posted February 12, 2004 04:02 PM         

My brother has Pluto in the 7th house but he is happily married and totally against infidelity. He also has Venus in the 12th house.

My old Virgo friend (freak boy) he has Venus in the 12th house. He was not an unfaithful guy from what he said (and his friends backed him up) but he was very much into porn and objectifying women. For the record Mr. Virgo weirdo wanted to be with me and wanted to get married (LOL....I think he wanted it more because I wasn't interested)

posted February 12, 2004 07:30 PM         

Venus in water houses has a quality of merging with others easily, friends are super important and may sway him/her's thinking often. It's important to understand the friends, buddies, and know what or who he is associating with. But they do honestly want to be good.

It was work for me honestly, but then I was not up to it, having Venus in Aries in the 4th, I am impatient and demanding in the home department, wanting the perfect home environment, and mergy myself. It's good to be strong minded with Venus in 12th, if you are, then you have nothing to worry about.

It depends on a lot of things with this placement, you have to weed out the weeds, and seek out the positive traits. There is worry, doubt and lots of negativity, you will have to firm up his resolve once in a while.

Are you committed to him forever? That is the only way it will work because he will pick up on your thoughts right away and get negative. I can tell in a heartbeat if a man is looking for greener grass and I can get negative immediately.

Venus in water houses likes a good looking mate so be prepared to work out and be in shape. You will have to work on your outer self as well as inner and that can be work. Are you ready? Sexually you have to be there too and bolster up the ego of your mate. Emotions run high and he may have lows. You will have to give space and completely trust him at all times. In return you get a life mate but you have to give up everything in return. You get what you give.

Natasha
Taurus/6th house
Venus Aries/4th house
Cancer Moon/8th house

posted February 12, 2004 07:33 PM         

No sex=no relationship. Otherwise he will inwardly seethe and seek elsewhere, but he will not come to you first with that problem.

Do not baby him.

posted February 12, 2004 10:52 PM         

Unless you are able to emote with this guy virtually all the time, his propensity for secret liasons may divide you.

Did you already say where his other planets are?

.gloria

posted February 12, 2004 11:44 PM         

RE: The secret liasons thing...he and I started out seeing each other while I was still living with the other Virgo, although that relationship was El Lamo already, and basically existed only for the convenience facter by that time...or, so it seemed. But, his last relationship ended because he caught his common law wife sneeking around on him behind his back, and the one before her was going to school on the other side of the country, and decided she wanted to live there, and also decided that she didn't want him to join her. Translation: She met someone else. So, it seems if Venus in the 12th is an indicator of secret liasons, he's been the victom of them in the past. Makes me wonder...why? Could it be his 8th house Saturn causing his grief? Making him repressed and therefore leading to sexually unfullfilled girlfriends who look for it elsewhere? There's two sides to every story.

Although, I have to add that he seems to enjoy sex very much, and is quite endowed, and quite vigorous in bed...just finicky about when and where. But he's a Virgo too. so I dunno, that's normal for them isn't it?...

posted February 13, 2004 06:40 AM         

Sounds like you hit it all on the nail. 8th House Saturn along with Mars and Venus in 12th all have one thing in common. He'll find himself in the center of someone else's unfortunate circumstances, although he meant well.

Those guys are huge trouble for me personally. It's like they leave a backdoor open and then wonder why chaos comes walking in. It makes me question his character even though he may mean well.

.gloria

posted February 13, 2004 05:52 PM         

I don't know if I'm committed to him forever. Do I have to decide right now? I'm still auditioning him for the role of leading man in this drama! He hasn't necessarily asked for it yet, though...LOL. Well, we'll see how the rest of the rehearsal turns out.

posted February 13, 2004 09:53 PM         

I know you will probably be able to relax with him more than me, I mean I assume because of the ease Leo's have socially. Like, you would feel easier sort of hanging out with the chap and feeling no loss of time.

For me, and it's just the way I am, I'd sort of see the things as they would appear down the line. I mean, that's one of the beauties of astrology. And so based on that, and based on my concern for your well-being, I'm pointing out what my cautious planets see.

He's probably great for passing the time. Could be great fun, a confident, supportive, etc. But down the line...

If he's the type who seems to find himself in the middle of other people's "dramas"...

Does he?

It would say to me he does not have much forethought, and knowing that some girl down on her luck that he knew a long time ago could call him away from me so he can somehow "solve" an imagined problem for her... it would shake the foundations of security too much for me...

Just consider it. It's only my take...

.gloria

posted February 14, 2004 10:03 AM         

I would look at it from a relationship point of view, what does the relationship need, want? It's a separate being, with it's own mind. How strong is it? There are other fish in the sea you know.

I won't tell you what to do, ever. But you have to make choices for yourself, that you have to live with down the line, which comes along faster than you think. It's your life, and you are stuck with the responsibility of all the choices you make, even if someone else is involved. His problems are not your problems and vice vesa. You can't control or change him in any way, and so you have to look at reality as is. Are you happy or not? It's up to you. Take Care

Crazy Day here already, I think Carlo was right, what a mess V-Day has become already! Looking forward to tomorrow,

posted February 14, 2004 09:08 PM         

As for the "fantasy" aspects of relationships, I have:

Mercury Conj Neptune
Venus Sextile Neptune
Mars Conj Neptune
Neptune Sextile Pluto
Neptune Square MC

Is it any wonder I've been so seriously afraid of marriage?

As for my 12th House Cusp, it's in Aries. Apparently, my intentions and motives are not always clear to others. This may explain why I'm not good at "small talk" or always feel like no matter what, people don't "get me", which leads to my continuing to feel like no matter what, no one is making a "connection" with me, nor I to them.

I feel more comfortable in writing. In this way, I'm expressing myself more accurately.

Aries in 12th House Cusp can also bring out the worst in others in the form of THEIR hidden motives.

There's always been a strong element of "vulnerability" about me, in the form of a huge "blind spot". I've survived it only through the grace of God. It's been such a curse. It's also forced me to continually elevate tasks involving being on the offense, which to a Libra with Cancer Moon, can become (HAS become) quite taxing.

I guess you could say I've been FORCED to survive.

For what it's worth...

.gloria

posted February 15, 2004 09:06 AM         

A rambling. For what it's worth.
I don't have Venus in the 12th, but Moon. And Saturn in the 8th. To sense someone's dream and help them to play it out/make real (not necessarily the same thing) has always been easy, natural and most obvious thing to do. To let someone behind MY eyes takes sustained, deliberate effort.

posted February 19, 2004 08:14 PM         

Regarding 12th house Venus, Venus may be the life lesson for this person, learning how to be friends before lovers. Venusian love is friendly and non passionate.

I know you have Neptune in the 12th and so are attracted to Neptunian types, Neptunian love is not based on the physical so spiritual pursuits are really what you two would have in common, or things that are not visible.

I remember you have a 10th house placement of Uranus right? So sexuality would be placed in the 10th, you are physical in your expression of love and require the same. 10th house pursuits, how you are viewed by the world, how your lover is viewed by the world, integrity or lack of it would be a big concern. You would also need quite a bit of physical attention, or the relationship lacks something, but you do not want to be needy either. It's important your lover is mature.

posted February 20, 2004 08:17 AM         

I'm not sure, but it would seem that since the 6th House Cusp is ruled by Virgo, having Venus in Pisces there would cause it to be either more discriminating, OR, more of a matyr/doormat/prone to servitude...

I would also venture to say, your health is greatly affected by the tone of your lovelife.

posted February 29, 2004 07:46 PM         

Having your Mercury & Venus in Cap in 12th House is not that bad. It exposes the motivations of others and gives you a line of protection. Perhaps that is why you love your friends more. Perhaps when you are in love, you bring down that line of protection so that you can be blinded by their true motivations.

What sign is your Saturn in, and what is the sign in your 10th, and then in your 12th House Cusps?

I too have a miserable time in love. If I follow your lead, I have Mercury in Scorpio (burns hot), and Venus in Virgo (blows cold). My moon is in the 3rd in Cancer opposing my Jupter & Saturn in Capricorn in the 9th, and squaring my Libra Sun in the 5th.

I've actually been celibate in my life for MORE time than I've been active, perhaps due to Venus & Pluto in Virgo.

posted February 29, 2004 08:13 PM         

I am not sure where my 10th or 12th cusps are though....

posted March 01, 2004 09:57 AM         

The great thing about taking a break from physical intimacy is it makes you more secure, and confident, AND it's better than before. don't ask me why, that's just what I have found.