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Topic: Someone help me-I dinīt know what to say
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Angelicus
Knowflake Posts: 41
From: Portugal
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 10:47 AM
 
Hello
Please someone take a intuitive and overall look about the future of this non conventional relationship, they are both married, but not with each other...
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PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Sagittarius 09°24'20 01
Moon Gemini 08°31'12 07
Mercury Sagittarius 28°12'04 02
Venus Capricorn 03°54'57 02
Mars Pisces 14°40'25 04
Jupiter Sagittarius 15°38'52 01
Saturn Gemini 02°30'46 07
Uranus Libra 17°06'13 11
Neptune Sagittarius 03°02'46 01
Pluto Libra 01°44'08 10
True Node Aquarius 06°49'59 03 HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Scorpio 21°59'38
2nd House Sagittarius 22°17'21
3rd House Capricorn 27°30'35
Imum Coeli Pisces 03°52'35
5th House Aries 05°36'29
6th House Taurus 01°05'59
Descendant Taurus 21°59'38
8th House Gemini 22°17'21
9th House Cancer 27°30'35
Medium Coeli Virgo 03°52'35
11th House Libra 05°36'29
12th House Scorpio 01°05'59 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- he
PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Taurus 07°54'28 08
Moon Leo 14°36'12 11
Mercury Aries 12°47'15 07
Venus Pisces 22°52'17 06
Mars Taurus 08°02'20 08
Jupiter Gemini 28°42'26 10
Saturn Pisces 25°32'03 06/7
Uranus Virgo 15°45'27 12
Neptune Scorpio 21°10'16 02
Pluto Virgo 16°00'58 12
True Node Taurus 25°25'46 09
HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Virgo 28°12'37
2nd House Libra 24°11'46
3rd House Scorpio 24°30'48
Imum Coeli Sagittarius 27°56'29
5th House Aquarius 01°26'13
6th House Pisces 01°56'05
Descendant Pisces 28°12'37
8th House Aries 24°11'46
9th House Taurus 24°30'48
Medium Coeli Gemini 27°56'29
11th House Leo 01°26'13
12th House Virgo 01°56'05
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PLANETARY POSITIONS
planet sign degree house
Sun Aquarius 23°39'24 04
Moon Cancer 11°33'42 09
Mercury Aquarius 20°29'39 04
Venus Aquarius 13°23'37 04
Mars Aries 11°21'22 06
Jupiter Virgo 22°10'39 11
Saturn Aries 29°01'24 07
Uranus Libra 01°25'50 11/12
Uranus is technically near the end of house 11 and is interpreted in house 12.
Neptune Scorpio 27°06'31 02
Pluto Virgo 23°52'33 11
True Node Aries 01°07'53 05/6
True Node is technically near the end of house 5 and is interpreted in house 6.
HOUSE POSITIONS (Placidus)
Ascendant Libra 25°06'07
2nd House Scorpio 23°14'34
3rd House Sagittarius 26°00'41
Imum Coeli Aquarius 00°54'32
5th House Pisces 03°31'21
6th House Aries 01°31'02
Descendant Aries 25°06'07
8th House Taurus 23°14'34
9th House Gemini 26°00'41
Medium Coeli Leo 00°54'32
11th House Virgo 03°31'21
12th House Libra 01°31'02
Do you think that some day they will be together as a conventional couple.
What they could expect from this ?
Itīs better to forget? What should I tell to she?
Thanks a lot Ana IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
Knowflake Posts: 562
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Registered: Jul 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 11:31 AM
This other person is wholly a different creature from you. She has all her personal planets in mutable signs, save her Venus in Capricorn, that could possibly make her very determined in her romantic life and ways of expressing herself intimately. With a Sag Sun/Gem moon, she probably is very flattering towards your Taurus Sun/Leo moon, but that doesn't mean what she says is deeply felt or even sincere. Overall, she's highly changeable and not likely to be very steadfast in her desires, ambitions, or outlook. You have fixed signs for your Sun and moon - while there might be vibe of atrraction, you probably are much more stable, if not stubborn, individual than she. In the long run she could find that oppressive and inhibiting, which would make a Sag/Gem rather miserible if you are not sensitive to her needs for new experience and to interact with different people. These kind of fundamental differences would take a lot time and energy to sort out in any relationship, but since both are married, I am highly doubtful both of you are free enough overall to put in the kind of work needed to make this work. Your Sun in in her 6th house, and her Mars in your 6th as well - these kind of placements might make you feel like you can be committed to each other. But the 6th house in synastry can be very oppressive and stressful for such energetic planets, and frustration and irritation is bound to happen. This will stress her more than you and it is likely to be a "fatal" flaw in you relationship. I don't think she's very capable to having "conventional" relationships at all - her Sun and moon are tightly opposed on the Sag-Gem axis - this makes her eager to explore and less eager to be genuinely committed or tied down. Also her Uranus is in Libra - that's her so-called "rebellion" sign, and with it in Libra she is apt to rebel against conventions relating to relationships and partnerships. My suspicion is that she's looking for an escape from her current situation, but not necessarily another committed relationship, even though, with a Gem moon, Sag Mercury and a Pisces Mars, she may tell you just about anything to get what she wants for you or make you happy. You, with a very possessive Taurus Sun and Leo moon, might need to look at control issues - are you pursuing this person because you feel you do not have enough control over you current situation and am seeking a new realtionship that maybe you could control? On a gut level, you probably sense her instablity and might think that she should be and/or could be easily controlled, but don't fool yourself. Your Uranus is in Virgo - you might think you can "fix" her or her situation, and in the process, liberate yourself from anything making you unhappy in your current situation. Again, don't fool yourself. Overall, I think the two you have some big issues to deal with on your own as well as together in order to make this work. But I can't tell you want to do or to say. Just know that she is probably a emotionally sensitve person even if she doesn't seem emotional on the surface, so whatever you decide to d, be thoughtful about it. I personally am not too keen on suggesting people should abandon their marriages for another person - if that is what you are implying about the two of you having an "conventional relationship" in the future. I think that if either of you are unhappy with your present situation, deal with it, resolve it, or get out of it. One you're out of it THEN move on to another realtionship. It's not fair to another pereson to be dragging past marriages/relationships in your relationship with them. But that's just my opinion. IP: Logged |
Angelicus
Knowflake Posts: 41
From: Portugal
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 01:08 PM
Gemini Nymph, Thanks for your response.While I was reading it I was thinkink about the person I know from this relationship, I know the girl she is my friend, Iīm not the male. I really donīt have the idea of unfixable person of her,but I understand your reading,I think her venus and mercury on the 2nd make her more fixed, then her firts planets impression.
I'm not very keen too on telling other person to keep affairs like this, but human relationships never are simple, and imperfection is how human beings are... I think she really love him,am I rong?? I hope not, if you can tell me more about their composite chart.
Thanks a lot
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maya-v
Knowflake Posts: 244
From: New York
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 02:13 PM
Oh man, is she in for a rough ride!I am a Taurus female, with a healthy dose of water and air in my chart. He is a true blue Sag, with most planets in Sag and others in Leo and Aries. His moon in Capricorn and Scorpio singleton keep him kinda grounded, but just. To say the least, its volatile and yet I feel so stranded sometimes, like I have to decode every word of his. Its exciting and fascinates me, but it also baffles me endlessly. Hope she is ready for the explosions, because I can promise you loads of fireworks! IP: Logged |
Angelicus
Knowflake Posts: 41
From: Portugal
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 02:44 PM
what do you mean saying that you hope she is ready for explosions?IP: Logged |
maya-v
Knowflake Posts: 244
From: New York
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 04:12 PM
Your guy is a Taurus with a Leo planet. If anything, he loves security and the surity of his mate being always there for him. And when he is let down, his Leo will roar in anger. And if there is one thing you can depend on an archer for, its uncertainty and unpredictability. The bull might sit back for a while, enjoying the display the archer puts on, but he will not tolerate her roaming eyes and wandering heart for long. He will wait till things get out of hand, and then charge with a roaring rage, or simply cut her out of his life and pretend she does not exist. Either way, she could end up getting hurt.IP: Logged |
Gemini Nymph
Knowflake Posts: 562
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Registered: Jul 2004
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posted January 06, 2005 07:57 PM
"I really donīt have the idea of unfixable person of her,but I understand your reading,I think her venus and mercury on the 2nd make her more fixed,"I doubt that. Want I said I can back up with personal experience: I have all personal planets except Mars, in mutable signs. Three of four of those planets are in "cardinal" houses, but that doesn't make me any less a mutable person. Furthermore, Someone wiht a Gem Sun or moon can appear very differently to differnt people, even mimic attributes of those they are around, but that doesn't mean they are on the inside what they appear on the surface. I can also back that up with personal expereince, being a Gemini Sun. I am very concern now, seeing you are spamming two different forums here, posting the same info, begging for replies, about a relationship that supposedly doesn't involve you. If you're really not the kind to meddle with other people's affairs, I don't know how you can explain your rather obsessive behavior here. I am not going to comment further on this, since I don't know what exactly your intentions are or what kind of answer you are fishing for. IP: Logged |
Angelicus
Knowflake Posts: 41
From: Portugal
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 07, 2005 06:11 AM
You donīt need to comment any post here,only if you want,I think that this is just a forum where people writte about their experienses, you donīt need to comment,maybe you donīt need to comment in that so affected way,I really donīt understand why, ,I was kind to you, what differece does it makes for you personally if I'm obessessive or not,if this is my personal case or if it doesnīt. You donīt know me and I donīt know you,I just want information, thatīs all. I could tell you why I īve posted this relationship not onlyonce, you would undersatnd, but Iīm not going totell you because I didn't like the way you have talked to me. Thatīs all for you.IP: Logged |
Jaqueline
Knowflake Posts: 1197
From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted January 17, 2005 11:55 AM
Hi Angelicus,Although a little bit late,I want to give you a "Welcome" 
I'm glad to see another person around that speaks Portuguese! Jackie IP: Logged |
Angelicus
Knowflake Posts: 41
From: Portugal
Registered: Dec 2004
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posted January 17, 2005 06:13 PM
Thanks Jacqueline. Obrigada, beijinhosIP: Logged |
Jaqueline
Knowflake Posts: 1197
From: Rio de Janeiro , Brazil
Registered: Oct 2002
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posted January 18, 2005 12:23 PM
Beijinhos para vocę tambem! 
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