posted June 14, 2004 03:25 AM         

there are two men in my life with whom I have the Sun square Saturn aspect. According to Linda it is a bond which is hard to break despite ourselves...Can anyone give me some more insight into it?

posted June 14, 2004 07:35 AM         

I have this with my Libra guy "friend", he's the Sun person, I'm the Saturn person. But his Moon is ruled by Saturn, so...

"Sun opposite or square Saturn:

Like the lions and hyenas of the jungle, these two people will tend to be wary of each other. It tends to bring mistrust and frustration of each other's ambitions. The Saturn person will often be disappointed in the Sun person's lack of responsibility, character or lack of honor. Conflict based on jealousy is common."

OR

posted June 14, 2004 02:40 PM         

Do you remember which of Linda's books you read that in?

posted June 14, 2004 02:47 PM         

But my husband and I have that mutually, albeit w/ different luminaries.
My Saturn (Virgo) is loosely trine his Taurus Moon and his Saturn (Scorpio) is rather tightly trine my Pisces Sun.

posted June 14, 2004 04:30 PM         

But that was just it...
we're both the "Saturn" person in different respects...
so would I be "restraining"/stabilizing (in a good way...trine) for his emotions and he for me w/ my "self"?
Or would it take a different form?

posted June 14, 2004 05:30 PM         

It could be an Aquarius type of energy because I am usually respectful towards older Aquarians in general, many have proved instrumental in changing my life in some way.

I have been married twice and both men had Saturn opposite my Moon in Cancer.
I do believe Saturn conjunct another's Ascendant is another important aspect- life long relationship. The Saturn person will be the one to initiate contact and be attracted physically to the Ascendant person.

posted June 14, 2004 06:42 PM         

Yeah, you're probably right about that. I have a feeling someone's going to say that the Houses they are in matter too. But I just don't know enough about it.

posted June 15, 2004 12:58 PM         

thanks to all your replies. There is something very wierd in the case of these two guys.

One of them was very much my type, there was something very romantic - and according to the compatibility charts checked by one astrologer - a very good match...But nothing has some out, I do not have any kind of contact on him nor even his surname and nobody wants to help me find him, like if he was 'damned'(I know it sounds crazy but I have never seen so much jealousy and badness in connection to my quite innocent search...)

On the other hand the other guy - with whom I am now involved it is sometimes like a Red Hot Chilli Pepper and sometimes like a Sweet and Sour sauce...But somehow we are bond together, despite the fact that our compatibility chart does not look so perfect and we are much more of contrasting personalities than with the other one...

It seems like if it is a one big karmic lesson(I do have the North Node in the 7th house in Saggitarius...)

posted June 16, 2004 02:28 PM         

I'll just do a review/comparison of my last two relationships::

Libra Cappy/Moon in the 1st House guy -

His Sun Sq my Saturn
His Mercury Sq my Saturn
His Mars Opp my Saturn

(From the interpretations I've seen on these aspects, I'm supposed to make him feel oppressed. But I wonder what how his Moon influence would see it? And by no means, would I say, that I'm ultimately the "together" or "disciplined" one. We have a calming affect on each other).

Taurus Aqua/Moon guy -

My Mercury Trine his Saturn
My Mars Trine his Saturn

His Sun Trine my Saturn
His Mars Opp my Saturn

(He had a ton of faith in me, and still does. But he also had this thing about starting arguments with people, and even with me, even if it's just fun to him).

posted June 17, 2004 05:40 PM         

My oldest and most difficult relationship is with my mother, her sun is opposite my saturn but her saturn is trine my sun, my saturn and conjunct my pluto, jupiter and midheaven.

So even though there is coldness she keeps coming back because basically we are so alike in our basic needs. It's a difficult one.

I have better luck with Aquas even though that squares my Saturn. I would say the opposition is much harder than the square, so it's not the end of the world.

posted July 23, 2004 10:36 AM         

I have a double aspect of sun square saturn with my guy.
ie. his sun squares my saturn, my sun squares his saturn.

we get along just fine, every now and then there is a little vibration from a bad aspect coming through, but that seems to happen more when we are apart than when we are together =)

linda says that sun square saturn is a hard enough bond to break, but "should you be among those rare few with a double influence of this aspect between you, then the bond linking you together, instead of being difficult to break, may be impossible to break, no matter how hard you may try to do so." (Relationship Signs, p. 87).

one of the main things linda mentions with this aspect, is that because of the strong bond, you are forced to stick it out and learn from one another the lessons that must be taught. you have to endure the tough times, due to whatever you did to hurt one another in a past life, but if you can get past it, you're all the wiser. it's better than submitting to negativity. perhaps some associations, with enough negative aspects in addition to this one, would be best left to another furture incarnation. but i think most of the time, we should be able to overcome any of these influences. you have to love!

posted August 06, 2004 04:49 AM         

I see that since so many people have replied on this thread the Saturn square Sun really is one of the most aspects in astrology!