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sthenri
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posted March 26, 2004 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, I have a composite to share, but I thought I'd tell you what he is like in flesh and blood first. I asked him out, not the other way around BTW. He is a talented artist in the area.
Our first date consisted of us talking over coffee and food, and I paid complete attention to everything I could. You know how Geminis like to talk. We read and talked together. He was very courteous and opened doors, that kind of thing without me noticing.

So he was kind and gracious and funny, and all of that but a little reserved. At the end, I left him with a hug since he looked kind of lost and I didn't really expect to see him again since he was reserved at the end. I am getting used to this dating stuff. Okay.

Then he calls and tells me he is dating someone and felt bad that he didn't tell me this before. So I get really angry and tell him off without wanting to. Then he told me to call him again. i did and he acted irritated. Then he called me and was surprised that I was mad, we had lunch and we decided to be friends for now. Which works.

Then last week he called me up. Basically he is looking to leave the Cancer if I am attracted to him. I told him no way, i don't want that on my head. He then refused to listen and is now very hard headed about everything.

What do you think? I get angry, happy, upset, scared, it's hard to think. I don't know if I can be attracted to him. I get very attracted at times, but it's because he looks good. But so did the Capricorn. It's the inside that counts but he is asking me to make a decision so soon that affects his life and hers. He doesn't know what he is playing with since my Pluto/10th house has a lot of influence over others.

To confuse things more, he is wealthy from his parent's family and independent, but supporting the Cancer. So where would she go, or is it my problem?

I have challenges with giving affection (hugs) in a relationship, in other words I get bored easily and have a hard time maintaining romance. I get smothered easily at the same time need affection?

Here is our composite, the house is on th end, sun, mercury, moon and venus are all in the fifth house.
I leave it to you
Knowflakes:

Composite
Composite Horoscope
midpoint method
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Gemini 07°42'04 05
Moon Gemini 07°41'43 05
Mercury Gemini 03°52'08 05
Venus Taurus 26°21'51 05
Mars Pisces 03°05'17 02
Jupiter Cancer 19°36'02 07
Saturn Aries 03°44'13 03
Uranus Virgo 18°05'54 08
Neptune Scorpio 21°29'06 10
Pluto Virgo 17°03'12 08
True Node Taurus 15°08'11 04

HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Capricorn 16°58'44
2nd House Aquarius 26°26'33
3rd House Aries 00°40'27
Imum Coeli Taurus 00°29'57
5th House Taurus 26°17'01
6th House Gemini 20°08'04
Descendant Cancer 16°58'44
8th House Leo 26°26'33
9th House Libra 00°40'27
Medium Coeli Scorpio 00°29'57
11th House Scorpio 26°17'01
12th House Sagittarius 20°08'04

If you want to see our natal placements, let me know...

Thanks and Take Care
Natasha
Taurus


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lioneye68
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posted March 26, 2004 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lioneye68     Edit/Delete Message
What are you looking for, Natasha? A casual fun thing, or a new husband? If it's the former, a Gem is good for that, but what about the sensitive crab girl? You don't need to create bad Karma for yourself, that's for sure.
If it's the latter, I'd keep looking...although he may be more settled if he is mature.
His sun, as well as the composite sun/moon/merc fall in your 7th house, which is a good sign. Lot's of Saturn sextiles too, which is good.

But, Natasha...aiche...being the "other woman" and playing a part in breaking another woman's heart, especially a crab....? I wouldn't want any part of that either.

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sthenri
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posted March 26, 2004 06:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Not a casual thing with any man, maybe on a tropical island but not in my life. I know, I don't want to hurt a Cancer either, that's why I was asking. I have to debate these things sometimes especially when the man is attractive. I wish people I didn't see the outer shell.

Natasha

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astro junkie
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posted March 26, 2004 08:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
So let me get this right...

He's basically asking you if he should leave HER for YOU?

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sthenri
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posted March 26, 2004 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Yes Gloria, basically, or at least for some reassurance that I wil be there if he leaves her. What I am concerned about is where does that leave her? He doesn't seem to be interested in that question, for some reason they were already really distant with each other. She is never around now, or else always traveling.

So he is almost always single.
Even though he likes to see himself as a couple, she is never around? Maybe that's why he is unhappy? He has Venus and Mercury in Cancer. He's pretty domesticated.

But I don't know him well enough to commit on any intimate level. He has a Taurus moon and Mars, he's being really hard headed about the entire thing.

Natasha

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Radna
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posted March 27, 2004 12:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radna     Edit/Delete Message
Alright girl, I'm a Gemini, not the same as him, but maybe I can help.

First off, he is very confused, he likes you, because you are new and exciting and you have something new to offer.

He prolly still likes her, but hasn't been with her for more than 9 months at the most i would say. She and he are at the stage where you start to learn all the things you don't like about the other. He wants a reason to dump her other than he doesn't like the way she does something he hadn't noticed before. He likes you because he doesn't notice all of those little things yet. But if you 2 are right for eachother, when that time comes he will be able to see past the things he doesn't like to what really matters.

Now I would say that if he does break up with her, be his freind for a while, talk to him and get close with him if possible. If you 2 do get together then keep it light for a while. There is nohting that a Gemini likes more than a challange or a mystery....

Learn his ins' and outs' before you let yourself get too deeply involved with him.....

Sorry if this is a little brutal, but i am a Gemini, and i know us well lol, we are so 2 sided we confused ourselves.

= ) Radna

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Aphrodite
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posted March 27, 2004 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aphrodite     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome Radna!

This is the best piece of Gemini advice I've ever read, because it can be applied to so many things.

Aphrodite

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astro junkie
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posted March 27, 2004 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Natasha -

Just woke up and finally made it over here.

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lovely libra
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posted March 27, 2004 08:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovely libra     Edit/Delete Message
Well I may be brutal but it has been my experience that if a man will leave his current mate for you, that 9 times out of 10 he will leave you for the next girl who excites him.

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~indecision may or may not be my problem

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quiksilver
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posted March 27, 2004 10:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for quiksilver     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Natasha,

Point out to the Gemini that if he is truly unhappy, he would leave this Cancer girl either way - whether you are going to be around for him or not. Tell him that you are not well informed enough to help make him a decision regarding this because HE has the history with her. And YOU don't know anything about that. (Ok, except for what he tells you but for what it's worth, I wouldn't pay too much attention to what a Gem says, moreso what they do or do not do). Given that their relationship really has nothing to do with you, the ball is in his court. He's gotta decided what to do whether he likes it or not. Don't promise to be around for him even if he does leave her. And big deal about him being attractive. Most likely he won't be in 50 yrs. and if you're serious about him, it'll take more than that to keep him around. I tend to actually keep the "attractive" ones at arm's length. Many times they just rely on their supposed charm and looks to get by in life (more likely to get away with things) and there are few things that I disrespect more than this. Show me someone who had to fight and struggle for everything she or he has attained and I am infinitely more inspired. Anyway, I'm going off on a tangent again!! As usual!!

Anyway, this guy just sounds weak to me; another trait I have little use for. (Damn, I'm in an intolerant mood today!) He needs to take a stand and go after what he wants, letting the chips fall where they may. Life is about risks and taking them, not hoping that something will happen or shooting for a "sure thing". That's what I think anyway. Guess my viewpoint is slightly tinged since my progressed sun is in Aries, even though my natal sun is Pisces. Talk about polar opposites. Anyway, don't get sucked into the good looks thing. When you're with him, try to "figuratively" close your eyes and listen to what he's saying, without focusing on his face. Picture him looking like an ugly, bratty kid if you have to. That way, you'll be concentrating on what he's saying and doing and will be able to conduct a better analysis of his character without the bias of a looking at the pretty face, body, or whatever. It may sound harsh, but in order to make sound decisions, the senses must be "shut down", if you will. I know it's tough for a Taurus and even tougher for someone like me since I'm a Pisces and emotion is never far behind but it has to be done. The difference between humans and animals lies in our advanced reasoning and deductive powers. Let's use that gift whenever possible to make *practical* decisions. (Had to throw that word in there to drive the idea home since you're a bull )

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astro junkie
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posted March 27, 2004 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
How about telling him that you don't date guys who've just had a break up. You give them one or two months to recover first.

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Radna
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posted March 27, 2004 11:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Radna     Edit/Delete Message
Alright, why does everyone bash Gems? I'm a damn cool person, and have been married for years, happily I might add to an aqua. Typically Gems and Taurus's don't get along (I know from experience), but with all things, love conquors all....be true to yourself and the rest will follow = )

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astro junkie
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posted March 28, 2004 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Every Taurus / Gemini combo I've seen has worked out quite well...

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quiksilver
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posted March 28, 2004 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for quiksilver     Edit/Delete Message
Hey,
I know i haven't met every gemini in the world but of all the male geminis i've come across, not a one has really been truthful and not a one has been faithful in a relationship. That's just my experience but hey, like I said, I don't know em all. Maybe the girls are different.....

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posted March 28, 2004 10:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgo-AriesArtist     Edit/Delete Message
Natasha...
So how's the situation with your Gemmy guy going? What the latest news, and have you been in contact with him lately?

Oh, and with the Merc/Venus placement in Cancer, I bet he is feeling emotionally abandoned...likely also realizes you offer a ton more stability and a whole lot less moodniness than she does, but doesn't know how to cut the ties of dependence with her, so she doesn't hate him, cause that would bother him almost more than actually leaving her, since he is so sensitive.


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-K
"Most people love with restraint
As if they were someday to hate
We hated gently, carefully
As if we were someday to love"-Venus Trines at Midnight

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sthenri
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posted March 28, 2004 10:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Lovely Libra, Quicksilver, I hear what you are saying and I am just as cautious as you say. It is hard Quiksilver to avoid the good looks thing when you are a Taurus-you are so right.

Our senses take over:>

I am used to this challenge, but it's good to hear it again. I like him but he does need to stand on his own two feet for a while. I don't really think he will leave her since she holds on to things, and he likes that. His pisces ascendant feels protected by her Cancer Sun. I think he is not into taking chances, or at least he is bitter.

Sometimes he comes off a little bitter about her, but he won't say why. I guess I like a good mystery, all I know is she is moody, quiet, away a lot, is dependent financially, and had a terrible childhood. Those are based on my observations not his. I wouldn't like to live with her either.

Yes he is living with her, I just don't see him living alone, with his Venus and Mercury in Cancer, Taurus moon/2nd house, mercury and Mars and Pisces ascendant. He likes stability.

You are correct Virgo Aries, he does not like moods, but does he have the confidence to go after what he wants instead of picking apart everything that's good? We all have to take chances in life. I can't do it for him.

There is a fine line between living your dream and picking it apart and destroying it. I would happily help him with his dream but I don't want any of mine destroyed or taken away from me.

But I will be his friend, that's all I can do for now.

Geminis are funny and sweet but can be suddenly unhappy and moody for no reason (especially with a lot of Cancer)-I have loved a Gemini before and we worked well together as a team, only I had to watch his moods. Geminis like attention, and a Taurus is sometimes slow to give it.

But I do have Mercury in Gemini/7th house conjunct my Sun and trine Uranus so we understand each other pretty well.

Natasha
Taurus

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