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Topic: Mad scorpios
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LIN420 Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 07, 2004 05:08 PM
Hello everyone. This is my first posting but i am a huge fan of linda goodman's book love signs. I am wondering if anyone out there can give me some insight into the scorpio mind (particularily the male mind). I know one that i find very fascinating, but being an aries we are very different, and have had some less than pleasant moments. He is, as scorpios are known to be, into mind games, but he is also younger so I feel less at a disadvantage. Things have been kind of on hold for the past 8 months while i was away and now he has a girl friend (sagitarius) but things between them are not going well. I just want to know if any one can give me some insight, as i try and decipher if he is in fact still interested. (We had some fairly volatile power struggles last year) Normally I would have forgotten about him long ago, but like anyone involved with scorpios knows there's just something there i can't let go of.IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4579 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 07, 2004 06:12 PM
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astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4579 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 07, 2004 06:17 PM
Sometimes when you have a volatile relationship, the thing which pulls people back together is not respect and kindness. It can be a power struggle, the one wanting more being the one who was the last to "lose" the struggle. As an Aries, I can see where maybe you feel you need the "last word". Is it that? Sometimes our motives are well hidden, even from ourselves.Do you think this is what you two are experiencing? If you want to include any astro data, like your Moon placements. Usually the Knowflakes here want to know Date, Time, and Place born so they can give you the most accurate feedback. Feel free to go at your own pace. .gloria IP: Logged |
Randall Webmaster Posts: 19090 From: Columbus, GA USA Registered: Nov 2000
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posted October 07, 2004 06:25 PM
Welcome! ------------------ "Never mentally imagine for another that which you would not want to experience for yourself, since the mental image you send out inevitably comes back to you." Rebecca Clark IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph Knowflake Posts: 302 From: Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 07, 2004 07:44 PM
Granted I'm no expert on Scorpios as I tend to avoid them (heh - my Gemini Sun is VERY paranoid and is utterly convinced all a Scorp will try to do is scewer my Pisces moon straight through the heart), but this much I know to be frequently true, more or less:1. Oh god are they stubborn. A fixed water (therefore stubborn and emotional) sign - they simply don't listen to reason unless they are in the mood. And good luck finding them in the mood. 2. Oh god are they control freaks. Again, fixed water sign... 3. Oh god do they have egos. And even if it's not a big ego, it's a very, very sensitive one. And paranoid too, as most control freaks with hypersenstive egos are. They are just as likely as Cancers to turn on you for an imagined injury they think you did to them, and four times as likely to mortally wound you for it. 4. The Scorpio keyphrase is "I desire" and Scorpio rules the genitals. Hence why Scorpios tend to do what feels good, and desperately avoid everything else. 5. Scorpios have just as hard a time dealing with reality as Pisces. They want life to be magical and charmed, and can become very bitter, cynical and nasty when disillusioned. When life doesn't go according to their dreams, their fixed water nature goes into overdrive and temper tantrums, Oscar-worthy crying scenes, door slamming, road rage, and assinations ensue. Unlike Pisces however, Scorpio is a social sign and thus tends to not to wallow in their pain alone, but prefers to go out and find a victim to share it with. 6. Scorpios are also highly suspectible to drug abuse, especially drugs that effect the seratonin and dopamine levels of the brain, like heroin, cocaine and ecstasy (see 4 and 5 above). Drug-addled Scorpios tend to be stupider than the average drug-addled person for some reason, have a very hard time kicking addictions, and will make every inane excuse and say every outlandish lie to avoid getting help (see 4 above). A drug addicted Scorpio should be avoided at all cost, as they're far better than most at dragging other people down with them (see 2 and the last sentence of 5 above). 7. Scorpio rules the 8th house, the house of sex, death, wealth and a couple other things not nearly as interesting. Many people find Scorpios to be charismatic, sexy, mysterious and dangerous; I usually just find them creepy. As a result, I've observed Scorpios prefer the company of those under their "spell" and avoid people (like me) whom they can't bewitch. This seems to ties into 2 and 3 above. I've also observed along this vein that Scorpios tend to decide (subtly and otherwise) for their friends who they can be friends with, and it's usually more people the Scorpio can bewitch. Crossreference 2 above. 8. Many people think Scorpios are into kinky sex. This isn't always true. Usually they are just into ultra intense, blindingly passsionate, violent, bloodletting, on-the-brink-of-death, sadistic kind of sex. And a lot of it. Everywhere. 9. Scorpios are ridiculously sentimental, to the point it makes my Pisces moon embarassed for them. Everything in the past gets reinvented in their mind, all the unpleasant stuff edited out (especially any indicators of personal culpability) and then endowed with an enchantingly mysterious, magical, nostalgic quality that makes others who were there question the Scorpio's memory skills. Scorpios are particularly sentimental about past lovers, usually keeping them chained in their basement dungeons for whenever they wish to "reminiscence." (That you are not locked up in this Scorpio's basement is a good thing. Consider yourself lucky.) I don't know if you find any of this useful or insightful, but I had fun. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4579 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 07, 2004 07:55 PM
Along those lines, personally, Scorpio guys have never been a big thrill for me, as they are the quickest to ask, "Why are you looking at that guy like that?"Dealbreaker. IP: Logged |
Librasagpisces Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 07, 2004 08:01 PM
I never dated a scorp guy, not because i didn't want to, the opportunity never presented itself. I'm curious about them. I have heard some real horror stories from other woman though, so perhaps I should count my blessings. I myself have a scorp stellium in my chart, and have some scorpish traits. I seem to be attracted to air and fire signs. Fire signs always leads to trouble for me though.IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4579 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 07, 2004 08:25 PM
I'm a Libra with Cancer Moon, and Merc/Mars/Neptune in Scorpio. It depends on what Scorp/Pluto/8th House aspects you have together. For me, it seems my Mars is too strong for them.IP: Logged |
scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 184 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted October 07, 2004 08:29 PM
Wow GeminiNymph
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pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 4293 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2003
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posted October 07, 2004 08:31 PM
And Geminis have a penchant for grandeur and drama to the extreme. I mean.......really...... quote: Granted I'm no expert on Scorpios as I tend to avoid them
Good.. please avoid us.. I might be defensive, but I have never read a write up (except maybe for your last one) that painted us in a worse light. Some of it was right on though But the rest? Can you say Drama queen? You should write novels on sadistic personology.IP: Logged |
scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 184 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted October 07, 2004 08:41 PM
Well at least the sex part was titilating In a weird way of course.. IP: Logged |
LeYeL Knowflake Posts: 24 From: Registered: Aug 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 12:18 AM
Scorps take things real personal LOL I cracked up totally reading your post.. was a Hoot GemIP: Logged |
Jazzebel Knowflake Posts: 169 From: Georgia Registered: Aug 2003
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posted October 08, 2004 12:34 AM
I think Scorpios are sweethearts..sometimes I even tend to think they are the sweetiest creatures ever. lol Or maybe I have a penchant for them, who knows. Or maybe I am bewitched I know only that whenever I get along with someone in such a wonderful way that lead me to ask them - what sign are you, they`d answer - oh, I am a Scorpio. I am actually surrounded by Scorpios, all the time. I know them so well, oh so well!! My closest girlfriend - she is such a Scorp, she is a Sun/Moon/ASC/Mercury/Venus/Mars/Uranus all conjunct in Scorpio. She would rather burn in hell and let be biten,ripped,torned apart, tortured then to be separated from her beloved man for whatever reason. What a b*itch ! (I love her dearly) I suspect she is a masochist thou. So are most Scorpios. How to get ahold with Scorpios? Being exceptionaly nice/lovey-dovey to them one day, and very bitchy/imposible to satisfy the next day. They will loved it! IP: Logged |
Teo Torriatte Knowflake Posts: 33 From: UK Registered: Jul 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 06:56 AM
Not sure I can help with the original post but I felt I had to reply after reading Gemini Nymph's posting! My sister is a scorpio, and yes she is a very powerful presence, she is dominating, and stubborn, and strives to be the best at everything. She is strategic, crafty, and incredibly bright. And how she can argue, my god. She is also so emotionally fragile that if she realises she's hurt or upset anybody through being any of the above traits, it literally crumples her. She is very good at hiding her emotional truths even from herself which is why I cut her a lot of slack. I am too openly emotional and inconsistent for her, it kinda conflicts with her need to know everything and need to suppress any kind of emotional outburst. The reason I persevere with the power struggles is that she is my sister and I love her to bits, she is also one of my closest friends. Not sure I would tolerate it if that were not the case. Its a lot of hard work and many times I've walked away, but as she is my sister I always go back. BTW - I know in your post LIN420 you ask about the male scorp, well this sounds harsh but my sister is kinda masculine, she lives very much in a man's world.Ax IP: Logged |
purple_scorp Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Australia Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 07:13 AM
Hi Lin40I have two very good Scorp male friends. They are both charming, sexy, love to be the centre of attention, will keep confidence if you want to share some deep and meaningfuls with them, and both are extremely magnetic - that might be the pull you feel. I don't know that I would say they were into minds games as such, but, they do like to get into your mind. Now as much about you as possible. Evolved Scorps won't use this to your detriment. Being a Scorp myself, I have a lot of Aries friends and I think the two signs mix quite well, though they're not generally noted for that. Strangely enough, I think you would get along better with his new gal, than he would. Two fire signs and all. Good luck, purple_scorp IP: Logged |
Librasagpisces Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 08:15 AM
Astro Junkie, I have the same things in scorp in my chart, 7-8th house. Where you born in 10/61?I'm a Libra with Cancer Moon, and Merc/Mars/Neptune in Scorpio. It depends on what Scorp/Pluto/8th House aspects you have together. For me, it seems my Mars is too strong for them.
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miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 97 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 09:37 AM
LIN420,Scorpios are not all that bad... They have a lot of redeeming qualities like: 1. They are very passionate - this trait could attract or repel, depending on whether you can handle their passions or not. 2. They are very level headed - this is a very usefull trait in terms of crisis. Trust a Scropio to keep their cool in extreme crisis. 3. They are planners - everything have to be just as they planned. This can be very useful when you want them to do something for you, you can generally trust them to do it right. 4. Loyal - Scorpios are extremely loyal. You can trust them to fight for you even if you are in the wrong. When they give you their friendship, they are your friends for life - unless you do something really bad to them, then they will just never forgive you - some of them will retaliate. 5. Very sexy - there is this mysterious sexiness in a scorpio that many find very intriguing. Basically if a Scorpio sets his eyes on you, you are almost always hooked. 6. Very picky - Because a Scorpio is very picky about their friends and associates, you know that if they think of you as their friend, you are Special with a capital S. They have to think very highly of you to allow you into their circle. Respect is one of Scorpio's key trait. They have to respect you to let you near them. ... and so many many more. FYI... I'm also an Aries but I have a Scorpio Ascendant, which makes me half and half. I guess the one big difference is that although I do not easily forget a slight, I don't actively pursuit retaliation. Should one come my way accidentally, so be it. I couldn't really care less if I get even or not. IP: Logged |
LIN420 Knowflake Posts: 3 From: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 10:36 AM
Thank you everyone for your replies. Thank-you especially to gemini nymph for all the details. some of what you said rings very true especially the part about the ego. so to librasagpisces i just have to say that if you ever do date a scorpio be aware of every thing you do or say because they tend to take offense where none was meant and then you may be in big trouble without knowing it. Having said that though i want to add that being with a scorpio can be wonderful but only risk it if you know yourself well enough not to get lost in the twisted little mind traps they can't help but set sometimes, it's in their nature. Why would anyone want to risk it? I beleive that a person can learns alot about themselves and what it is they need through a relationship with a scorpio. They see things how they really are and are not afraid to say it -with no sugar coating at all. Even if it doesn't work out you will leave the experience understanding a little (or perhaps alot) more about yourself. PS my birthday is april 20 1978 other than my sun sign, the only one i know is my moon (i think)which is virgo. his birthdate i belive is nov.21 1981 if anyone has any info about this combo i am always interested to hear it.IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4579 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 08, 2004 05:57 PM
Yeah, I was born 1961, all my Scorpio placements are in my 6th House. I have no planets in my 8th. I have Venus Conj Pluto, and Neptune Sextile Pluto. Also, my Mars in Scorpio is the Focal Point of my entire Chart.IP: Logged |
Librasagpisces Knowflake Posts: 38 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 06:13 PM
I have a scorp stellium, merc, mars nep all conj each other at end of 7th going into 8th house. Then I have pisces rsing to boot, so I pretty much feel like a drowning libra at times. I feel very neptunian, ya know, in a fog and daydreaming alot. IP: Logged |
Wordweaver Knowflake Posts: 19 From: Omaha, NE Registered: Sep 2004
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posted October 08, 2004 07:39 PM
Hello, Lin. Don't believe all the negative things you hear about Scorpio. We ARE stubborn, possessive, and extremely untrusting and jealous; I can't argue the facts. But once you win our hearts, nothing will tear us away. We're also loyal, faithful, loving, and emotional; though you may not see the emotional side often. Believe me though; it's there. As Linda said, "Still waters run deep." Aries and Scorpio actually have more in common than people think: both are passionate, driven, intense signs. Those attributes are usually displayed and manifested differently, though. But, if other aspects in your chart are harmonious, I don't see any reason the two of you can't live happily ever after. Don't worry about his Sag girlfriend; I'd bet money that she'll be history soon.------------------ Sun-Scorp Moon-Libra ASC-Virgo Merc-Scorp Venus-Virgo Mars-Cap IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 4293 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2003
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posted October 08, 2004 08:07 PM
*just so you know, I am a scorpio who is married to an Aries man. (for five and a half *almost* years) Something about Aries and Scorpio matches.... rowr. And it's true, we are not too far remove4d from each other in a lot of essential ways. The baser drives, for instance.... Passion, Integrity for those we love, or want to love.IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4579 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 08, 2004 08:30 PM
And I think Scorpio's and Aries have a common appreciation for the bottom line.IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 4293 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2003
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posted October 08, 2004 10:47 PM
*especially each other's bottom line. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 4579 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 09, 2004 08:15 AM
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