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The passenger
Knowflake

Posts: 117
From: Taipei, Taiwan
Registered: Jan 2004

posted February 28, 2004 12:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for The passenger     Edit/Delete Message
First of all, I've been posting several messages in the 'Health and Healing' section and I would like to apologise for my immature, arrogant attitude. I've learnt a valuable lesson- extremist attitudes simply won't result in anything constructive.

Now it's about the topic...like my message in 'Uni-versal Codes', I revealed the story about me and two people- A and B. A made a permanent impact on me, and I firmly believe that we had met in another life. Maybe it's my karmic debt. Now we're even. I don't hate him. Not any more.

At the same place I met A and B. A was a Libra with his Pluto conjuncting his Sun, a Capricorn ascendent and strong tenth house influences. I used to believe one day he would be invincible. However, he lied to me and treated me like an idiot- he betrayed me. I was left broken-hearted.

B is a Fish and I said in my previous message that he seems swimming down the stream. But maybe I wasn't quite right. All he seeks is spiritual enlightenment. He said 'just being', 'let go', and when I asked him what he wanted to do in this lifetime, he remarked 'healing'. Finally he's not a chef any more, I can imagine that he didn't really enjoy it, becaue he is a vegetarian. Now he's going to become an English teacher, which I believe he'll do it well, for Pisceans are wonderful teachers!

So I am trying to move on...perhaps we are not Twin Selves, but he brings me love, peace and joy. He truly cares. Maybe it's time to forget about A. Who knows? We (me and B) are probably Twin Selves, it's just I'm not yet aware of it.

But I remember what he said to me...no expectations...at present I'm happy enough to remain friends with him, although I long for something beyond...Gosh, I care for him so much!

Being a Water Bearer, I've always tended to be drawn to Librans, and sometimes Pisceans. Pisces is my favourite sun sign. I admire their spirit.

Time to move on...I have a brighter tomorrow and I should just get rid of the shadow from yesterday...I love that Fish. He's a rare wonder.

Let go
Fear not
No expectations
Love
Peace
Joy
Gaze upon the stars and listen to them
Conversations with God

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Dana

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astro junkie
Knowflake

Posts: 1505
From: orlando, fl
Registered: Nov 2003

posted February 28, 2004 03:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Passenger -

Well, I don't believe I've ever been within the same thread with you...

So hello, nice to meet you...

First rule of life, if you cannot choose between two lovers, IT'S NEITHER...

Secondly, I've learned my lesson enough to know that when a guy just wants to keep things cool like that, and you do too. OK... I mean, if you have time to burn.

BUT if HE's controlling the tempo of the relationship, (which is a REEEEEEALY BAD sign if you're allowing it), and YOU want MORE than what he wants... girl you are right on track. Be good to your heart.

I've had my share of boyfriends, lovers, soul mates, karmic twins, etc. So YES, there will be more of one in each department in one's lifetime. If you are astute you will be aware of certain patterns, cues and signs which will put together a nice working of the universe for you.

But if you already know what you want, and you are READY, don't waste your time like I did. Your heart will belong to many, but only one will have your undivided attention - and he'll be the one who gives you his undivided attention FIRST...

.gloria

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Stella
Knowflake

Posts: 22
From: oregon,usa
Registered: Feb 2004

posted February 29, 2004 03:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stella     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Gloria,
I'm often impressed with what you write. It hit home when you said if you have to choose between two lovers, its neither. This is something I figured out for myself not too long ago. I would like to know you more if you'd like to share. I'm curious about your life/love experiences and your age, as well as your astro. You can private message me at nerdbooker@yahoo.com or post here.
Thanks and please keep being you!
stella

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The passenger
Knowflake

Posts: 117
From: Taipei, Taiwan
Registered: Jan 2004

posted February 29, 2004 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The passenger     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you gloria...A belonged to the past...he's out of touch and I will never visit his homeland. I know B belongs to my everlasting present...we've exchanged the phrase 'I love you' and I believe he knows that I do have special feeling towards him. We contact each other frequently. I'm not going to let A haunt my life forever. I used to firmly believe that A was my curse. But now I just don't give a sh*t. When B's around I am so happy. I love being with him. I need not hesitate. I finally have realised it.

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Dana

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astro junkie
Knowflake

Posts: 1505
From: orlando, fl
Registered: Nov 2003

posted February 29, 2004 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Passenger - Very cool...


Stella -

Gee! Thanks!
You'll find all my b-day info in my Profile. I'm Demi Moore years old and have never been married. I've never LOOKED to be married. Recently I feel it would benefit me, and I'm also feeling very ready.

It may be Pluto transiting my empty 7th House. And as soon as Neptune completed transiting my Jupiter & Saturn, things became even more clear. (I'm learning about transits)...

Have you seen my posts regarding what I believe to be a jinxed 4th House? I've never felt like my family was my real family. I don't mean I was adopted, beause I wasn't. Just like some people get the feeling their family is not theirs. I can relate to the DYNAMICS of the family and what my purpose is, moreso than relating to the individuals themselves.

Here's the info which I've been seriously researching in reference to a jinxed 4th::

Black Moon (True) - Leo in 4th hs. 22.23
Lilith Asteroid - Leo in 4th hs. 17.46
Uranus - Leo in 4th hs. 28.46
North Node (True) - Leo in 4th hs. 26.25
Psyche - Leo in 4th hs. 26.31

Venus - Virgo in 4th hs. 11.28
Pluto - Virgo in 4th hs. 8.55

* My 4th House Cusp = Ruled by Leo 14.51

* Libra Sun in 5th hs. (5th House is ruled by Leo)

* My 7th House Cusp is in Scorpio - Pluto is in the 4th HOUSE!

* Singleton = Uranus in Leo is the ONLY fire sign

* Also Pars Fortunae is in Leo, 3rd hs 13.15


All things "lilith" are extremely confusing. Only after HOURS and HOURS of research did I find the truth about them.

So as you can see, I have a lot of emphasis on my 4th, and although I've always wanted a close family, it's been nothing but problems.

Well, I don't know what else you want to know, but this is the crux of my learning right now.

Oh, and also I have a T-Square which magnifies my Moon in Cancer opposing my Jupiter & Saturn in Capricorn, causing trouble striking a balance bewteen the emotional me and the logical me.

.gloria

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Stella
Knowflake

Posts: 22
From: oregon,usa
Registered: Feb 2004

posted February 29, 2004 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Stella     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Gloria,
thanks for your reply. I wish I knew what all the transit info. and all that you included meant but I'm still a beginner in astrology. I''ve mostly learned about the sun and major planets for present personality. I haven't learned how to read in my horoscope what is presently occuring. It is wonderful to hear a confident women who is ready for marriage, especially because it seems you have evulated your reasons instead of being one of the many followers. The struggle with being independent vs. coupled is one that is a struggle for me. I think its because I have so much pisces and aquarius in me. But I think because of my pisces sun and moon and my cancer parents that i feel quite okay with needing someone to love and be loved by. I mean what else is really the point of life, okay perhaps I'm being a bit dramatic but I am a romantic and realtionships are probably the most important thing in my life. My realtionship to myself being the most. Anyway I'm not sure I completly follow all your trains of thought on your other post about Signs & influences - Needing to Need but can't...but maybe someone else will have some words of wisdom for you.
Also thanks for the astro onine website-BOB someday, one of these days I will start to learn more.
Cheerrs
Stella

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astro junkie
Knowflake

Posts: 1505
From: orlando, fl
Registered: Nov 2003

posted March 01, 2004 12:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Stella -

I understand what you mean about beginning and learning too. All of us have been there. Think of a transit like this:: you are in your home, and let's say your home is your chart with your Sun, Moon, Mercury, etc. in all their permanent places at birth. Your NATAL.

And as you sit in this house with your FIXED planetary positions, the planets are moving all around you out there. And say, the Sun is currently in Pisces, which it is.

YOUR fixed Natal Sun is in Pisces, and so is your Moon, like you just told me. So you have the Sun out there hovering over your Natal home. While it's doing that and moving along, it's called a Transit.

The Moon "out there" is currently in the position of Cancer, hovering over your Natal home, and moving along. So you would say, "Moon in Cancer is transiting my Natal Sun in Pisces, and my Natal Moon in Pisces".

Just to take some of the mystery of the lingo out of it.

Do you know what "aspects" are in your Natal chart? Like when they tell you your Sun is Conjunct your Moon in Pisces, do you understand what they mean by that?

.gloria

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pidaua
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Posts: 1820
From: Annapolis, Maryland USA
Registered: May 2002

posted March 01, 2004 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm, well, passenger, I think your rhetoric was very extremist in nature. The fact that you think you are right about the consumption of animals to the point where all other consumers are commiting some kind of cardinal sin is absolutely extreme in thought.

I countered your claims based on scientific data, not only from my own background in biology and chemistry, but from my experience at feedlots, dairies, egg laying facilities, broilers houses and so on. You on the other hand, used your own subjective - emotional- feelings, to try to push your views onto other people. Now, you ARE entitled to those opinions, but you must ALLOW for others as well.

What is that phrase......hmmm..."Don't dish it out if you cannot take it"

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The passenger
Knowflake

Posts: 117
From: Taipei, Taiwan
Registered: Jan 2004

posted March 25, 2004 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The passenger     Edit/Delete Message
gloria...

Maybe you were just so right about IT'S NEITHER...I've just found new love. UNFORTUNATELY, it is forbidden love. We are not supposed to fall in love with each other due to the roles we play, but my feelings for him intesifies every single day. Geez, I don't want hurt anymore. I don't want to lose my love again. I don't want to lose him.

I'm in trouble again...

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astro junkie
Knowflake

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From: orlando, fl
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posted March 25, 2004 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Dana -

I'm in trouble again too - so join the club. Could be we both end up with men who are emotionally unavailable.

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The passenger
Knowflake

Posts: 117
From: Taipei, Taiwan
Registered: Jan 2004

posted March 26, 2004 07:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for The passenger     Edit/Delete Message
Hi astro junkie,

I just...can't help it.

All I could do was giggling when I read your post, in the meantime I just wondered why on earth I always get into sticky situations. Okay, I don't have to have him, but I don't want to lose him. He is important to me. I'd rather we stay this way- just playing our roles, which is rather pathetic. I fear that he might drift away or the opposite- fall for me. I am not fantasising. Believe me, I wish I didn't have such feelings towards him.

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Dana

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