posted February 27, 2004 06:42 AM         

Someone once told me that Sag Moons are contenders to possibly cheat. Can anyone elaborate on Sag Moons for me please. I do have a few friends whose Sun sign are Sag and they are flirty.

posted February 27, 2004 09:58 PM         

well being a sag moon myself, i have a problem with commitment and might seem flirty at times. but with my sun and venus in aries, i dont have a problem with infidelity. was seeing a leo with a sag moon who was quite shady though (i have been accused of being shady also)! this leo did have a problem with infidelity but not with me (or so id like to think but we were pretty open to each other about things like that).

posted February 27, 2004 10:48 PM         

Do you think it is your Aries Sun which keeps you sort of interested in fidelity, as opposed to your Aries Venus? Cuz Aries in Venus loves new and FAST experiences. Personally, I LOVE that in a lover, but not if I'm going to be older and leaning on him to grow old together.

posted February 28, 2004 03:19 PM         

I'm thinking the same thing... there are so many other combinations of Sun/Moon which would give you a heads up for the POTENTIAL infidelity, and not to dismiss the chance of someone who's supposedly "all there" to cheat too.

For example: Kobey Bryant has every single thing going for him in the fidelity department. He's strongly devoted to his wife and family. But he has this one teeny weeny weakness, and external forces either found their way to it, or he exposed himself to it unknowingly.

I checked out his chart right away, and I truly believe he is EXTREEEEEEEEEMLY remorseful and ashamed of what he did. And for ME to say that is a mouthful because I ALWAYS give the woman the benefit of the doubt first, (unless she's the one cheating with a married guy)...

If his wife stays with him, I wouldn't think of her as weak, like I would the majority of women who "stay".

But back to the Sag Moon, I think by looking at the Sun/Moon combo would be the next step in forming any process of elimination...

posted February 28, 2004 05:43 PM         

yeah i believe the aries sun is the major factor. while an aries venus may not be good for long term - in the short term (whether it be 1 day, 2 weeks or 3 months), there is complete loyal devotion! anytime i am 'involved', the drive for exclusiveness is quite strong. im just not interested in a non-exclusive relationship as it destroys the romantic ideal.

personally i dont think you should turn aries venus away if you are looking for someone to grow old with. i know by now if i cant conceptualize the 'old couple' idea with a potential partner, i will end it by about 2 weeks. by 2 weeks, nobody really gets hurt and the romantic high will suffice. also the sag moon kicks into gear around this time and i start feeling hampered.. on the other hand, if i can conceptualize the 'old couple' idea, i know for a fact i would stay and give it my all.

posted February 28, 2004 11:53 PM         

Very cool... I will keep that in mind because I LOVE the Aries Venus or Mars. If you are familiar with T-Squares, my empty space is in Aries, and this is in my 12th House Cusp.

Aries Sun OR Moon (or anything) women are so very inspirational to me. Moreso than any other influences combined.

As for men, Sun or Moon is a bit too strong for my Cancer Moon, as well as my Venus & Pluto in Virgo. My attention to detail combined with ANY hint of my indecivesive Libra drives them BONKERS, and that hurts my feelings.

BTW - you mentioned the Juno factor. I know Juno to be = Soulmate

How do you like to graze over that Juno factor? Mine is in Pisces(R) in the 11th.

As for other determinants of partner material, from what I've learned here, someone with a Sag/Scorpio influence of some sort in their chart is good. So far Scorpio Suns or Rising are too much for me to maintain.

PS: Gwen Stefani hit the jackpot as far as I'm concerned. She also is a Libra with Cancer Moon, and Venus in Virgo like me. Her hubby is a Scorpio with Virgo Moon.

posted March 01, 2004 12:38 PM         

My dad is a Pisces Sag/Moon...

They cannot and will never be nailed down in the sense of being figured out because they never want to feel like you can control them. They are like children, they are wanderers, and have enormous imaginations. They are totally capable of being faithful, and all his Taurus will help too. But the greatest lesson he has to teach us is to appreciate the little things in life, and don't forget to laugh.

Don't control him or strip him of that, because he would let you if that meant keeping you. But it would make him miserable and you'd lose the best part of him forever.

.gloria

posted March 02, 2004 04:26 AM         

Thanks for your insight!!! Your very right about the control part and about the childlike bit, John is 'exactly' like that, which sometimes drives me crazy but at this stage I kind of know him and myself better so I've become more tolerant and accepting.
Nostalgia plays a major part in his daydreams 'back in the college days and if only he could live like that now and always'. No worries of any sort, no responsibilities.
Whats your Sun/Moon/Ris combo????

Thanks again!!!!

posted March 02, 2004 09:02 PM         

As for Sun/Moon "cheating", first you have to consider that what one couple might consider "cheating", another may not...

In my mind, if you have like a crazy amount unpredictable influences, like a ton of Gemini in your chart, or a ton of Pisces... then you may find "arrangements" which work well.

Sun & Moon in same signs of Sag, Cap, Aqua, Aries, Libra, Scorp... and maybe a confused Virgo...

As for Juno, it's one of those popular asteriods which includes:

Ceres - Style of Caring
Pallas - Battle Style
Vesta - Sex & Energy Investment

and of course Chiron - The Wounded Healer

You can find more info at:
www.astrology.ca/lessons

www.astrologyunlimited.com/women/wasteroids.htm

There's also Eros & Psyche

posted March 03, 2004 07:51 PM         

Ceres in Sagittarius: You are the Philosophical/Joyful Earth Goddess. You nurture the dreams, the horizons and the beliefs of the people that you love. You harbor and embrace what the world has to offer and explore it for those around you. You give self love when you take yourself into mind adventures and journeys and allow your intellect and your imagination to discover what life has planted on the horizon. You protect and nourish the future, spiritualities and joy.

Pallas in Scorpio: You are the Goddess Warrior of life, beauty, truth and death. Your wisdom is penetrating, occult, mysterious and profound. You use investigation and penetration to solve problems and issues in your world and you will fight for your rights and your needs with any tactic that is required. You are a nearly unbeatable adversary when you are defending a justice or a right. You do not leave a shadow unexplored nor a stone unturned in your searches.

Juno in Sagittarius: Your mate will tend to be liberal and outspoken, philosophical and competitive. You see your relationships as joyful Mecca's to explore the delights of the world and both demand and give personal freedom and independence. You balance a need to experience life on your own terms with sharing your ideals and visions with your life partner. Spiritual horizons are areas to explore together and provide a sense of competition and shared camaraderie that can strengthen your commitment to one another. Your mate is likely to have an avid interest in sports, competitions, law, philosophy, spirituality or the outdoors. This is shared ground that can help you build towards the future and keeps the relationship lively and renewed

Vesta in Leo: Your protect the flame of joy, love and healthy ego. Your focus is on becoming all that you can become and finding the faith and conviction to stand tall in both your talents and your attributes. Your mission is to help others learn the need for healthy ego, self belief and leadership. You are likely to deny yourself the right to believe in your qualities and gifts in your own search for spiritual wisdom and understanding. You may wear a cloak of utter humility that shields you from seeing your own glory and your own light. You can reach a space of integration where you can embrace and accept the gifts the universe has brought into your life which include love and self belief and hold yourself no higher nor lower than any other

.gloria....I swear you have been on my psychic phone line the past few days...every evening I do some research, and the next day there are posts here talking about what I was studying!!

How cool is that!?!
These are fun little descriptions, but I really love Bob Mark's descriptions of the asteroid influences. Juno talks about what you are likely to end up with in a mate, and Bob's blurb might as well have mentioned my ex's name, it was so accurate. Now I see why this demure little Virgo (NOT) ends up with these outrageous characters for boyfriends.....LOL I love it!!!

posted March 03, 2004 08:18 PM         

sorry, wandered outside and got lost.

im not familiar with t-squares yet. could you brief me a bit or link me?

thats kind of funny what you said about driving aries men bonkers. my closest friend who has the same birthday as you (different year - with cancer rising, gemini moon, libra venus & virgo mercury)says the same about her aries man too. other than that, they have the communication down (although explosive at times). i truly believe this is the happiest she has ever been in a relationship. she certainly shines around aries men. (she has had a not so good track record with scorpios)

i also read your thread about women being too intimidating. in a way, i do feel aries men can 'man-handle' it in this department and bring out the more feminine side of you, allowing you to roar as much as you want. personally i find virgos able to handle it in a way that other signs dont. you know what - my advice is to just act how you want and just find out which type you dont scare the sh*t out of! haha.

my juno is in capricorn in the 3rd. hey i guess im not that unstable! if only i could get pass the threshold....

posted March 03, 2004 11:30 PM         

You are welcome Dorkus.

Mother -
Looks like we are synchronized. (If only you and others could walk through my computer screen and into my life in person.)

Apple -
Quite an insight you included for me. WOW... big WOW...

First before I forget, info on a T-Square and other what they call "Aspect Patterns" - Go here and scroll down:
www.bobmarksastrologer.com/TOClessons.htm

I laughed when I read what you said about acting like I wanted around the guys to see who I didn't scare away. As for the Juno factor, you are right. Mine is in Pisces in the 11th house. For some reason I think this makes it even more difficult to find the right mate. It seems if it were as simple just needing to provide each other traditional roles, it would be easier.

But to find my friend... I've been saying here that I'm looking for a brotherly kind of love, more of a spiritual union, as well as an untraditional union. You just reminded me of my Juno placement which I'd not looked at for a while.

I truly felt this way for the first time with a guy in the last relationship I had.

For a few years now, I've been into all artistic and spiritual facets of Orlando, and not found anyone to connect with. As for a writers' club, I've been trying to find them around here, but the one or two I do find are just 4 or 5 old people, or they meet at 8am on a Saturday, which I cannot manage.

I'm not a morning person AT ALL...

But I totally understand what you are saying and I HAVE tried. Just makes it more apparent to me that I need to move. You know, to a place where the odds of single men to women (in their 30's or early 40's) is in my favor. Whenever I take those stupid psychological profile tests on Web sites for singles, it always tells me that only 2% of the women out there are like me, and only 12% of the men out there are looking for someone like me...

posted March 04, 2004 02:20 AM         

thats too bad..
the locale did cross my mind and ive been thinking about that. the northern california coast seems like it would be a good place for you. perhaps in the santa cruz vicinty youll find a beautiful biker with a spiritual hippie tip. in my experience, many there who are so hardcore and peace loving at the same time (not to mention that they also have wits of steel and dont do small talk). ..my favorite group of 'strangers' i have befriended..personally i want to move there just for the very cool people and ofcourse the nice scenery isnt bad either. unfortunately, i am stuck in the los angeles area for now. definitely dont move here. LA might be okay for ballsy women but certainly not spiritual enough, imo.

as far as broadening your social circle for potential relationships, the only other thing i can think of for you is along the same line - get a harley! (or do you own one already? ). for the small amount of time i have come to 'know' you, i can completely imagine you as a biker chick.

im with you - im so picky, i think i will always be 'perpetually single' (with the occasional love 'fling'). im okay with that..for now..

posted March 04, 2004 12:57 PM         

Thanks for being exasperatingly (sp)patient with helping me figure stuff like this out. It has not gone unnoticed, in fact, I greatly appreciate it and embrace it.

There's something about you, are you psychic?

There is the "biker" element to me, although I've not met any I like yet, but the ones I see come through here in recent weeks and months due to Biker Week, and October Bike Fest just make me swoon. I'm too shy to approach them.

Some of their culture is a turn off to me. But I'm sure there are others. One of my favorite books is "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintanence". So you are right about this crossing spirituality.

I totally feel like I need to run away these days. I hate it when property or material things hold me down, and that's what's been happening. I just want to fall in love. Someone to just hold me.

You cannot imagine how chilled to the bone I am feeling.

posted March 04, 2004 01:23 PM         

Thanks for the brief insight into LA.

I had thought about moving out there recently.

But now, I definitely don't think that I have a calling to be among all that superficiality though.

Whenever I hear about the place through people online, it just sounds like a very sad place to be if you're into deep spiritual searches and the like.

I guess I was sort of right about it being that sad of a place spiritually then, hey?

posted March 05, 2004 07:55 AM         

no problem and youre welcome.

arent we all psychic? my brain has been too dusty in the past couple of years so i suppose i will chalk this one up for arian intuition.

too shy?? throw those scorpio cojones into gear woman!

in the meantime, i will just send some good vibes your way.

--------------------------

hey playfulponderingfishmoon

where do you reside?

yes..perhaps if you block most of the people out, its not so sad. spirituality is even trendy here. i dont understand it sometimes. this place has a layer of pseudo-ness to it.