posted December 20, 2004 04:07 PM         

I know it takes two to make a baby, and I know he is not "innocent" or was it all the women's fault. I know that, but I don't know if HE does or will even admit that he had a little something to do with the pregnancies.

But from this brief conversation, (which started when we were talking about Kobe Bryant and his wife and my response to the question if I would do this) he now has put me in that category of the "type" of woman that would do that to him too. And, he refuses (so far) to discuss it further. Ever. He said he NEVER wants to talk about again - and hung up on me. We haven't spoken since (and we've been talking daily). It's only been 2 months that we've been seeing each other/dating or whatever you want to call it.

So, I am devastated. I believe my Taurus sun in the 12th house is making me feel persecuted. I would do anything for him to "accept" me and be happy. I want to help his work through his pain and emotional baggage. The children, in case you're wondering, live with him. All 3 of them. And he never married the mothers but is friends with them all. He's very generous and will do anything for his children. They are 1st in his life.

His controlling nature is being indicated with his Cappy moon. He's so opinionated and talks like he's the authority on everything. But he has revealed a sensitive side to me to and I he has been considerate of me and my feelings - up to know. I'm just wondering if he would ever open up to me or will he continue to "judge" me and accuse me of being something that I really am not. And not even let me restate myself and refuse to hear where I stand. Having children is a sensitive issue for me too. He's not the only to have been hurt in this area. I have no children. I have been pregnant but not to full term. 5 times. If I tell him that... my god, what would he think then? I know I shouldn't be so sensitive and not worry about what he thinks - I will survive, and I'm prepared in case we never see each other again, or things don't "work out" but I just feel so bad and misunderstood.

I want to be his friend, forever. I want him to be happy and understand that I'd always be loyal and am not out to get him or trap him. I'm a giver not a taker. I have my own money, but money and things are not everything.

I want us to communicate like adults. I want to share, but he packed up his toys and has left the sandbox. Do you think he's gone for good?

Here's our make-ups:
ME
5/12/66 born in LA, CA
Taurus Sun
Aqua Moon
Gem Rising
Aries Venus
Taurus Mars
Cancer Jup

HIM
1/30/65 born in Newark, NJ
Aqua Sun
Cap Moon
Libra Rising
Cap Venus
Virgo Mars
Taurus Jup

posted December 20, 2004 04:40 PM         

Does he get you really mad too? Don't take what he says personally, or emotionally, be honest with your life as you see fit but he doesn't need to know everything about you. And vice versa. Tell him, that you want to be friends but it's not necessary that you two know your opinions all the time. You two are competing and there is an aggressive quality there. That aggressiveness is a strong sexuality both of you have, but it needs to be curbed.

Turn your pride into other things, like a competitive sport, or even date someone else and burn off that emotional energy. Your Aqua will not be the one for you, where you can have emotional arguments, it will make you too made, too proud.

He needs to turn his pride and competitive behaviour aside too.

If you can both do that you can be friends. But it will take some work on your part, as it did mine, because Taurus is stubborn, and competitive.

You are still that way even in the 12th house. I have it in the 6th house which is said to be humble, and it's not!

So avoid subjects about sex,marriage, money, or religion at all costs, and stick to sports, or some other one of his favourite hobbies.

I know a few people that I have to talk to strictly about their interests.

If you want a friend who can talk about anything pick a Sag, Pisces, Aries, or another Taurus.
Even Caps and Virgos are pretty combative, (the males I mean).

posted December 20, 2004 04:48 PM         

As far as I can see there are two types of lovers, one who holds your hand, but fights with you when it gets too deep. The other is the one who spends the emotional times with you, and loves to talk about how he feels. He won't hold your hand for fear of being hurt. Too sensitive. So your Aqua is a strong man, but not too sensitive. He may be depressed and you wouldn't know it BUT he may be there in the hard times.

Here are a couple of names
ian ian888@shaw.ca
I think he charges around 50 but he will talk to you for quite a while first. He's a Sag/Aqua Moon, who can talk to you about anything, very good person.

Here is another who I hooked up with more recently Adele aboya123@hotmail.com
She charges $50 a reading too.
Adele is in NYC, Ian is in Vancouver.
Both are very blunt and honest but very sensitive to what you are looking for. I like that.

Don't be afraid to email or call the Aqua if you really want to, Aquas love communication after all.

Natasha

posted December 20, 2004 06:33 PM         

I did send him a text msg. saying no matter what, I hope we can still be friends. I'm still yours and hope you're still mine. (Even though I feel like HE owes ME an apology - but i would apologize to him too. I hope we can make up).

But realistically, you're probably right. We'll be friends but probably not more. He said we aren't having kids and we aren't getting married, he's not a football player and not a millionaire.

I don't think he trusts me. Maybe I can earn it back over time.

posted December 23, 2004 12:48 PM         

If a Taurus stews about something, it can take 20 years to let go, and it only hurts inside. When she says she wants to be his friend, she could mean that she just doesn't want to argue anymore, allowing her to live a peaceful existence. Aquas love to argue, and that could be why she is calming the waves.

She has pointed out to him how she does not like the baby making, and she feels qualified to criticize. Aquas are funny people, and he may help her out emotionally in ways we know nothing about, or he may deliver her pizza!

For every winner we know, there are ten who are not so great people, it's part of the Venus nature to Love everyone, but we do not trust everyone, in fact Taurus is known for it's suspicion.

And it seems that she is not romantically involved, and that's a good thing,