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scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 238 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted October 25, 2004 12:30 AM
I'm worried about my capability to love. Has anyone else ever worried about such a thing? Lately, I've been keeping myself in the open heart, open mind frame of mind. I've kept optimistic about letting guys into my life. This weekend I met a guy and gave him a chance, we kissed & a little more... but again it was a disappointment. I wasn't feeling anything for him. And it was the saddest feeling in the world to not feel at all. I felt so cold and alone. He was interested in me but there was nothing from me. I wanted to give him a chance for the sake of keeping an open heart but then I had the disappointment of feeling so cold inside. I haven't had much experience with guys as I am still young. But I can't bear to have this feeling again. All I want is to feel a mutual chemistry. And I can't settle for anything less than my ideal of love...it's so dear to me. But why am I running into these people that I feel nothing for? I've met a few nice guys, probably great guys by anyone elses standards. It was so painful to feel such an emptiness. I wish someone would just come and melt the ice around my heart. IP: Logged |
pixelpixie Knowflake Posts: 4629 From: Ontario, Canada Registered: Aug 2003
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posted October 25, 2004 01:08 AM
But.......... How wonderful for you to have such passion. I see the opposite of 'frosty-girl'. You will settle for nothing but what is right for you. How is that cold? That is awe inspiring, and those poor dudes that can't get in are simply not made from the same stuff you are. Someone will come along, as you have identified what is important to you.. and you won't settle. Sheee-it.. a few kisses won't melt anything if you don't feel it from them... that isn't a defecit to you.. that is an advancement of your spirit. You have named what you want.. and it will happen. Besides, If they are decent guys as you say, then don't feel bad.. they'll get a decent gal. But you are spectacular. And decent just won't do. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 5156 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 25, 2004 01:33 AM
I step lightly, as I have no intention of undoing anything one Scorpio dame has to say to another ...But I've felt what Scorpbaby is feeling, and even sometimes still. Once I "knew" what sex was, it was always about the sexy guy who turned me on. They had a little bit of a hard edge to them. After a while, I felt empty, and so I tried dating the type of guy I wouldn't normally be attracted to, the proverbial "dependable" guy. One would think the love would grow and everything including the passion would just fall into place. But it would actually turn out worse for me, because the vanilla guys didn't know anything about being a "player", so it was like mushy-hurt for the guy, you know? At least a player is aware he is taking a risk. But the vanilla guy goes in blind and head first, with all his heart. Know what I mean? I'm not saying I want a "player", but someone sort of in between. Sophisticated and caring, yet street smart. And I did go through a very spiritual phase for many many years, where I too felt I had become too hardened by my experiences. Becoming spiritually grounded helped me to see the bigger picture, and it's a daily ritual, if you will. We're frequently faced with confusion in life, and we start to rewind all the tapes in our head about how we aren't "enough". Everytime I would speak to a good friend of mine, year after year of being "alone", he would always say optimistically "keep the faith!" Most of the time I wanted to choke him, but many years later, I finally realized what he meant. The answer IS having faith! The answer IS believing in a higher good. It's simply the act of "having faith" and "believing" which makes all the difference. For deep dark people, including me sometimes, it's kind of like YUK! All those happy feelings trying to ruin my pouting party. That's OK - sometimes we have to reach bottom in our own way in order to "see the light". Believe me, I know. Other than this, I'm not going to pretend to have any other answers. I'm still practicing. ------------------ ... it's better to light a candle than curse the darkness IP: Logged |
lllog Moderator Posts: 861 From: Springfield MO Registered: Jun 2002
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posted October 25, 2004 08:14 AM
A lot of times the act of trying gets in the way of just being. There is nothing worse than being with the wrong person for the wrong reason. When the time is ready, it will happen, but until then work on yourself so you will be ready. Lanny IP: Logged |
Yin Knowflake Posts: 443 From: Registered: May 2004
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posted October 25, 2004 08:37 AM
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miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted October 25, 2004 09:00 AM
Don't settle for any less than what you KNOW you can feel. Scorpios always know. Trust your instinct. Don't fall in love for the sake of being in love (so to speak). When you finally do meet THE ONE, you will be much happier that you waited. My heart goes out to you. Miss Muffet IP: Logged |
pixie-rose Knowflake Posts: 16 From: London Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 25, 2004 09:54 AM
I agree with what everyone has said to you scorpbaby - there is nothing wrong with what you have said and you are definitely not frosty! It seems that you know what you want and are not going to give your heart away to anyone for the sake of being in a relationship or being loved and that is something alot of people do!Good things come to those who wait - and im sure your good thing is on its way soon! You never find love when your looking for love! I could go on with the cheesy sayings but they do ring true! Keep believing and you will be fine! IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 5156 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 25, 2004 10:41 AM
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scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 238 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted October 26, 2004 12:51 PM
Thanks everyone for being so open with sharing advice. You are all so great! I realize now I should'nt feel guilty about this. It's hard to just give something half way when it comes to love and intimacy. Pix-You know as a Scorpio, it's all or nothing when it comes to love. I've doubted myself for so long, saying I didn't know what I wanted. But I really do know what I want because I've identified what is important to me. I havent just settled for anything. After hearing from all of you I feel much better about this situation. It's really just a part of finding the right person. I guess the old saying still rings true "you have to kiss a few frogs..." IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 5156 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 26, 2004 03:55 PM
Speaking of all or nothing, my understanding is a Natal Venus Conjunct Pluto makes one feel the same way. "... we don't need no water let the mf'er burn ..." IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 26, 2004 05:04 PM
Scorpbaby, i think i understand what you're going through because i feel very similar. I've always wondered if I was cold inside, but just reading people's replies to this thread has made me realise I am not. All my life I have only ever fallen in love once. (And it didnt work out ). If I get asked out i almost never fancy the guy back, but i'll go along with it, just to see what happens (or because I'm too soft to say no). So often I'll get to the point of almost sleeping with him, and i go cold and want to leave. Or i'll be kissing someone, and my thoughts go up over my head -like I'm just looking down on me and the guy kissing - like Im not really there in the moment, you know? And then it just feels like Im going through the motions — "acting", in a way that everyone expects one to, or I've seen on TV. I refuse to do one night stands but the two times I have done them, I felt empty - both during the time and even worse after. I was just going through an act, I wasnt feeling it. I wont do them anymore as I think it was soul-destroying, for me at least. I too, cling to an ideal, an absolute ideal of true passion and love and I do not think I will ever find it, because reality could never match up to my imagination. And I dont know what to do with that. I guess its my pisces moon that is cursing me. I often think I should be sensible and just choose someone. But then the thought of just being with someone for the sake of it just kills me. I cant stop myself from dreaming, and i know I would still carry on dreaming once I have picked someone and "settled". So i guess I am avoiding doing that. I'll probably stay single for the rest of my life because of this. I dont know what point Im trying to make with this! Im just rambling now, but I just wanted to say I do get you IP: Logged |
scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 238 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted October 26, 2004 05:58 PM
Hi Moonshine~ Yea that is exactly the same thing I've been going through. Sadly I think it's part of the game involved in finding the right one. It makes me uneasy to think there will be more disappointments but that is an unavoidable part of life. The good part is that we are still taking chances and being receptive to love. Take Care~ IP: Logged |
scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 238 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted October 26, 2004 05:58 PM
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Aen Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted October 27, 2004 08:16 AM
quote: I often think I should be sensible and just choose someone.
I guess most of us have felt this way at some point. OK, maybe not most, but I remember I sure have. Then I imagined what it would felt to be somebody's 'just chosen someone' and I didn't like it for one bit. So I'm reasoning that I can't do to a person something I don't want to happen to me. But, of course, I might be just delusional (Venus conj. Neptune, sextile Uranus) and all the sensible people have figured out something I simply don't grasp. Aen Cappy/Virgo, supposedly the epitome of practicality in relationship
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miss_muffet Knowflake Posts: 139 From: Registered: Mar 2004
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posted October 27, 2004 09:21 AM
I remember reading this somewhere but I don't remember the name of the person who quoted it but I do like it very much:Do not marry the person you can live with. Marry the one person you cannot live without. IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 27, 2004 03:19 PM
That's brilliant miss muffet. Says it all. IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 53 From: Registered: Oct 2004
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posted October 27, 2004 03:58 PM
Aen wrote: "But, of course, I might be just delusional (Venus conj. Neptune, sextile Uranus) and all the sensible people have figured out something I simply don't grasp. "-------- Yeah I've often wondered if they knew something I didnt. Coming from an Asian (Indian) background, I have been brought up with the idea that arranged marriage is the way to go. Its sensible, conventional and everyone does it. But I have always fought against it, despite increasing pressure, probably because I've always wanted to have that "big romance" ie meet my prince and have some big love story! And somehow, there's really nothing romantic about having your mum find your prince for you! But at times I get filled with self-doubt and wonder if I should just settle. Maybe I'm missing something? My mum is firm believer in that old indian cliche: "marriage comes first, love grows after" but thats just ridiculous to me. I think indian parents just tell their kids that so that they can save face in front of the community. I see my parents' marriage and i KNOW that love DOESN'T always grow after marriage. Their's didn't. They just grew resentful of each other. And, thanks to the social stigma against divorce in Indian circles, they have grown old merely stuck to each other. I so DON'T want a marriage like that. I will only settle for love, nothing less. Ive held out this long (I'm 33) and I dont want to give up. But its hard. IP: Logged |
astro junkie Moderator Posts: 5156 From: Registered: Nov 2003
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posted October 27, 2004 04:59 PM
Moonshine -I know - it's hard even for us who have the freedom to choose! IP: Logged |
Aen Knowflake Posts: 272 From: Registered: Nov 2002
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posted October 28, 2004 07:46 AM
Miss Muffet,I like that quote. Moonshine, Strength to you. Scorpbaby, Frost is a moment before sun comes to warm.
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sthenri Moderator Posts: 2274 From: Montreal, Canada Registered: May 2003
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posted October 28, 2004 09:06 AM
Scorpbaby, I have gone through periods of what you are describing. As a woman, you will go through so many phases in your life, and nothing is ever the same. There are going to be times when you are totally turned by everything, and times when you are worried about something.If you have anything else on your mind, that is more important to your body. It doesn't sound like you are frosty, more afraid. If you didn't know him very well, trust is what makes great intimacy, and your body can't react that quickly to someone new. Drinking is big because it knocks down the boundaries so people feel like they know eachother, not because that makes it better, but because the body has to trust the enviroment to relax. You wouldn't notice this. Ask yourself if you trust him. Your body has it's own reaction to trust and intimacy that is separate from your brain, meditation brings it together. Another idea is a trust game, ask yourself if you would close your eyes and let this man have free rein with your body, with the condition that he stop if you said stop. If not then you don't trust him. Once you feel that trust, your fears will lift and your body will relax. Hopefully he can trust you too, if he's nervous and most men are, his body isn't responding the way your body needs. Chemistry is a funny thing, it's instant and hard to deny. Once you have chemistry, ask him if he would do the same, close his eyes and let you touch him, promise to stop if he says so. Strong Scorpio influences cause your body to instantly understand if someone doesn't trust you totally, and trust is a big issue. Natasha Taurus IP: Logged |
scorpbaby Knowflake Posts: 238 From: Ny, USA Registered: Jun 2004
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posted October 28, 2004 10:05 AM
Thanks Natasha, Yes drinking has caused me to rush into things at times and it's in attempt to see if the person is "right". But I know it's not the right way to go about it. This is the 2nd time I've acted so rashly about things. SO naturally I started to beat myself up about it. Chemistry is something I notice first off...but then there are times when things are unclear. In a way I was testing the guy out to see if there was chemistry, which there wasn't. I also sometimes feel like I have to kiss the guy like its expected of me because we've been talking all night, and because it's college! I'm not very confident with men because of my past so I can be very awkward with them. I do need to find someone I can trust.IP: Logged |
sthenri Moderator Posts: 2274 From: Montreal, Canada Registered: May 2003
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posted October 30, 2004 09:19 PM
HI, if you have to test there isn't really chemistry so it's better to be friends. I know in college I was always feeling pushed to have a boyfriend I could say, was the one. The ones that want real intimacy are clear about what they want, they have faith and confidence, so you just have to find someone you can trust like you said.Natasha
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