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moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 13, 2005 11:26 AM
Hi guys, I'm normally wary of predicting the future but I was wondering if someone can tell me if I have any future at all with my long-term on-again-off-again guy (I hesitate to say "boyfriend"). ------ Here are our stats: ME: Sun Virgo 12°33'35 03 direct Moon Pisces 21°25'25 09 direct Mercury Leo 27°23'05 02/3 stationary (D) (Mercury is technically near the end of house 2 and is interpreted in house 3.) Venus Virgo 15°01'11 03 direct Mars Aquarius 11°59'06 08 retrograde Jupiter Scorpio 29°16'05 05 direct Saturn Gemini 06°22'02 11/12 direct (Saturn is technically near the end of house 11 and is interpreted in house 12.) Uranus Libra 11°59'43 04 direct Neptune Sagittarius 00°27'42 05 direct Pluto Virgo 28°53'58 03/4 direct (Pluto is technically near the end of house 3 and is interpreted in house 4.) True Node Aquarius 14°21'36 08 retrograde House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Cancer 08°47'36 2nd House Leo 02°43'04 3rd House Leo 28°52'44 Imum Coeli Virgo 29°17'33 5th House Scorpio 03°21'25 6th House Sagittarius 07°26'32 Descendant Capricorn 08°47'36 8th House Aquarius 02°43'04 9th House Aquarius 28°52'44 Medium Coeli Pisces 29°17'33 11th House Taurus 03°21'25 12th House Gemini 07°26'32 Major aspects Sun Conjunction Venus 2°28 Sun Quincunx Mars 0°34 Sun Square Saturn 6°12 Sun Sextile Ascendant 3°46 Moon Opposition Venus 6°24 Moon Trine Jupiter 7°51 Moon Opposition Pluto 7°29 Mercury Square Jupiter 1°53 Mercury Square Neptune 3°05 Mars Trine Saturn 5°37 Mars Trine Uranus 0°01 Jupiter Conjunction Neptune 1°12 Jupiter Sextile Pluto 0°22 Saturn Trine Uranus 5°38 Saturn Opposition Neptune 5°54 Uranus Square Ascendant 3°12 Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°34 HIM: planet sign degree house motion Sun Virgo 19°34'43 12 direct Moon Sagittarius 02°36'12 02 direct Mercury Virgo 04°19'05 11 direct Venus Leo 04°17'00 10 direct Mars Cancer 28°12'28 10 direct Jupiter Taurus 26°07'07 08 stationary (R) Saturn Pisces 00°18'21 05 retrograde Uranus Virgo 11°02'01 11 direct Neptune Scorpio 15°38'30 02 direct Pluto Virgo 14°11'20 11 direct True Node Gemini 28°15'02 09 retrograde House positions (Placidus) Ascendant Libra 10°23'47 2nd House Scorpio 05°18'51 3rd House Sagittarius 06°34'53 Imum Coeli Capricorn 13°43'23 5th House Aquarius 19°16'29 6th House Pisces 18°02'36 Descendant Aries 10°23'47 8th House Taurus 05°18'51 9th House Gemini 06°34'53 Medium Coeli Cancer 13°43'23 11th House Leo 19°16'29 12th House Virgo 18°02'36 Major aspects Sun Trine Jupiter 6°32 Sun Sextile Neptune 3°56 Sun Conjunction Pluto 5°23 Moon Square Mercury 1°43 Moon Trine Venus 1°41 Moon Trine Mars 4°24 Moon Opposition Jupiter 6°29 Moon Square Saturn 2°18 Moon Sextile Ascendant 7°48 Mercury Opposition Saturn 4°01 Mars Sextile Jupiter 2°05 Mars Quincunx Saturn 2°06 Jupiter Square Saturn 4°11 Uranus Sextile Neptune 4°36 Uranus Conjunction Pluto 3°09 Neptune Sextile Pluto 1°27 ------- Can anyone see a long-term compatibility with us? Is there a soul mate indicator or similar present in our horoscope? Im asking becuase I dont know how to go forward in this relationship. He means the most to me than any man ever has but I guess I get the relationship I deserve with him as I am quite non-commital and so is he. So we have been 'hanging around' each other, so to say, for about six years now and I guess I've come to the stage where I want my life to move on but I dont know where to go from here. I have such deep feelings for him but I dont know whether I need to get him out of my system and try and find another. I tried to have a discussion with him yesterday and since then he seems to have gone AWOL so Im guessing he isnt happy discussing it!! This kind of thing happens all the time. I'm sorry if I sound confusing, (its a very long story) I just want to know - are we meant to be??
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running_bull Knowflake Posts: 151 From: the desert, usa Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 13, 2005 08:39 PM
Sorry to laugh but, tee hee hee, lol.(eta: i'm only laughing at my own silliness ) This sounds like my relationship with Virgo's. Its seems to me that Virgo's can be very much "come here I miss you, then, you can go now I no longer miss you" lol.Problem is the two of you are both that way (kudos for trying Virgo & Virgo), so like you said its a very lazy relationship in the area of progress. One reason he may be ducking out of the talk is because your Mercury and Mars aspects overpower his more quiet ones. I'm not saying you have to let him win an argument, just ease up a little and listen to what he wants and needs. let him talk, lol. He'll probably open up if given the chance, well I hope he does. I can't predict if you will make it through, but one sure way to find out is by discussing it. What usually worked for me was to talk while in bed or cuddling. Also helps if you call that way he can say whatever he might be afraid to in a face to face situation. Good luck to you both. IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 14, 2005 06:59 PM
thanks running_bull. so there is nothing that strongly sceams out meant to be? I didnt realise my signs were so much more powerful than his, i guess my mercury in Leo needs to be heard and his mars in cancer wants to run and hide! Lol, there is nothing simple about relationships is there?! IP: Logged |
running_bull Knowflake Posts: 151 From: the desert, usa Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 14, 2005 09:35 PM
Hi Moonshine,Sorry, I didn't see anything that reads soul mate, but that's rare I think. You are right, nothing is simple in relationships. I don't believe you can tell through astrology if a relationship was meant to be. For example, I love my ex-boyfriend very much and we have some very nice aspects in synastry. But, we aren't together now because it wasn't working for either of us. I can't say we will never be together in the future and I would never say I wasted the time I did spend with him. It was a learning experience. I know a lot more about myself, what I offer, and my wants, needs, etc., now, than I would had we not met and spent time together. Anyway, my point is; if you want him hold on tight and work on the relationship. If he needs to change and you can't help him, let him go so he can make changes and come back a better person. If you're ready to move on and don't feel its a satisfying relationship, move on. But always be your Virgo truthful self. Virgo's are excellent for dispensing advice. It may be time to focus your keen mind on what you want and need. I wish you luck in every endeavor, especially love. Happy Valentine's day. IP: Logged |
Mama Mia Knowflake Posts: 373 From: chicago Registered: Aug 2004
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posted February 15, 2005 05:37 PM
Yes pillow talk is good. My lil one's dad is a Virgo and wow he was a force to be reckon with. BUT I figured out that if I talk to him after love making it opens him up. and it did as with alot of me,but I used it for him for sure. We did not make it and he is the typical Virgo can't committ to anything we were together off and on for 51/2 yrs so I know... ANd that part about I miss you come here and once you do now I don't miss you is so true for him.. LOL!!!! IP: Logged |
SparklingSag Knowflake Posts: 134 From: Kent Registered: Nov 2003
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posted February 15, 2005 07:16 PM
Hey, I noticed you have Sag moon and Pisces moon. How do you two relate to each other? I'm a Sag sun so might be able to offer some insightIP: Logged |
Isis Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: CA Registered: Jan 2004
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posted February 15, 2005 09:36 PM
quote: he is the typical Virgo can't committ to anything
Virgo is one of the signs I don't seem to know that much about, or conversely, have major misconceptions about them. In another thread someone commented that Virgos were kinky, as if that were common knowledge. Is that the case? I was under the impression they were somewhat sexually repressed as a Sun sign (obviously other aspects like Venus affect that as well). So Virgos are notorious avoiders of committment? That doesn't make sense per my understanding of Virgos - in my experience they seem to be able to commmit no problem, at least, to all sorts of service-related things (work, helping people, etc). I only dated one for a few months right out of high school, and come to think of it, he was the only bf I'm aware of to have cheated on me...and he was quite the shameless ******* about it as well. Sorry to hijack your thread Moonshine. If you would prefer, just say the word and I'll edit this out and create it's own thread. It's just, I have been trying to understand Virgo for some time now, with 5 planets in Scorp and Pluto in Virgo. This is the second time I've seen a comment that doesn't jibe with what is probably my misconception of how Virgos are. I would love to hear from you Virgos out there on the subject. IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 5908 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted February 15, 2005 10:17 PM
Hi Isis,There was a thread awhile back called "Kinky Virgos" in Astrology, I'll try to find it. And yes, they are. They are not always the innocent Virgins that their sign claims they are. At least in my experience. Theyre an earth sign and earth signs can be quite sensual and sexy, as you know. But there is alot more to the "Virgin" than meets the eye. Alot hidden under that sometimes uptight exterior. IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 5908 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted February 15, 2005 10:41 PM
Okay I can't find the thread. Thinking about it, I dont think I'd describe the Virgo I knew as "kinky" per say but I will say I've heard that alot from others. And Virgo females that I have known definitely sound kinky from what they've said. Sorry, back on topic. IP: Logged |
running_bull Knowflake Posts: 151 From: the desert, usa Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 15, 2005 11:55 PM
Hey 26Taurus,I remember that thread about kinky Virgo's, even posted on it. Here's the link: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/003929.html IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 5908 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted February 15, 2005 11:59 PM
LMAO! Oh yes, we did. IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 5908 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted February 16, 2005 12:02 AM
Funnily enough though, I think there was another kinky Virgo thread. LOL!!! One that didnt have so much turd talk.Or maybe it was just in a thread that went way off track, like they often do. IP: Logged |
running_bull Knowflake Posts: 151 From: the desert, usa Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 16, 2005 12:12 AM
quote: I think there was another kinky Virgo thread. LOL!!!
Knowing Virgo's the way I do, I wouldn't doubt it. Lol IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 16, 2005 06:16 PM
yes that kinky virgo-aries thread was mine! Lol *embarassed* That was a different Virgo guy (Aries moon) - and a whole nother story... might tell you about that one later!You all say interesting things but Desperate housewifes is starting so Im gonna come back in an hour to reply! ciao! IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 17, 2005 04:41 AM
In my experience I dont think Virgos are very good at commitment, at least not in the beginning stages - maybe its the perfectionist streak?? About the sag moon and pisces moon combo: not sure its a good one...we both want freedom - I know he does, and for me I guess Im too idealistic as well.. as well as too perfectionist lol. I look at him and see all his faults, but then I do love him too.. and I find it hard to reconcile them sometimes! I dont know what his problem with me is, he doesn't tell me! and as much as i want to, I find it hard to fully open up to him and let him know my secrets.... Im afraid he'll judge me or go off me, I guess I need tofeel more secure to do that - is there a communication blockage in our chart?? About the kinky virgo-aries guy who wanted me to pee in front of him in the other thread: I've since found out that not only is he a Christian, but celibate too! Go figure that one out!!! 26t: I know you're referring to the pharell thread - I dont care if people hijack or or change the thread topic, do whatever you want... but if someone ****** me off with their comment, I will say so. And I did thats all IP: Logged |
running_bull Knowflake Posts: 151 From: the desert, usa Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 17, 2005 06:10 AM
Pesky Virgo's, they never tell anything, lol. Don't worry, you're probably afraid to open up in reaction to his being closed. He has sun, pluto and mercury in Virgo with cancer in mars, so he is even more likely (than most Virgo's) to be quiet about his feelings and needs. Add to that his moon squaring mercury and saturn... he may truly believe no one cares what he thinks or may not want to risk having his true feelings and emotions judged.You could try to coax a real response from him, though. Have you ever made him angry? Does he ever vent? If so, that's the time to ask him about how he really feels. Good luck. p.s. I still Virgo's and miss mine a lot. I know what you are experiencing. IP: Logged |
26taurus Moderator Posts: 5908 From: the stars Registered: Jun 2004
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posted February 17, 2005 06:41 AM
Moonshine, I have no idea what you are talking about. I know the "pharrell" thread but I havent even read it. IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 18, 2005 04:01 AM
oh sorry 26t, think i got the wrong end of the stick! IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 18, 2005 04:07 AM
Thanks running_bull you've been so helpful! I've just realised something - my moon is in the 9th house, which is ruled by saggitarius, his moon is in sag - would that be the explanation for my strong attraction to him? IP: Logged |
Isis Knowflake Posts: 1034 From: CA Registered: Jan 2004
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posted February 18, 2005 01:14 PM
Ok, so Virgos can't talk about their feelings either? Sheesh, I need to start a new thread...I'm finding I know zippo about Virgos.
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running_bull Knowflake Posts: 151 From: the desert, usa Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 18, 2005 02:52 PM
Hi Moonshine,The 9th house wouldn't have much to do with love. Perhaps his mind or the way he thinks really appeals to you. Or something about the way he communicates may spark something in your mind and compliment your feeling's as a sag moon? What may also help this aspect, is that he has sag in his 3rd house. it just adds more fire to the mental connection between you both. A good explanation for your attraction is the lovely Sun conjunct Sun aspect, coupled with his Sun conjunct your Venus. Those aspects should make for a feeling of knowing each other and feeling good in each other's company. p.s. at this point don't hesitate to call him your boyfriend. he is for the most part. one of you guys just has to try and make a move in that direction, you never know it just may work out. Good luck. IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 20, 2005 04:39 PM
Thank you very much running bull, but I will not call him my boyfriend because he's a b*stard. He's stood me up FIVE times in a row now (including today). I dont know any other woman who would put up with this! I'm not going to either. Its over between us, ive had enough. he texted me on thursday saying he knows he's let me down and wants to meet up definitely this weekend, then Firday night he *remembered* that he had to meet a friend that night (I dont know who), then Saturday he said he had to work, but that we'd def meet up at some point over the weekend and now its sunday night and NADA. I m not sitting aroud waiting for him even tho it might sound like it. And Im not putting a gun to his head - he's telling me himslef that he wants to see me. And then letting me down. Every time. I really like him and I thought after all this time that we were at the very least friends . But I dont know what he's doing -- either he's no longer into me but too chickenshit to tell me or he's met someone else and too chickenshit to tell me. I feel like he's just stringing me along. I deserve better than this from him. Im a fool becuse everytime I get my hopes up an I should know better by now! He should just be a man and tell me straight. I guess Im getting my just rewards for being the same way with boyfriends in the past. But Im a long time friend I deserve better dont you think? sorry just ranting, drinking too much red wine. IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 20, 2005 05:13 PM
why can't I get a guy who wants to stick around with me?? with no games and no funny business. I just feel so fed up.IP: Logged |
running_bull Knowflake Posts: 151 From: the desert, usa Registered: Nov 2004
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posted February 20, 2005 07:44 PM
Moonshine, I wish you the best and have faith that you will have a good mate in life. Maybe you can think of this relationship as a learning experience? Now you know what you don't want. Good fortune to you. IP: Logged |
moonshine Knowflake Posts: 235 From: UK Registered: Oct 2004
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posted February 21, 2005 02:23 PM
Thanks for all your wise words running_bull. You've helped me so much. I'm not normally this pathetic, honest! In fact it makes me angry that I can get so worked up over a man like this! But I feel better now. Thank you very much. IP: Logged |