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chrissymgreen
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posted January 06, 2005 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chrissymgreen     Edit/Delete Message
dear all,

i have a question that's been bugging me and i was wondering if anyone could help to shed some light on it. ill give a specific example to help illustrate: my venus is trine my partner's pluto by 3°, but my venus ruler is conjunct my partner's pluto by 3°. my question is a little complicated and pertains to how the planetary ruler aspect factors in to the equation. would my venus ruler being conjunct his pluto make the trine aspect between the 2 planets act more like a conjunction? my thoughts are that it does, im sure that it does influence the interaction between the 2 planets in some way because it certainly feels like we have a venus-pluto conjunction (intense, possessive, highly sexual).

what do you guys think? anyone have any personal examples of similar situations?

sincerely,
chrissy

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Gemini Nymph
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posted January 06, 2005 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gemini Nymph     Edit/Delete Message
"would my venus ruler being conjunct his pluto make the trine aspect between the 2 planets act more like a conjunction? my thoughts are that it does, im sure that it does influence the interaction between the 2 planets in some way because it certainly feels like we have a venus-pluto conjunction "

Yes that is a complicated question, as it touches on something I have seen astrologers not address very well, usually because they don't see it anything of note. Specifically, trines in synastry tend to act an awful lot like conjunctions, and not like trines would in a natal chart. In fact, it's rarely pointed out that aspects have a subtly different character and function in synastry than they do in natal astrology.

My personal take on it is this: when you have a strong trine in synsatry, in particular in involving Sun, moon or Venus in one of the charts, the result is a trine that is far more energized than a trine in a natal chart, because it's like a highly conductive pathway of the energies of *two* charts to feed into one another, very much as a conjunction would be in synastry as well. With double the energy, the more energized a trine is.

As for the ruler side of it, I'd have to look at your charts to get a better vibe on it, but in essence its likely that a contact between your Venus ruler and his Pluto may color your overall reception to his Pluto energies. This would include your Venus, but how receptive your Venus is to this particualr nuance is further influenced by whether your Venus is dignified or afflicted in your chart - if it's highly afflicted or lacking dignity, it probably counteract or negate any benefit from his pluto being conjunct your Venus ruler.

But suffice to say, I think you may be overcomplicating things. Like I said above, trines in synastry tend to act like conjunctions. This trine is probably fairly energied on its own, regradless to any influence from your Venus ruler.

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chrissymgreen
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posted January 07, 2005 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chrissymgreen     Edit/Delete Message
wow, thanks, gn! i'm really glad to see you, by the way. i hope you had a nice holiday.

your response makes a lot of sense. i guess i forgot to add that the reason i chose this particular aspect as an example of the question i had about planetary rulers was because venus happens to be my chart ruler (AC in libra) and pluto is his chart ruler (AC, venus, mars & uranus in scorp...pluto is also a singleton in his chart, the only cardinal sign - libra). perhaps this in and of itself is the reason this aspect seems particularly powerful.

my venus is actually square his pluto ruler by 5°, but they are (i dont know how you say it exactly) antiscion to each other, which has something to do with solstice points and i think it acts as a positive strengthening influence.

i suppose i was curious about planetary ruler aspects because it seemed like they could (maybe) enhance the nature of the actual aspect between the 2 bodies (for the planetary ruler person, anyway).

you shed some light on the nature of a trine in synastry for me. thanks, again!

sincerely,
chrissy

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