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Virgo-AriesArtist
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posted March 23, 2004 07:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Ok...I hope I'm not bugging the heck out of you guys here with my fixation over this relationship, but here goes:
Below is a pic of the composite chart (using mid-point method) of my Gemmy and me.
I'm not expert on composites, having only studied synastry, and would love some thoughts on it. I've been led to believe that composites indicate the "blue print" of the relationship itself, and how the world views it from the outside? Is that so? What else could you tell me on composites?
Thanks for your help.

Composite Horoscope midpoint method

PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Leo 08°41'50 06/7
Sun is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.
Moon Gemini 15°11'41 05
Mercury Leo 14°00'57 07
Venus Cancer 14°13'55 06
Mars Leo 10°16'31 06/7
Mars is technically near the end of house 6 and is interpreted in house 7.
Jupiter Pisces 15°56'03 01/2
Jupiter is technically near the end of house 1 and is interpreted in house 2.
Saturn Sagittarius 05°15'07 10
Uranus Sagittarius 19°23'21 11
Neptune Capricorn 03°52'03 11
Pluto Scorpio 05°11'03 09
True Node Aries 24°14'49 03


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Aquarius 11°16'22
2nd House Pisces 17°46'50
3rd House Aries 19°23'26
Imum Coeli Taurus 17°41'16
5th House Gemini 13°00'09
6th House Cancer 08°42'43
Descendant Leo 11°16'22
8th House Virgo 17°46'50
9th House Libra 19°23'26
Medium Coeli Scorpio 17°41'16
11th House Sagittarius 13°00'09
12th House Capricorn 08°42'43

and

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posted March 23, 2004 07:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Hi there, the two things that pop out at me the most are Pluto in Scorpio/9th house, and Moon in Gemini/5th house. Gemini Moon in 5th says your relationship feels good, comfortable and warm. There is passion, cuddling, warmth and it feels good to both of you. It's in Gemini so communication through words is important to the heart of the relationship.

Pluto in the 9th says discovery from traveling, or learning. It's in Scorpio, so deep discoveries are being made. There is a lot of change and growth within each individual and as a couple. This relationship will change you. For that reason it seems serious, to both.

Saturn at the top of the chart speaks about limitations, and authority, I am not sure what that about, is there a limitation in the relationship?
The ascendant is Aquarius, again talking and communication are important.

All those planets in the sixth, there must be a purpose..

Virgo Aries, what do you make of the sixth house feel of the relationship, do you work together?

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posted March 23, 2004 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Well, Natasha, hmmmm....sixth house feel to the relationship...aside from the fact that I have a gut feeling we'd do great as business partners (him handling the people and me handling the paperwork), I guess we just seem to work amazing well together doing any project, from detailing/cleaning his car, to running erands, etc..

Limitations to the relationship? Aside from the distance at this point, I'm not exactly sure if our parents, more precisely moms (Saturn, and all it deals with family) are both in agreement on their support of a longterm romantic committment and partnership, which I'm not even sure will materialize at this point, but still. It puts a certain damper on things at this point....in a way.

Communication through words being especially important...I would most definitely agree wholeheartedly. I think it's our mental affinity that drew us together in the first place, and keeps us close. I think he loves how I write him letters, and I treaure his just as much. I am thinking of sending him a recent poem I wrote about him and the future, so words will again play a potentially pivotal role as I can't talk on the phone with him as much as I'd like.

Thanks tons for the response and the insight, dear Taurean/Sag.

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posted March 24, 2004 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
...to the top
Anyone else have any thoughts?

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posted March 24, 2004 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for proxieme     Edit/Delete Message

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posted March 24, 2004 08:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I am back, the moon in the 5th is what I recall, and it means a romantic relationship, possibly physical, the sparks are there. But it's in Gemini which is kind of bratty. Writing is also ruled by Gemini and one of you may want to write about your experience as in to publish. Or you may find yourself wanting to express this relationship to the world in the way of a partnership.

And if his 10th house is strong that may mean he would want a partnership. my feeling is that the more you are a partner to him, in the world, the stronger his mental attachment to you. So your instincts are correct in not kissing him when you want to, something else is what he is looking for and you know it. You can hang in there forever, but he'll be there.

The question is "Is that what you want"? I have been in love with Geminis before myself and it's tough when you are far away, even though they can handle it, can you?

Another thing you can do is post the composite, but written not an image, under astro.com horoscopes choose Partner and a composite will come up. If you post that here it won't expire.

If there is a work purpose for both of you, try it. Sixth house composite Sun says nurturing, and one of you, I don't know which, needs constant practical nurturing. Small things, like back rubs, hot tea, encouragement. But which one, and how do you do that from far away. Eventually you will both need to be close, but you will both need space and independence too.

You are saying how is that possible? Well imagine a pet, you need constant affection, but both of you need space in order to feel independent of each other. It's about constant nurturing and affection. But I hope that you get all the affection you need. It's very tough for you to express yourself already, be sure to push him as hard as you can before looking at another.

I'm not saying you are not devoted, but I mean before you question him in your mind, be sure to give him regular encouragement to express himself. He will need it, he's not the zombie, sex crazed kind, so you have nothing to fear. Do not be inhibited in what you want to say to him.

Natasha
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posted March 24, 2004 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm....I fixed the image file thing. Now the written data is back up where the chart pic used to be. Thanks for noticing, prox.

Natasha...
I'm kinda on a few of the points you brought up:

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And if his 10th house is strong that may mean he would want a partnership. my feeling is that the more you are a partner to him, in the world, the stronger his mental attachment to you. So your instincts are correct in not kissing him when you want to, something else is what he is looking for and you know it. You can hang in there forever, but he'll be there.

What do you mean about strong 10th house wanting a "partnership"?
And why is is good that I didn't kiss him when I wanted to, aside from my nervousness?
And what is is with me hanging in forever and he'll be there? What about the composite indicates that?

I think I can handle the distance for a while longer, since even thinking of him makes me smile from the inside out, and how he treats me, its just touching beyond measure.

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one of you, I don't know which, needs constant practical nurturing. Small things, like back rubs, hot tea, encouragement. But which one, and how do you do that from far away. Eventually you will both need to be close

In my opinion, that one would be him, since my ego is fairly intact, but my momma haa always provided that for me, the few times I crash, and she's an Aries moon too, with Aries rising. I'm great at nurturing as I am an excellent person for providing and enjoying simple comforts, back rubs, and the like. I do plan on moving anyhow, as Michigan has never felt like home (home for me is whereever people I care most about are, and my mom will generally follow me whereever, as she like adventure with 3 planets in Sag ), and whereever he ends up, Colorado, or Missouri as it's where he was raised, I'd follow in a heartbeat. I'm betting on Missouri, as he's real tied emotionally there, and the pluses would be his other bro and sis (who's my BFF) want to move that direction too.

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It's very tough for you to express yourself already, be sure to push him as hard as you can before looking at another.

I'm not saying you are not devoted, but I mean before you question him in your mind, be sure to give him regular encouragement to express himself. He will need it, he's not the zombie, sex crazed kind, so you have nothing to fear.



Huh? "Push him as hard as I can before looking to another"? Why would I look to another? And how would I have to push him?
How do you feel I'm questioning him in my mind? Express himself how? To me?
And what about him needing it, encouragement I mean? And not being "the zombie, sex-crazed kind"...how does that figure in?

Sorry to be questioning your advice so much, but I just like to clarify details, being a strong Virgo and all.

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posted March 24, 2004 10:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Sorry you are right that is unclear, what I meant is keep sending him signals. You are an assertive Virgo, which is good. So that's okay, the next thing was the 10th house likes slow and steady partners. You may want to show him unconciously that you can hang in there, by your actions, which are louder than words. I was reading your actions towards as saying "I will be here".
He would like that, if you are moving to be close to him, and that doesn't bother you,

Then that's clear. If he's going to move you will follow, because you have a partnership. I can see the 10th house clearly now. BTW the 1st and 10th house work well together, not everyone knows that Capricorn and Aries energy work well together. You respect each other.

I am looking for signs of a partnership, not just a romantic relationship and I see signs of a strong one forming.

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posted March 25, 2004 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
It's hard for me to be completely objective right now, since I have my own Gemini situation brewing right now. You know what I mean, we also have the moon in the 5th in Gemini.

It's funny how those Geminis grab you,
I wanted a nice sane, Aqua or Capricorn, but I got a Gemini, so now I am processing everything.

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posted March 25, 2004 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, Natasha, I hear ya. Gemmy men are pretty darn irresistable, in a good, amazing, confusingly sweet way.
Signals...Like keep sending letters, right? And would you include that poem I wrote about caring about his future?
I'm real good at hanging in there...we Virgos do that sort of thing best
I'd follow him, no matter where...::sigh:: and I'm glad it would please him to know that. I have a loyal Leo/Virgo heart.
Yes, it feels nice to be respected my him, and even better that it's mutual.
I am pleased to hear that our partnerships shows signs of being strong. That's basically what my gut has said all along, but having it confirmed is a plus.
I know you're not terribly objectve right now about Geminis, but don't worry Natasha. I think your involvment with one, especially since both our relationships have 5th house Gemini moons, adds an aura of true understanding to your observations/comments. A personal touch, per se, cause we're both experience similarities.
I thought I wanted a nice predictable Taurus, Cappy, or Scorpio...what I got, well it was/is a pleasant surprise, opening my eyes to the truest love, purest warmth I've experienced, and I'm lovin it...and him.

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posted March 31, 2004 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
to the top...does any one else have any observations or comments on the chart or situation? I'm curious...

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posted March 31, 2004 11:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Have you been checking both your transits? This helps a lot in evaluating the relationship.

I noticed that the Sun is technically in the 7th which is a lot better than the 6th. I didn't want to say that yet until I had finished more research on me and my ex. We had the composite in the 6th and it was not strong enough-the relationship was based on too many material things.

I like the 7th aspect of your composite, mental stimulation is doubly important, any more letters from him lately?

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posted March 31, 2004 01:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Nope, Natasha, no letters recently. I did write him and my BFF, Tara on Monday. I picked that day so it'll hopefully arrive before "Retrograde", which'll affect us both pretty hard. Maybe we'll visit over the summer, when there are thankfully no Retrogrades til August Hope to hear from him soon, though, well, as long as the communication doesn't get too tangled... I care about him sooo much.
Thanks for responding. I will check out the transits, but I don't know how to do that for a composite chart...

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posted March 31, 2004 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Dont be blue, I am sure he will be happy to get your letter, to check the transits for a composite it's tougher. You have to look at the image for the composite and then check the transits to see how they would affect the relationship. It's probably a good idea to get help with this, for example if Pluto and mercury are in retrogade, then you already know about communication.

Saturn transits would affect him strongly, it's easier in my book, to read your individual transits and then look at the composite. Then suddenly things make sense.

He does appreciate your letters, Geminis love to be appreciated that way, and responded to.

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posted April 01, 2004 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Natasha...I coulda sworn I responded to this, but it isn't showing up, so....
I'm hoping he'll be pleasantly pleased to get my letter....
It's good to know that Gemmy's are fond of written communication like letters. I'll keep that in mind, as I am best in writing too. I think it's more tangible, and easiest to express gut feelings on paper.
I think he has come sort of major Saturn transits going on right now (Saturn in Cancer to his Mercury/Mars conjunct in Cancer), and this is worth looking into further. The current position of Pluto in Sag shouldn't bother him much, as it's likely in his first house... Hmmmm....much to ponder.

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posted April 23, 2004 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Just waiting out the Merc Rx before expecting or sending letters....darn Mercury, move your silly winged shoes direct already! This Aries Rising is getting way past impatient.

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posted April 24, 2004 10:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I know it seems that mercury retrogade DOES make it tougher where Geminis are concerned. I won't even see the Geminis I know until May, mainly because they all want to play!

You could write the letters now and get ready to Mail them on May 1st!

Natasha
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