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Dreamangel05
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posted October 13, 2004 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamangel05     Edit/Delete Message
Hello I could really use some insight.I'm so in love with a pisces man who has a taurus moon.
I am a Virgo female with scorpio moon.
We have been dating for 6 months,he is very passive and I can't figuare it out.He's not sexual or at least never starts anything! He'll stay over and cuddle and fall right to sleep.We are mid-20's so it's not his age.
He forgot my birthday didn't even get me a card.
He is very social he'll go out with his friends alot to the clubs.And watches alot of movies always needs his space.Which I understand and all but I need some sex too. 3 TIMES in 6 months alittle wierd for me.
My questions here is are we a good match?
I truly love this man I just can't get him to commit and he's huge into porn and such.
Ahhh !!!

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astro junkie
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posted October 13, 2004 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message


Maybe he is gay? Is he insecure about himself physically? Maybe he doesn't want to get involved, just want the physical closeness. Maybe he doesn't know how much you really want sex. Maybe he has specific fetishes, which are the only ways he can ...

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Mama Mia
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posted October 13, 2004 10:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Those were all good points AJ maybe too he is
still inlove with an ex or something also.
It is very strange that you guys have been together 6 months and only have had sex 3 times. I guess it is not that strange but if your giving ogg that vibe that you want it bad he's feeling it, especially by him being a pisces. I am a pisces and I read body language almost instantly... Talk to him about it if you have not.

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Randall
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posted October 13, 2004 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome!

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pixelpixie
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posted October 13, 2004 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Your Suns and Moons are opposed. That is interesting. I wonder how the rest of the chart works out.....
That is strange indeed, about the sex..... Do you guys communicate? It could be any number of things.. starting simply with a miscommunication.
Talk to him.

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sthenri
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posted October 13, 2004 03:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
I have an 8th house Cancer moon, an ex boyfriend had a Taurus moon, we were always at cross purposes. He was also very inexperienced.

We would end up okay, but I felt his motives were different than mine for being physical, less about emotional intensity, more about playful touching. I think Taurus moons prefer something more friendly because it says long term to them. Taurus moons feel objectified sometimes. Scorpio moons like more emotional intensity, so you two are better as friends unless you can communicate really well.

Pisces love to touch and cuddle, but are not exactly comfortable with mega sex. Pisces is never assertive about sex, even the males, so you will have to take the initiative, even if your fantasy is for him to take control.

Try asking him to direct you, how bad can it be if he's not that bossy? See where it goes, but tell him you want a man who can fulfill you on every level-that's a good way of putting it.

Otherwise he won't fulfill you on any level, due to inexperience or he may just be naive. With every couple, intimacy is unbalanced, too much intensity, or not enough, but make sure you have basic compatibility

Check our the emotional needs and energy levels you two have and compare, if it's not working your needs and energy levels may be too different. What about other needs, long term goals?

I have to say Scorpio moons have tons of energy, in every department.

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Kat Smeow
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posted October 13, 2004 03:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kat Smeow     Edit/Delete Message
Watch out what you wish for. I was with a Libra man for a few years before he proposed. 6 months before the wedding, we stopped sleeping together. I figured it was just tension or wedding related issues, busy and all. Today is my 3rd wedding anniversary. We still haven't consumated the marriage. He doesn't touch me at all. He is very social, like your guy, he loves movies and shopping and subscribes to Maxim magazine (though he never really reads it.) He basically married me so I could be a housekeeper and bring in a paycheck. I would bet money he is gay. (Also, he is the only child of a very Catholic mother.)

My advice is this: you can't change someone into something you want them to be. I realize you have feelings for him, but believe me, 4 years without a physical relationship has made me indifferent towards my Libra. And your self-esteem takes a crushing blow, I'm still trying to convince myself that I'm not hideous. If he is not what you need, look elsewhere. Don't waste your time on someone who seems to want you around for certain reasons. Best of luck to you, and let us know what you decide to do.

Kat

PS-It is wonderful of you to love someone so much, and there are people out there who appreciate every bit of love they get. If only everyone could be that way.

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Dreamangel05
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posted October 13, 2004 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamangel05     Edit/Delete Message
Wow hello everyone thank you all for your responses!He is very shy even in public places always has his head down.Always ragging on himself,woes is me type of thing.And I think he has such a dear soul,you can't help but fall in love with it.Maybe we need to talk,but everytime I try to bring things up he swims away always has an exit route.Main excuse I'm tired..i'm a bum ect...I know there is some romance in him he's a pisces..I LOVE ROMANCE.And could see this relationship getting really passionate if he would just let me into his world .
I was married to a aries man my high school sweet heart,and we divorced a year ago.
I will say that an aries and virgo relationship is love-hate very passionate,yet we never could see eye to eye.

My birthday is Sept-17-1977
Pisces guy i like is March-3-1979
Is there some kind of chart that will match us and see if it will work?

Thank you guys sooo much!!
Hugs,
Mary

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Dreamangel05
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posted October 13, 2004 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamangel05     Edit/Delete Message
Found a chart.

Tyler pisces sun 12 degrees
rising sign gemini 24 degrees
moon in taurus 19 degrees
mercury in pisces 29 degrees
venus in capricorn 29 degrees
mars in pisces 3 degrees
jupiter in cancer 29 degrees
saturn in virgo 10 degrees
uranus in scorpio 20 degrees
neptune in sagittarius 20 degrees
pluto in libra 18 degrees
n.node in virgo 17 degrees


me virgo sun
rising sign virgo 4 degrees
moon in scorpio 16 degrees
mercury in virgo 7 degrees
venus in leo 23 degrees
mars in cancer 9 degrees
jupiter in cancer 3 degrees
saturn in leo 24 degrees
uranus in scorpio 9 degrees
neptune in sag 13 degrees
pluto in libra 13 degrees
n.node 15 degrees in libra

yikes what does all this mean anyone!!???

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moonshine
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posted October 14, 2004 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for moonshine     Edit/Delete Message
Hi I dont know how to read charts so I cant help you there but you're right about the love hate relationship with virgo and aries.. I've been out with 3 Aries guys in the past and all of them I've wanted to throttle eventually! I dont know why I keep attracting them (some kind of karmic retribution?!) but there is something defintley there, lol!

About your pisces guy: I know a few such guys and they're all a bit like your friend. I strongly suspect that he actually secretly wants to be dominated and I think you should take the lead! Honestly! And I kind of understand it too - I have a pisces moon and when it comes to love and sex I tend to hold back and wait for the other person to take charge, because I'm too shy to initiate anything. When he starts to feel more secure with you, he might start to show his more passionate side and maybe even dominate you!!! But i think you may have to do the leg work first.

Hope that helps, Monika x x

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astro junkie
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posted October 14, 2004 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for astro junkie     Edit/Delete Message
That's Federline - he's Aries, and his girlfriend who just had his second kid is a Virgo.

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KarenSD
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posted October 15, 2004 03:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarenSD     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, I am a Pisces sun and Gemini ascendent woman, who cares very much for a Virgo-sun and Virgo-Mercury male, and I am trying to compare what is happening with you two to what I am going through... I have to think about this situation more, but I am curious if you think I can offer any insight anyway because it's the opposite sex in each case... Let me know!

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Dreamangel05
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posted October 15, 2004 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dreamangel05     Edit/Delete Message
I have to think about this situation more, but I am curious if you think I can offer any insight anyway because it's the opposite sex in each case... Let me know!
KarenSD

Yes I would love your insight on this!
I got to see him last night,he's been working out of town for the last month.I think I'm just gonna have to get the nerve to romance him and sweep him off his feet.
And take the lead! He's so sensitive and it really brings my sensitive side out. With my Aries ex-husband it was a Fire Hot passionate realationship it was very aggressive and very sexual we both were.With My pisces guy it's a inocent type of realtionship more feeling,more deep emotional connection..we can talk about alot it's just hard to talk about us and how we feel about each other.
But we did talk last night about us.I think he's scared to commit,and I think he's really scared that i've got a 3 year old boy (Gemini).
He said we could try to have a realtionship when things slow down in his life...(o.k)
He jokingly said why don't you go out on the town with other guys why would you want a bum like me!? (O.K)
You can have any guy in the city--(one thing i really like about him he's always complimenting me)
I have found that he really likes it when i make him dinner(he loves food).


Another thing I found when I was at his place a couple old pictures of an ex-girlfriend on the top of his dresser.
a pair of womens underwear in his bathroom and condoms everywhere in his room on his table.He does have a roommate but....I do wonder if he's just playing me too.
My ex-husband(aries) cheated on me 5 times before I finally divorced him.


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KarenSD
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posted October 15, 2004 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KarenSD     Edit/Delete Message
Hi! OK, then, let me get hunkered down here and see if I can offer anything of note to you, my Virgo friend in love with a Pisces!

Let me say this first of all, that I know that most Pisces have wandering eyes and like to make EVERYONE feel sunny and happy. So we flirt. We flirt even with members of our own sex... not in an overt way (unless we're gay, of course, I am writing this strictly from a heterosexual point of view, no offense meant!) but the flirtation is always meant to make the person we are with feel nice and comfy.

However, if we truly feel we are loved in full and we really believe it and know it (which is rare!), there is nothing better than that feeling! So while we might still LOOK around (a lot), we are loyal to the end when feeling safe and loved. We want, no, we NEED, full acceptance of ourselves... and that means the understanding by our loved ones of all of our quirks and flaws and dreams and crankiness. Yes, in full, all the time, and remind us of it!.

Not sure Pisceans are cheaters (and I've been cheated on a few times, in very painful ways, once by an Aries, so I totally understand THAT one!) but the roving eye is a fact of the matter. Having condoms around is not a big deal.

And it wouldn't surprise me if the women's undies that are around serve as just a sweet reminder of someone. I have pix of my NICE exes, not of the ones who hurt me, but I do have them around. They're not out on the dresser; but a couple of them COULD be. Harmless, you know. They're not in my life other than friends, and I don't even talk to any of them, but I always consider my exes (the ones who didn't hurt me, that is, which are a couple) friends, even if we never speak to one another again. We hate losing people in our life....

But back to the undies... of course Pisces as a feminine sign, he could want those for more than just memories! I have a lot of guy clothes myself, and I also have some of my exes' clothes from past relationships!!! I don't keep them out and about but I know 'em in my closet and they make me smile sometimes!

WE LOVE FOOD. Yes, wine and dine us to the end. And personally, in a curious sort of way, I love how Virgos eat - cautiously and healthy 'cause it's good for me. I eat pretty carefully myself as a vegetarian, but that doesn't mean I don't loooooove food.

I'm surprised he doesn't talk about his feelings. I could do that all day. But the thing I understand, he may not feel comfortable doing that with you because the "vibe" may be a bit off. I have been able to talk about my feelings to the nth degree with others but with the Virgo guy I like right now, I don't think he can handle them, so I keep quiet. Who knows? He may be able to handle my emotions, but they are so deep and so REAL that I fear being too open. Your Pisces guy may sense that from YOU. So if you could perhaps put his mind at ease and let him know that you want to know how he feels and of what he dreams, make him feel comfortable that you are good to go with him being honest and open... that might open the door to more communication.

And communication is KEY.

I hope this helps!!!!

I'll be thinking of you and wishing you well.

Karen SD

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Mama Mia
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posted October 15, 2004 03:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mama Mia     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe he just has a communication problem.
What was his childhood like. I know that alot of times peoples problems stem from their childhood. Maybe he was not allowed as a child to express himself. Could be a number of things.

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gert
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posted October 20, 2004 06:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gert     Edit/Delete Message
Ok I''l be brief

Rising: Gemini and Virgo.
Match: Average match
Love to talk to each other, may find the other stimulating but apt not to take each other seriously!

Sun :Pisces and Virgo
Match:Excellent match.
Love style is sacrificial, selfless.Pisces loves to succumb and Virgo likes to organise.Made for each other!

moon Taurus and scorpio
match: average
Emotionaly complex scorpio may be irritated by tauruses plodding.Taurus may accuse scorpio of rocking the boat too often and unnecessarily.Difficult!

mercury: pisces and virgo
match:good
Virgo may feel that Pisces ideas too impractical.Pisces may feel virgo lacks imagination.Both are tolerant though so there should be no major problems.

venus: leo and capricorn
match: bad
Leo is demonstrative and passionate in love while capricorn prefers the less "flashy approach".Leo could find capricorn unresponsive and cold while cap will not like leos dramatic appeal in love.

mars: pisces and cancer
match: Excellent
Pisces and cancer understand each other and empathise with each other in every setting.Sex is not erotic rather tinged in fantasy and dreams.You both will prefer cuddling and staying in bed rather than facing the big bad world.Add some practicallity but otherwise an excellent pairing.

conclusion:like any relationship this one needs work to make it last.You both have a considerable number of earth and water signs in your chart so the potential is great.It may take time but the overal prospects are excellent.

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