to take risks,. I admired that about him. But he hit a patch in the road to stability, and it seemed he was now just depressed all the time. I'm sure I played a large role in that . He was such a pure friend, we could communicate through the mind so easily. But I was after stability at that point.. it was such a drive. I started school, tried to get my life together.. and I met my future husband. He was employed ( a plus) and a very good work ethic ( Capricorn Moon) Aries.... My son very much approved, we were good friends, there was a goodness about him too. He was sexy,. funny.. all that stuff. I really tortured myself about this other guy though, as we had been breaking up off and on, and still we couldn't keep away. I missed him so much. Him me. In retrospect, the timing was good for me, awful for him. I was truly the woman he wanted to be with.. Apparently, he wasn't the one I ultimately wanted to. But at the time, he was smoking too much pot, and not employed, depressed, etc.. and I needed more for my son and myself. My husband represented what I needed. There was a lot of magic there in the beginning. I thought.. "Yes!! This is what I was waiting for!" and went full steam ahead. Every relationship is different. IP: Logged |
Harpyr Moderator Posts: 1901 From: land of the midnight sun Registered: Dec 2002
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posted April 26, 2004 11:29 AM
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Eleanore Moderator Posts: 1187 From: North Carolina Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 11:57 AM
 pixlepixie I would never judge you in any number of ways, but certainly not about something as personal and complex as this. I think you are aware of your connections with this man, and also of the many complex circumstances and ties that surround your relationship ... whatever it has been, is, or will be. Please don't feel guilty about your decisions, or regret the path you've chosen so far ... "all roads lead to Rome" is cliche but it's true. You are still working out a lot of "karmic contracts" with many people (as we all are) and perhaps that is just one reason why you two are not together now and/or whether or not you will be in the future. I can relate in a strange way to your situation. I also was in a relationship where I felt this connection, but oddly enough, I walked out for the exact same reasons you did (drugs, unemployment, depression, etc. on his part) ... although we did also have our fair share of fights (Mars square Pluto, twice). Strangely enough, at that point in time, I also met another man that affected me deeply and that I did become involved with ... but after a while I came to realize that my attraction towards him was based more on the fact that he represented the things I needed at that time; stability, purpose, tangible goals, etc. That relationship soon ended as well. Part of me wished for someone with the same connection as my first love, but at the same time rebelled strongly against being involved with the same person because he was still wrapped up in his heavy drug use and depression, etc. I also wished to keep the things I had learned from my most recent relationship in perspective because I found those lessons to be highly important to me and my growth on all levels. I made a grand effort to be patient and put it in God/dess hands. Lo and behold, along comes my hubby and the rest is ... our future! (BTW, he is Aquarius Sun, Libra Moon) He is a wonderful blend of all the good things that I had with my first love and the things that attracted me to my learning relationship ... with his own little "challenging" aspects for fun. (There were certainly other relationships, but none quite so impacting.) I also share Pluto/Venus contacts, although minor, with both my first love and my true love ... the first one was a quintile aspect, my hubby's and mine is a semi-sextile aspect. Oddly, my hubby and I also have a Mars square Pluto aspect, but only one this time around, and I have learned from experience to follow Linda's advice on that one. 
Anything is possible, and thanks for the love! ------------------ "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Ghandi IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1831 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted April 26, 2004 12:09 PM
Thank You, Eleanore  You too, Harpyr  IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8119 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 02:10 PM
Eleanore -I loved your description of how you know it's love. Can you please tell me more about what you meant by: "...you can also hear it in each other's words ... the positive ones and the negative ones for all of these, btw.." Thank you. IP: Logged |
Eleanore Moderator Posts: 1187 From: North Carolina Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 02:45 PM
astro junkie Oh, I simply meant that in all those ways we express ourselves (mentally, emotionally, physically, and verbally) we should still be able to have that "knowing" feeling regardless of the apparant positive or negative things that we do to express ourselves. With words, for example, we sometimes tend to yell and use harsh words towards each other, but more often than not we don't mean them. If we really pay close attention to what our Loves are saying we may (1) not remain as angry and thus refuse to further the conflict and (2) understand that we are just really hurting each other ... and you can't be really, truly be hurt by someone if you aren't capable of really, truly loving them and being loved by them, as well. Once those "knowing" feelings are acknowledged and brought to the surface, it is much easier to open the lines of communication and be honest about what's really upsetting us instead of just being mean towards each other. If your Love acts upset and accuses you of "flirting" with other men (when you simply were talking to a friend), instead of getting upset over it understand the fears behind that and see the possibility of a compliment in a little bit of jealousy. If the loving "knowing" feeling is really truly there, you should be able to make some progress in assuring each other of your true feelings for each other instead of lashing out and making things worse. And the same, of course, can be said to the other partner. (Note, I am aware that there are actual negative situations and if you feel you are being mistreated, abused, neglected or anything else like that, then perhaps this is not the "true love" you are needing and should make your exit pronto. Just my opinion.)------------------ "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Ghandi IP: Logged |
JustAmanda Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Registered: Jan 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 04:35 PM
Wow...now I see why I felt such an urge to respond to your post Pixel...reading your responses is like...reading into my own life...*hugs* when you have an attraction to someone else that goes deeper than just an attraction...it's like a psychic push...and it's REALLY hard to ignore... IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8119 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 06:19 PM
Hey Eleanore - that makes perfect sense. I'm sort of trying to apply it to my current "friendship" (like a good Libra), and you know how when you read something that you're READY to read? Or find out something when you are ready? I'd heard some distant relatives talking about this one really happy married couple, they've been married for like 40 years or something, and still kicking it. And when people ask them what the secret of their success is they say "RESPECT!" And one of the amazing things is when they are referring to each other, they do so in the most formal way you would refer to an honored stranger. They don't get lazy with their language. ------------------ it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness... IP: Logged |
Eleanore Moderator Posts: 1187 From: North Carolina Registered: Aug 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 06:33 PM
I know exactly what you're talking about, astro junkie, when it comes to the synchronicity and timing of coming across certain things when you're ready. I love it! And that couple you mention sounds very wise to me. I love the reference to not letting our language get "lazy". Most appropriate insight! OH, the word druids must be gusted and gruntled at the very mention! 
------------------ "You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Ghandi IP: Logged |
Motherkonfessor Knowflake Posts: 535 From: Registered: Oct 2003
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posted April 26, 2004 11:03 PM
Oh, pixie..........*hugs* your willingness to share your most heartfelt emotions about your love and feelings has touched me. You are a wonderfully sensitive, caring person. You rock!! MK IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1831 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted April 27, 2004 02:18 AM
*sniff* All this descension here today and yet camraderie and love at the same time. Thank you for reading my long winded post, and thank you for responding and hearing what is beyond my surface fun (Hey, that rhymes with 'circus fun'!) I am still working through so much and I don't yet know what this 'story' has to offer.. anything real and tangible, or would I just disparage him as well. Most people wish they had more love in their life... but I think i have enough for a few.. and that is the problem. Real love, too. I am very fortunate in finding very good people to be in my life (Here included~ Maybe especially, which is why I am here all the time) But the excess love in my 'real' life here does give me concern. I want to honour all, but not hurt any. I am just walking the middle path, trying to pay attention to the little moments that break beyond the ordinary.... And they happen alot, actually. We'll see. Mk~ Thank you (miss you ~ update please!) Eleanore, thank you for your wisdom Amanda~ Also, thank you.. I am now intrigued at the paralells.... Maybe I will be enlightened someday.  IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 8119 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted April 27, 2004 02:25 PM
Pixie -This is something that has happened to me so many times throughout the years. Once in a blue moon, I'll wake up, and when I open my eyes, everything looks different. And I'll like start walking around my house, fully aware, and all the sudden I start thinking, "Is this MY home? Did I decorate it like this? It's so... BEAUTIFUL!" And I was talking about that feeling (it's NOT LIKE dejavue, but it has its own realm like dejavue does) to my hypnotherapist (who it only took 5 or 6 sessions with) and he said to me that writers (cuz I'm a writer) write in order to hide. He's like, "You are a very GOOD writer... but there's one thing missing... YOU!" IP: Logged |
PlayfulPonderingFishMoon Knowflake Posts: 267 From: Registered: Sep 2003
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posted April 27, 2004 06:56 PM
Hi pixel,I really feel for you with having so much indecision in your love life, no kidding here. I think it's enormously difficult to be so torn in two like the way it sounds you kind of are right now. I am just curious about where the planet Jupiter is located within your natal chart? If you say it's in your 7th House, I will not be surprised, since I know that Jupiter usually means many loves, etc.... ------------------ "Somewhere once I had read a description of eternity. 'If there were a mile high mountain of granite, and once every ten thousand years, a bird flew past and brushed it with a feather, by the time that mountain was worn away, only a fraction of a second would have passed in the context of eternity.'" IP: Logged |
JustAmanda Knowflake Posts: 497 From: Registered: Jan 2003
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posted April 27, 2004 08:18 PM
WOW! That must be true because I have Jupiter in my 7th house...along with Venus, Mars and Neptune...not sure what those mean, but they are in there too...IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Moderator Posts: 1831 From: Ontario Canada Registered: Jun 2005
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posted April 27, 2004 09:06 PM
Thanks for the concern~ I actually have Jupiter at the very end degrees(28.51) of my Tenth house~Taurus But I also Have Venus conjunct Neptune in my Fifth house(Sagittarius~ Which is sort of telling right there...).. trining my Ascendant.(Leo)My Seventh is empty, But it is Aquarius. I have been reading here, that the descendant's ruler's location points to your soulmate style. The Ruler would be Uranus, which is conjunct my Sun, Mars, and Node, in Scorpio, in the Fourth. Incidentally, all my closest, bonding-type friends have Aquarius Moons. IP: Logged | |