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posted October 08, 2004 08:31 PM         

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someone you have or had a relationship with, who has treated you so disrespectfully in the past, and now has their karma back to bite them even worse, has asked you for help? And the help that they are asking you for, is something that you know they would not do for you, and you know this because they stabbed you in the back with it. Are you following me? So, they are asking you to get them out of a situation, because now they are in trouble with that something that they did to you. would you help them with what they asked? Or would you let them have their karma so to speak?

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posted October 08, 2004 08:42 PM         

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Normally, I would let them deal with their own karma. But it also depends on the history you have with the person, if that's how they usually are - if that's a dynamic of their personality, let go and let God.

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posted October 08, 2004 08:50 PM         

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Life is rarely a matter of spite..."Well, HE wouldn't do that for me, so why would I do it for him.." That's why we are individual in our behaviours and generosity. It is second nature for me to want to give to people.... within reason.. while my hubby for instance, says.."Why can't they do it themselves?" And that is his first reaction. I can't fault him for that, it doesn't make him a bad person....
I suppose it is a matter of personal comfort and your willingness to help. Regardless of what this person did or didn't do.. would you help? I think you would.. because secondary to the karma that comes through interaction ( mutual karma) there is a personal side to what you expect from yourself.. if you fel it is right, within, you know what to do. and
Maybe you are here for a positive lesson?
If not, maybe a lesson in forgiveness?

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posted October 08, 2004 09:03 PM         

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thank for your input ladies

well, i forgave him a long time ago. it's just that he seems to have these negative patterns. and i know, who doesn't right? i just don't know if me helping him would actaully help him in learning, or if i'm feeding him fish instead of teaching him how to fish, or if i'm just co-dependent. when i think about it spirtually, i want to help him in the manner that he asks, but thinking about it as a human/person, this may lead to more serious problems for me in the future. or it may not if he actually learns. such cognitive dissonance...what to do, what to do? i don't like being in limbo... hmmm...

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posted October 08, 2004 10:46 PM         

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Well.. give it some time... if the answer needs more time than you have for your own comfort, there is your answer.
The pieces will show themselves... Good luck.

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posted October 09, 2004 02:37 AM         

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pisces girl,

You have the right idea when you recognize that it's not a personal, karmic, matter,...

There are so many people in this world who need, really need, help, and determining who will benefit from it (including who will benefit others by benefitting from it),
is the real dilemma.

Is this person the type to appreciate (or, are they capable of learning to appreciate) your sacrifice for them? Not because you want to be the one to ultimately benefit from your "self-less" works, but, because one's sincere gratitude is a good sign that they have really, genuinely benefitted.

We don't have anything until we have enough to give away. And we dont have enough to give away until we are happy to give. but, thats another story, and I really gotta learn to stop rambling like this....

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H.S.C.

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"Judgment is the antithesis of understanding."
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posted October 09, 2004 09:59 AM         

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Hello Pisces Girl,

I will probably only help him if it is not going to affect me adversely and only when it is CONVENIENT to me.

Don't go out of your way to help this individual. A person like that is not worth wasting a second of your life; so, if it is convenient AND will benefit you, go ahead and help. Otherwise, say, sorry, but I AM BUSY with my own life!

Miss Muffet

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posted October 09, 2004 12:42 PM         

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"... I've traveled the world, and seven seas, everybody's looking for something, some of them want to use you, some of them want to be used by you, some of them want to abuse you, some of them want to be abused - sweet dreams are made of these, who am I to disagree ..."

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posted October 09, 2004 08:50 PM         

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Forget him. He made his bed; let him lie in it alone.

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