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PhoenixRising
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posted August 26, 2004 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
can anyone please throw some light on these aspects in a synastry-
juno conjunct saturn
vertex conjunct juno
part of fortune conjunct north node
i have a lot of venus conjunctions (with merc /pluto/saturn/vertex/jupiter)with this guy i got to know a few days back .And i must admit i have never felt like this with anyone before...we are both scorps with cappy moons and a lot of libra influence thrown in(i have a stellium in libra 6th house and he has 4 of his planets in libra.).he has a virgo asc. and i am tauras rising.though i usually dont open up with people very easily,i somehow feel like telling him all.Oh yes i almost forgot to say, we even have a south node conjunct moon aspect!looks like a karmic connection. any insights on this relationship are awaited eagerly.

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astro junkie
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posted August 26, 2004 11:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
... lordy ... lordy ...

... how in the world did you come up with those aspects? ... spacehead over here - have no clue ...

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PhoenixRising
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posted August 28, 2004 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
I dunno A.J. but i feel this relationship is fated...but i don't want to take a plunge ,headlong..i just broke up with my boyfriend(another scorp)Though we talk regurly on the phone and though he pleads me to accept him again ,something in my heart doesn't respond to him in quite the same way as before...all these years we were together he kept ogling at other gals..fantasising bout our coomon friend..going in for online sexual relations.....i tried turning the relationship into an ''open'' one but he said he wants to commit!!!looking back at it all, i wonder how people say that scorps are a commited lot!!my ex gemini was the most loyal person i have ever come across(he did have a cappy asc. and a leo moon )
The reason why i asked bout these aspects is that i have never been so quick in demonstrating my affection for anyone as i am being rt. now with this SCORP.2 ..it's like a huge overpowering tide of emotions sweeping me completely..not that i want to go in for another relationship(i 'd rather have strong platonic ties)
But this man makes me feel so..so..*~loved~*

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posted August 28, 2004 02:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message

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posted August 28, 2004 03:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
Clueless space head here...

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sthenri
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posted August 28, 2004 12:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
What does astro.com say about your basic compatibility? And what was the ex Scorpios, moon, venus and rising like?

All I can say is learn from your past so you don't repeat the same mistakes,

Natasha
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Cancer Moon

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posted August 28, 2004 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
I did our composite chart synastry through astro but i don't know whether it gives the overall picture or not coz it conentrates mainly on the positive aspects.here's what it said-----

SUN IN THE 5TH HOUSE of the composite chart is one of the best positions for a sexual relationship. It is also the house of creativity, children, self-expression, amusement, and good times in general. The Sun in the fifth house gives a strong emphasis to any of these elements.

In a personal relationship, a composite fifth-house Sun implies that your relationship will give you good opportunities for self-expression, for being yourself and enjoying it.

This is a good position for friendship because it indicates a light-hearted relationship in which you genuinely enjoy each other's company.

In a relationship with this placement, you must give each other room to be what you are.


SUN CONJUNCT VENUS

The conjunction of Sun and Venus in the composite chart is one of the strongest indications of a love relationship between two people, even in a friendship. It does not primarily indicate a sexual relationship; instead it signifies love, pure and simple. The attraction indicated by this aspect is so powerful that it can bring together people who are incompatible by ordinary criteria.

If the relationship is laden with conflicts, even a strong feeling of love between you may turn to hatred. In most cases, however, this will be a very fine personal relationship.


MOON IN THE 7TH HOUSE

The composite Moon in the seventh house is a good indication that in this relationship shared feelings will be very important. The seventh is the house of intimate one-to-one encounters, both positive ones such as partnerships and marriage, and negative ones such as open enmities.

In general, the seventh-house Moon favors any intimate relationship in which sharing emotions is important. You will have a strong feeling that you belong together as a unit, and your emotional attitudes toward the outside world will be similar.

You are, however, likely to become too involved in your personal feelings and not be able to see what is really going on between you. Try to stay somewhat detached from difficult situations so that you can deal with them objectively. If you can do that, this should be a very good emotional relationship for both of you.


VENUS IN 5TH HOUSE

Composite Venus in the fifth house is one of the stronger indications that this will be a relationship of love or, at the very least, friendship.

It denotes a relationship between two people who really enjoy being together and who make each other feel good. You will share a great love of pleasure and doing things together.

The fifth-house Venus is a light-hearted position. Perhaps its only real flaw is that it does not provide the energy needed for a serious day-to-day relationship. If you can overcome this lack of seriousness, a fifth-house Venus guarantees that this will be a pleasant and loving relationship for both of you.


VENUS CONJUNCT URANUS

With Venus conjunct Uranus in the composite chart, you will have to keep certain points in mind in order to get the most out of your relationship.

If this is a sexual relationship, it is very likely that your feelings for each other arose suddenly. But no matter how intense the feeling, recognize that any attempt to hold onto this relationship is probably doomed to failure. If you want it to last, you must give each other lots of room to move.

A relationship like this shakes your established thought patterns and gives you both the opportunity to find something new in yourselves.

This relationship may very well change your life. Give yourselves the freedom to go where it takes you.


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posted August 28, 2004 04:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
Sten,thank you for your advice ( U guys are so thoughtful.) I know i'll be careful.I'll just wait and watch...if this guy is really meant for me ,i mean ''really truly'' meant for me,then i believe things will fall in place themselves.
As for my ex,he had both his moon and rising in cancer and his venus in virgo(tightly conjunct his mars 0 deg. orb)His rising sign and moon both are sextile mine (tauras)and oppose my moon(cappy)I felt very much at home with him..but i always got this feelin that the basis of our relation is not true love but a strong sexual attraction (ven. conj. mars)coupled with basic harmony (a sense of comfort from all those good aspects ).One reason (probably THE ONLY ONE i now think as i look back) why at the first place i went into a relation with him was that at that time i was in great pain...it had been a year since my gemini guy had left me and still his memory was making my life very tough.the depression i was going through was affecting my parents and my sis.it was all this that made me feel the ''need'' of someone to wipe away those tears...I now realize how hasty i was.(impulsive is more like it ,blame it on my ven. in Sag.!!!)

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posted August 28, 2004 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Wow.. that is a nice composite.
And ain't it great to feel
~loved~

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PhoenixRising
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posted August 29, 2004 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
It's very nice to hear that from you PIXELPIXIE,especially since i guess you have a far better knowledge of astrology than me. And yes IT SURE IS a speacial feeling & even though i don't want to,i think i am falling in love...

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posted August 29, 2004 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LibraSparkle     Edit/Delete Message

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sthenri
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posted August 29, 2004 07:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Hold off on the love talk here! You just met this guy. Wait and date someone else at the same time and then see where a relationship is evolving. If you date this man for two months and there is no relationship, date others immediately. Do not wait. Why? Because there is no love and do not get caught up again.

From your history, I would say you tend to call it love too quickly and commit too soon.
Be sure to date around, it's encouraged to do so, and let everyone know that you are open to a relationship. Once a man makes it exclusive with you and is ready to commit, then give away your heart. Hold off on the I love you's to him until he says it first, it's not game, hold on to your heart.

I speak the truth, I have Venus in Aries so I know how fast a man can make you feel you are the one, but is he the one?? Don't let someone touch you deeply, and let yourself think that's love.

He may move you in some ways but this again is a frankly sexual relationship. He will not want to move onto anything serious too soon, so be careful not to compromise.

This composite says sexual excitement all over, not commitment. Hold on to your heart and be sure to date a few others for clarity. IF he is the right one, he won't be insecure that you are looking for a commitment, and he won't mind if you have outside interests and friends. If he is the one he will commit within a few months without a huge emphasis on sex.

Progress from strong friendship to strong liking and trusting first.

And I know very much what the Geminis can do to you, that's the same old song here.

I had a very similar composite with another, and the emphasis was on sex, food, hanging out.

Recommendation: Keep him as a friend, and be open to other attentions for at least three months of continuous every week dating. Get to really know him.

Take Care,
Natasha
And please Knowflakes, hold off on the love talk for a little while okay? Let's see her date this guy for a few months first.

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posted August 30, 2004 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
I get what your saying, StHenri.. I really do, but there is something romantic and frre wheeling about going headlong into the depth of feeling and relishing these first glimpses of it... isn't that what it is all about? She'll keep her head with her heart, but wants to bounce it off of people.. and honestly, it was a good composite.. don't you think? I am being encouraging, but I trust she knows herself, and I trust her decision making skills and her heart.
Her words were...
quote:
But this man makes me feel so..so..*~loved~*

I will always encourage THAT feeling!
I wish everyone the best in the adventures of love.

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posted August 30, 2004 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
Pixelpixie,i must say that you really understand and it's really nice to know that you trust my feelings...
QUOTE:
'' Once a man makes it exclusive with you and is ready to commit, then give away your heart. Hold off on the I love you's to him until he says it first, it's not game, hold on to your heart.''
STENHRI,I didn't mention here but the fact is that he has already told me that he loves me and that he wants to commit.He didn't even ask for an answer but i told him that i am not quite ready for another relationship..He was very thoughtful and he even told me that he ''can vanish'' from my life completely if i was uncomfortable.Now that's something which made me love him even more... QUOTE: ''IF he is the right one, he won't be insecure that you are looking for a commitment, and he won't mind if you have outside interests and friends. If he is the one he will commit within a few months without a huge emphasis on sex.''
He never insisted or even asked me consider my decision again.We talk to each other everyday and he calls me ''buddy''.(though inside probably he means ''love'').We are getting to know each other and i must say that he is a wonderful person-sincere and steady with a kind of intensity that commands trust and respect.(and mind you this ain't merely my own views about him.Everyone who knows him says that.) Sten,i can understand what you are trying to say,and thanks again for your advice. I myself do not want another illusion in the name of love.But i do have one question please -what makes you think that this is a relationship with an ''emphasis on sex''??We may have a venus conjunct mars but we do also have other aspects indicating love(his venus conjunct my pluto,mercury, saturn ,jupiter and vertex.And my venus conjunct his neptune and sextile his pluto-all of them within a 5 degree orb) and a karmic relationship( south node conjunct moon ,saturn conjunct venus,MC conjunct moon,saturn conjunct vertex and quite a few neptune ties; to name the major ones).

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posted August 30, 2004 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Sun conjunct Venus, both in the 5th, mean he is sexually attracted to you. While you may be able to handle it, sometimes you will notice it how strong the feeling is.

All I'm saying is that, it will be obvious at times, 5th house is not serious, so serious talks make things feel less intense and less playful, instead of fun. That can feel uncomfortable.

I agree love is good but the kind of love we want is not the kind of love we get when dating. Dating is a process of selecting and rejecting, until there is a commitment it's best to Receive the love, and then when committed, it's best to Give the love. Always keep on expecting more.

I understand Pixie, but she is still in dating mode, if she wasn't she wouldn't be looking at the composite and wondering, Plus Venus in Sag falls fast and is very Loyal.

Better to hear all the bad news with the good at the start because Venus in Sag is optimistic right away and only sees the good. I am not trying to slow things down, only add some oil to the wheels so there isn't any burnout.

Make sense?

When you start thinking about things, seriously sitting down and talking about commitment, you will feel either like getting it over with because it's understood, or talking about it more. Without anything to think about in terms of good or bad to weigh up, there is a tendency to rush over that part, thinking the partner understands.

When you are full of feelings communications can get confused.

If you keep your head, you can make a love last a long time. But the man can't think about these things, no matter how responsible, since he looks to you for his cue.

When I see lots of 5th house plus Venus in a fire sign I have to advise caution. Expect him to expect a lot from you. Make sure to put the emphasis on the relationship, so the relationship lives up to the expectations, not just one person.

So when you say
"Our relationship seems to have a problem"
There is no expectation of criticism, it's diplomatic and it takes the expectations of the person, while at the same time keeping standards high.

That's just the way it is,

Same if you were a gemini, I would say make sure to get plenty of rest and don't burnout by thinking to much about the relationship.
Things you don't think about at the time.

5th house has to do with high expectations, and sometimes it's easy to be idealistic, people can be burned out on trying to please..

I'm a drag I know...


Take Care,
and Lots of Caring, Nurturing Love,
Natasha
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posted August 30, 2004 12:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message

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posted August 31, 2004 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
Oh Natasha,i am not very good with words..but had i been so you would have realized how thankful i am to you for sparing your time and energy both Thanks again for your advice.All that you said definately makes sense. Now if i am not being too bothersome i would like to ask you something.I am posting our composite horoscope planetary positions.Please tell me if there are any indiacations of commitment and a long lasting relationship?I would be grateful indeed... Composite Horoscope midpoint method
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Scorpio 15°46'53 05
Moon Capricorn 20°16'09 07
Mercury Libra 27°45'12 04
Venus Scorpio 22°07'42 05
Mars Scorpio 00°28'17 04
Jupiter Libra 14°05'03 04
Saturn Libra 11°09'45 04
Uranus Scorpio 27°22'24 05
Neptune Sagittarius 22°09'17 06
Pluto Libra 23°52'28 04
True Node Leo 05°02'00 01


HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 11°45'12
2nd House Leo 11°25'02
3rd House Virgo 08°54'51
Imum Coeli Libra 06°03'34
5th House Scorpio 04°34'04
6th House Sagittarius 06°28'40
Descendant Capricorn 11°45'12
8th House Aquarius 11°25'02
9th House Pisces 08°54'51
Medium Coeli Aries 06°03'34
11th House Taurus 04°34'04
12th House Gemini 06°28'40



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posted August 31, 2004 08:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
...a greater than usual need for sex, and emotional closeness...working together on a project...sibling like relationship in the home..parental type relationship...some focus on money, power and sex...

I see all these things through the Moon in Capricorn which is the only earth in the composite. Reading that as a moon singleton, the moon, parenting, unconcious wishes, desires and dreams are very important.

Read up on the Moon,
Moon singletons
Capricorn
Capricorn Moons

remember that his parents will be very important somehow, you do not need to get very involved, but make sure contact with each other's families is a postive thing, or not at all.

Do not get too caught up in your own personal world, and do not mix finances.

He is not as good with finances as you think, and may spend when stressed, make sure to hold tight to your own resources and do not share. This will avoid any financial insecurity on your part, which he would share.

Do you work together? Working on a joint project would ensure longevity. I see closeness, but not smothering closeness, physical closeness, parenting, and work.

Yes this relationship has a good chance but as always there needs to be work, Scorpios tend to be lazy once inside the relationship due their fixed nature and love of pleasure.

Be sure to stay active mentally, with outside new interests, not the same things, or same friends. Demand that he take risks.

Check in with yourself often to ask yourself if this relationship has a future and be honest.

Here is a great site, http://www.marriagebuilders.com/
check the quizzes under Emotional Needs, and ask him to take the tests with you if you feel he is interested.

Tell him a committed relationship and marriage is a Journey not a Destination. It's the love you share that powers your survival. Sex is not about fulfillment, it's about getting through the day and night through each other, the closeness you share is designed to help you confront change and grow. The goal is to become stronger, and deal with the world, but not enable each other to stay the same. In other words, love is always a little needy, in the emotional department.

No amount of sex can ever reassure someone, the emotional neediness is uncomfortable, but that's how you know you are growing. As long as he is acting secure in himself and can trust you, rely on you, than you have a future together.

Read that site, there is a wealth of info on building long lasting relationships,

Trust yourself first, and he will sense your security, but if you have questions be sure to come back and post again, that' what we're here for.

Take Care,
Natasha

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posted August 31, 2004 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PhoenixRising     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Natasha...thanks a million..

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