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scorpbaby
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posted March 03, 2005 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Well the Pisces let me down easy as I posted in the Haunting Love thread. And he was kind and respectful for doing so.
This is all very strange because the love triangle I seem to have created last yr has resurfaced, same exact timing and everything!

It all began last year when I started to like the Pisces I also had a liking for his friend, well his team mate. I'm not too sure if they are friends.

I think the attraction with this other man, I'll call him "Libra", was based upon the fact he seemed genuinly interested in me and he's also very handsome. But instead I pursued the man that was less available (Pisces man). That seems to be the rend with me. And I think I've pieced it together that I must go after the unavaliable men bc of my own actual fears of intimacy. It's the sad truth.

Now it is a yr later and right after Pisces entered my life the Libra has also come back. I had thought about them both for a whole year and almost out of a dream they just appear suddenly into my life.

This Libra is scaring me because he seems to know so much about me without me telling him anything! Either he is an extremely observant person or just psychic. As a Scorpio I never reveal that much, and I like to think I keep my pain and secrets controlled under a cool exterior. (ya know how it is fellow scorps) And I like to keep it this way because I feel in control and invisible.
But in the end, this control over my personality isn't good for forming relationships.

Every other man has bought into my cool facade but the LIBRA refuses. And he actually told me twice already that I act as though I have a huge wall around me. He's told me that I need to trust him. Did I mention how aggressive/persistant he is? This fact alone has caused me to put up all my best ego defenses. Then like a flash I realize HOW stupid I've been. The only reason I find him irritating is because he's the first person to see through me.

I've always felt detachment with men my whole life, and it's made me very sad. I've wanted to be close with them but never could trust them enough to allow myself this.
The Libra knows this about me without me even telling him anything about my life... and I don't know how. And now he's offering me his trust.
Why am I scared of the one thing I need?


I have:
Acendant, Venus, Mars in Libra
Venus 1st
Mars 12th
Sun,Mercury, Saturn, Pluto--Scorp
Moon--Taurus

He has:

Mercury, Mars, Uranus Scorpio.
Sun,Saturn, Pluto--Libra
Venus Virgo~> This placement could explain why he "fusses" "nit picks" at me or wants to save me.

Moon-- Leo

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Mystic Dreamz
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posted March 03, 2005 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Mystic Dreamz     Edit/Delete Message
Scorp baby take risks do not be afraid. Each time you get hurt it makes you stronger.


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sthenri
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posted March 03, 2005 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
He sounds sweet, just make sure you know him pretty well first before getting emotionally involved. Libras move fast and move on too, so make sure he knows he has to be your friend first for at least three-4 months. If he still wants to be your true friend he won't rush you. Other than that, there are good signs, as your Venus/1st would need to learn security from someone and Libras have lots of confidence in love,

If you ever fall out of love with him though, he will cease to work for you as a friend, so make sure to be strict with yourself when or if that happens, Libra men don't make great friends afterwards, it's usually all or nothing.

Take your time, he sounds cute,

Natasha
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Luna
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posted March 04, 2005 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luna     Edit/Delete Message
All Libras are experts on the way women think so it makes them seem psychic.

No more Libran dudes for this water sign. They push all the wrong buttons for me.

Being brutally honest, if youre a knockout he will keep coming back for more.

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Luna
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posted March 04, 2005 06:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Luna     Edit/Delete Message
Oh yeah, and they need everyone to like them, they absolutely cant understand it if you dont want to befriend them.

Be careful....

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scorpbaby
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posted March 05, 2005 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks everyone for your replies, they were very helpful!
I know how one might think to "proceed with caution" because a lot of Libran men are flighty. But this Libran acts very different and I don't know why. He has a lot of Scorpio in his chart, I'm thinking his ascendant is Scorp too. And then I also have a Libran and Scorpio stellium in my 1st house. SO things seems to fit together nicely so far.

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sue g
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posted March 07, 2005 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
No more Libra men for me too - sorry to sound harsh,but I was married to one and one of my best friends, a Libra male has just let me down, after getting behind my cool facade, I think its a game for some of them..........please be careful and dont think me too scathing, Ive just been hurt one time too many. Love and good luck xx

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sue g
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posted March 07, 2005 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
p.s. to back up what Luna said, they do want everyone to like them and also they are NEVER in the wrong, its like "but you don't understand". Game players never did last long with me, I value honesty too much - Libra men and honesty do they really go together?

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scorpbaby
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posted March 07, 2005 10:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue, Yea I completely understand what you and Luna are implying. For some reason I attract Libran types like bees on honey, and yea thats kind of annoying.

But this Libran is very different then the others I've encountered. He acts more like a Scorpio or Taurus, maybe asc.. I just hate to generalize all Libra dudes.

And in my mind it's more like; MEN and honesty, do they really go together?
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scorpbaby
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posted April 19, 2005 07:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scorpbaby     Edit/Delete Message
**In need of desperate advice**

I just want to share that Mr. LIBRA has re-re-entered my life. I'm more than positive now that this is a karmic bond. Never have I kept reuniting with a person with whom I've only shared a few special moments with. But there is something that keeps us coming back, and I'm oblivious to what that is right now.

Of course now I'm getting the case of cold feet. He talked about me to a friend and said that he has nothing but respect for me and thinks I'm a great girl.

And then just the other night he told me this in person. I'm suprised he puts up with such a complex/frustrating person like myself. He just keeps suprising me with all the consideration he has shown me.I underestimated him from the beginning because of what he appears to be (A jock that parties alot were my impressions) I never thought I'd be the one to rely on sterotypes to make a judgment.


He's very sympathetic to the fact that I'm nervous.But saying I'm nervous is an understatement.

A part of me wants love so bad I could die, and then the other half just wants to run away...
What is the end result of a life void of true love and intimacy?
Why do I resist?
I really hate myself right now...

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sthenri
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posted April 19, 2005 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Libra men aren't psychic, you are just very out front with your feelings, so they are easy to read. He is sympathetic and chatty and you like him, why are you afraid because of the Pisces? Keep your physical and emotional boundaries organized and you will be fine, every man is different. Don't think you are afraid of intimacy because you go after unavailable men, we all confront blockages in our lives, it's necessary.

Plus we don't always know if a man is ready or not until we have explored our feelings for him. It would be nice if we could find out first, then bother, but it never works like that. The commitable ones are always a little shy about their lives in the first place. Over the years you will attach a little to many men who after a few weeks or months, you find out are not available right now. It's good that you can explore your feelings quickly and honestly, it saves heartache.

Imagine if you got attached forever? If you got attached then you are not afraid of intimacy, only afraid of being hurt and that's normal.

Think of the real things that could happen to you:

You could
Get hurt physically?
Get hurt emotionally?
Be bored?
Frustrated?
Angered?
All these things could happen with a female friend too! The only difference is physical intimacy which you can take day by day, especially with a Libra. He won't rush you unless he's upset or insecure, even then he will follow your lead.

If you find yourself unhappy, ask yourself if you would put up with this from a female friend? If not then you are relying too heavily on the romantic parts of him, and that's not realistic. It's easy to be afraid of rejection, which is the real fear surrounding unavailable men and intimacy, but everyone feels this way. Do not be sensitive to the fact you may be rejected or have to reject him, because he's one friend, he won't change your life unless you want him to.

Libras can make you feel as if you are friends for life, and that can seem overwhelming. It's okay to ask for respect/space and stay in the relationship. I can imagine he will get touchy feely with you at some point because he's ruled by Venus. If this happens, you have all the control, and it may be better if you let him know you want to make the first move. That way he understands how you feel about him, and at the same time will respect your space and needs.

Libra sun and moon men both make me nervous too and it's about touching, they do a lot of light intimate touching without realizing it and it makes me super sensitive. You are not even aware they are doing it!

Does this Libra have long term potential? If he does and he can't be available within a few months then he won't be ready. Long term potential means, without g/f, has a job, has goals, a place to live, that kind of thing. If he has all that, and he's still available and interested after a few months, then talk about "going steady".

Since he's a Libra, the actual commitment talk will be up to you. Just don't get locked into being best buddies, before you do your research.

The good news I can see is that his Moon in Leo wants to pamper you, which is great!

Good Luck,
Natasha

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