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maya-v
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posted July 06, 2005 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
"White Flag"

I know you think that I shouldn't still love you,
Or tell you that.
But if I didn't say it, well I'd still have felt it
where's the sense in that?

I promise I'm not trying to make your life harder
Or return to where we were

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

I know I left too much mess and
destruction to come back again
And I caused nothing but trouble
I understand if you can't talk to me again
And if you live by the rules of "it's over"
then I'm sure that that makes sense

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

And when we meet
Which I'm sure we will
All that was there
Will be there still
I'll let it pass
And hold my tongue
And you will think
That I've moved on....

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

I will go down with this ship
And I won't put my hands up and surrender
There will be no white flag above my door
I'm in love and always will be

Isnt it sad that when you have the whole world at your feet, when you can get anything you wish for, you have so much power that you can manifest virtually anything into your life ... you are heading towards a dream job, you have the most adorable little angel for a son and a great group of amazing friends ... that when the most amazingly remarkable guys are ready to die for you, constantly call you their muse and how you blow their minds ... that when you are at the pinnacle of glory, fame and power ....

Your dreams and every waking moment is haunted by that same lightning pair of fiery blue eyes ... eyes that look at you as a stranger, not knowing how you would give up, in a wink, anything and everything to see even a glimmer, a faint hint of recognition and warmth in those eyes ... hear that magickal voice say your name ... but you're the only one to blame when you fall so desperately and hopelessly in love with a loon, who has no time, no awareness of anything or anyone around it, whose every conscious moment and dreaming reality is ruled by that crazy moon ...

No, you cannot blame anyone when you give your heart to a blue-eyed angel so in love with the moon ...

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steelrose
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posted July 06, 2005 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
You made me cry, Maya…

I truly hate that song… I was in a relationship with a man for a year and a half… That song was his lifetime theme, the summary of the tragedy that ended his marriage… His ex and him danced that stupid dance of love and hate… Unable to move on, unable to forgive… And I was caught in the middle…

I gave my heart out of a promise that couldn’t be fulfilled. His heart was trapped so I could do nothing but bleed to death as a mute witness…

I used to cry dry tears in his car when this song by Dido started to play… He loved it… He bought that CD and played over and over… Those words scarred my soul many times…

And then “Life For Rent” came to remind me that I was a fugitive in my own life… And pushed me to the ground…

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steelrose
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posted July 06, 2005 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
"Life For Rent"

I haven't ever really found a place that I call home
I never stick around quite long enough to make it
I apologize that once again I'm not in love
But it's not as if I mind
that your heart ain't exactly breaking

It's just a thought, only a thought

But if my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy
Well I deserve nothing more than I get
Cos nothing I have is truly mine

I've always thought
that I would love to live by the sea
To travel the world alone
and live more simply
I have no idea what's happened to that dream
Cos there's really nothing left here to stop me

It's just a thought, only a thought

But if my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy
Well I deserve nothing more than I get
Cos nothing I have is truly mine

If my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy
Well I deserve nothing more than I get
Cos nothing I have is truly mine

While my heart is a shield and I won't let it down
While I am so afraid to fail so I won't even try
Well how can I say I'm alive

If my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy
Well I deserve nothing more than I get
Cos nothing I have is truly mine

If my life is for rent and I don't learn to buy
Well I deserve nothing more than I get
Cos nothing I have is truly mine
Cos nothing I have is truly mine
Cos nothing I have is truly mine
Cos nothing I have is truly mine

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pidaua
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posted July 06, 2005 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Always remember, relationships have ups and downs. There are times when you just have to let go and give the person space, especially since at some point you will be the one needing yours as well.

I am not sure what is happening, but it doesn't sound good- if you are feeling on a roller coaster...well, it's time to cut that relationship off at the knees and move on.

Maybe some of the things were too good to be true? Maybe it was a rebound from your Archer? Or I could be way off and this is about your Archer. I have no idea any more as there seems to be SO much drama going on around here.

So...again..what's up Maya?

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Tranquil Poet
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posted July 06, 2005 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tranquil Poet     Edit/Delete Message
I love this song. The cappy I love says this is the only song that will make him cry. If we ever go our seperate ways then I will always remember him through this song


Phill Collins
Against all odds

How can I just let you walk away,
just let you leave without a trace.
When I'm standing taking every breath
with you,uuuh..
you´re the only one
who really knew me at all.
How can you just walk away from me
when I'm liking do is what you
need, cause we share the laughter and the pain
and even we share the tears,
you´re the only one
who really knew me at all...


So take a look at me now,
cause it´s just an empty space
there´s nothing left here to remind me,
just the memory of your face.

You coming back to me is against the odds
and that's what I have to face.

I wish I could just made you turn around,
turn around and see me cry,
there so much I need to say to you,
so many reasons why
you 're the only one
who really knew me at all.


Take a look at me now
I should be standing here
there's nothing left here to remind me...


And you comming back to me,
is against all odds
that's the chance I gotta take.
take a look at me now

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maya-v
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posted July 06, 2005 09:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
No time for more than a hurried reply. Pid, if the drama being referred to is that of my creation, than I am truly sorry. You're right, this place has had enough of my tantrums, maybe I shouldnt have said anything.

Thanks for caring, sweetie, you still are one of my best friends, even if we dont talk much now.

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posted July 06, 2005 09:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tranquil Poet     Edit/Delete Message
Maya..........let it out whenever you have to

Who cares what other people think. Some people don't know how to be sensitive to other people's feelings. We have alot of that around here.

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I would fly to the moon and back...If you'll be my baby.

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pixelpixie
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posted July 07, 2005 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
sometimes even the ones who do care, forget sometimes, and thats okay, as long as it doesn't happen too much.

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BlueTopaz124
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posted July 07, 2005 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlueTopaz124     Edit/Delete Message
maya-v...I don't think Pid was talking specifically about your drama...there's a lot of other drama(s) going on all over this board.


kisses
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steelrose
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posted July 07, 2005 02:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for steelrose     Edit/Delete Message
Maya, sweetie, don't worry about expressing your feelings... Why shouldn't you?

How are you feeling today?

What is exactly happening? Is that blue-eyed ungrateful soul not noticing you? How couldn't he? Such a cutie you are...

Sorry if I was harsh in my reply... I didn't mean to sound ununderstanding... But that song provoked me a physical reaction, that's all... I've been missing him a bit recently... He promised me he'll keep in touch, he pleaded for my friendship... And now he has just ruled me out, he must have a new toy... Another woman to promise his love to and warm his bed, to break her heart afterwards... (I'm going off again, sorry...)

We are here to help you, sweet Maya... When you need us, you know where to find us...

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maya-v
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posted July 07, 2005 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks TP, steelrose ... all you guys are so amazing and I feel so blessed by your love and concern

BlueTopaz, thanks for explaining that ... I thought as much, but you confirmed it.

Pix, as always your words bring me so much peace and strength

And no, I am not the least bit disturbed by Pid's words. She is being true to her wise, honest self and more often that not her sane, sharp eyes have pointed out directions my bungling fish moon misses. Her words always have a lot of truth in them and like a true friend, she doesnt always say what I want to hear, but what I need to ... like a lot of you guys do.

I am now at a crossroads. The angel I talk abt (most of you know him) - he was going through one of his aquarian phases of questioning and reflection ... I am so happy he is finally taking time for himself, away from assuaging my constant doubts and insecurities and putting up with my chaos. He needs me, perhaps loves me too, but needs to find something inside himself that is all his own. And it hurts me so much to not have him where I need him ... in my arms and my dreams, but I have to be a little selfless (for once) and give him more time without clouding his judgement, to do what is necessary for him.

Thanks again, all you guys, for all your love and concern, I am truly blessed to have such awesome people for friends.

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maya-v
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posted July 07, 2005 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
Time

I spend all my time hoping,
That you're going to find another way
And yer not gonna shut me up
Cuz I've got too much to say.
If you live to be happy all the time
Then you overlook what's there.
And I wish I had more time
Cuz life's too short not to care.
Wasting away on detachment
You think it doesn't apply.
But only when you apply yourself
Will you be able to see the lies.
Everybody will tell you something
And who knows who makes sense
But to actually admit
You don't know xxxx
Takes an awful lot of strength
Keep your life focused
And always do what's right....
And cherish every minute God gives you
Don't go without a fight.

Nick Traina

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Aen
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posted July 07, 2005 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Aen     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Maya

Lots of light to you.


There some lyrics that have given me comfort. May be for you too..

Day is done
Nick Drake

When the day is done
Down to earth then sinks the sun
Along with everything that was lost and won
When the day is done.

When the day is done
Hope so much your race will be all run
Then you find you jumped the gun
Have to go back where you began
When the day is done.

When the night is cold
Some get by but some get old
Just to show life's not made of gold
When the night is cold.

When the bird has flown
Got no-one to call your own
Got no place to call your home
When the bird has flown.

When the game's been fought
You speed the ball across the court
Lost much sooner than you would have thought
Now the game's been fought.

When the party's through
Seems so very sad for you
Didn't do the things you meant to do
Now there's no time to start anew
Now the party's through.

When the day is done
Down to earth then sinks the sun
Along with everything that was lost and won
When the day is done.

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pidaua
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posted July 07, 2005 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for pidaua     Edit/Delete Message
Maya...no no.. I wasn't meaning "You're created Drama" I am talking collectively.. it seems that drama is happening everywhere.

I am not sure what is going on with your relationship as your posts seem somewhat cryptic. Remember, I am a blunt Sag with Merc in Capricorn. When I start to see fluff..I usually bypass it and move on. My mind just filters out the facts.

I won't always read lyrics nor try to read anything into them, they have to be self-explanatory. LOL... sometimes I am too practical for my own good.

I just didn't want to jump to any conclusions that things aren't right with you and HSC or think this has to do with the Archer if it doesn't. See, I am not able to access my AOL from work nor do I get to read through and find past posts (although I am SUPER-grateful for our new ability to search again). I rely on people inserting links to previous posts for background on the matter at hand....

Sooooo...what's up little lady

Ahhhhh haaa....now I am caught up...LOL...

I am so happy that this is one of the few sites NOT blocked out from my employer LOL...


Relationships / Friendships that can make it through those difficult times can make it through anything.

Hang in there...and ask yourself this 'Why am I having doubts? Am I feeling insecure because of past issues?" When you finally let go - that is when you finally have peace.

Lots of Love to you!!!

~Pidaua

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maya-v
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posted July 09, 2005 01:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
ALANIS MORISSETTE LYRICS

"You Owe Me Nothing In Return"

I'll give you countless amounts of outright acceptance if you want it
I will give you encouragement to choose the path that you want if you need it
You can speak of anger and doubts your fears and freak outs and I'll hold it
You can share your so-called shame filled accounts of times in your life and I won't judge it
(and there are no strings attached to it)

You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have
I give you thanks for receiving it's my privilege
And you owe me nothing in return

You can ask for space for yourself and only yourself and I'll grant it
You can ask for freedom as well or time to travel and you'll have it
You can ask to live by yourself or love someone else and I'll support it
You can ask for anything you want anything at all and I'll understand it
(and there are no strings attached to it)

You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have
I give you thanks for receiving it's my privilege
And you owe me nothing in return

I bet you're wondering when the next payback shoe will eventually drop
I bet you're wondering when my conditional police will force you to cough up
I bet wonder how far you have now danced you way back into debt
This is the only kind of love as I understand it that there really is

You can express your deepest of truths even if it means I'll lose you and I'll hear it
You can fall into the abyss on your way to your bliss I'll empathize with
You can say that you have to skip town to chase your passion I'll hear it
You can even hit rock bottom have a mid-life crisis and I'll hold it
(and there are no strings attached)

You owe me nothing for giving the love that I give
You owe me nothing for caring the way that I have
I give you thanks for receiving it's my privilege
And you owe me nothing in return

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posted July 09, 2005 01:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tranquil Poet     Edit/Delete Message
I love Alanis


She's a gemini with cancer rising like me

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maya-v
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posted July 09, 2005 03:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
"You Learn"

I recommend getting your heart trampled on to anyone
I recommend walking around naked in your living room
Swallow it down (what a jagged little pill)
It feels so good (swimming in your stomach)
Wait until the dust settles

You live you learn
You love you learn
You cry you learn
You lose you learn
You bleed you learn
You scream you learn

I recommend biting off more then you can chew to anyone
I certainly do
I recommend sticking your foot in your mouth at any time
Feel free
Throw it down (the caution blocks you from the wind)
Hold it up (to the rays)
You wait and see when the smoke clears

You live you learn
You love you learn
You cry you learn
You lose you learn
You bleed you learn
You scream you learn

Wear it out (the way a three-year-old would do)
Melt it down (you're gonna have to eventually anyway)
The fire trucks are coming up around the bend

You live you learn
You love you learn
You cry you learn
You lose you learn
You bleed you learn
You scream you learn

You grieve you learn
You choke you learn
You laugh you learn
You choose you learn
You pray you learn
You ask you learn
You live you learn


F*k that - Im not letting anything or anyone bring me down! His decisions dont have to necessarily affect MY universe right Jennifer?

Weird, of all the people, you're the one I was thinking of the most while posting these ... I know you're both geminis and I was calling on my own mercuiral powers (Jup in Gem and Virgo Rising) ... I need the clear headed logic and whenever im confused, I have an Alanis fest ... like I am right now.

Thanks for showing up ... its true what they say ... Geminis do have loads of intuition.

(I read what youw rote in the images thread - maybe all is not over yet and it might come to pass - fingers crossed!)

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maya-v
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posted July 09, 2005 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for maya-v     Edit/Delete Message
ALANIS MORISSETTE LYRICS

"All I Really Want"

Do I stress you out
My sweater is on backwards and inside out
And you say how appropriate
I don't want to dissect everything today
I don't mean to pick you apart you see
But I can't help it
There I go jumping before the gunshot has gone off
Slap me with a splintered ruler
And it would knock me to the floor if I wasn't there already
If only I could hunt the hunter

And all I really want is some patience
A way to calm the angry voice
And all I really want is deliverance
Do I wear you out
You must wonder why I'm so relentless and all strung out
I'm consumed by the chill of solitary
I'm like Estella
I like to reel it in and then spit it out
I'm frustrated by your apathy
And I am frightened by the corrupted ways of this land
If only I could meet the Maker

And I am fascinated by the spiritual man
I am humbled by his humble nature
What I wouldn't give to find a soulmate
Someone else to catch this drift
And what I wouldn't give to meet a kindred
Enough about me, let's talk about you for a minute
Enough about you, let's talk about life for a while
The conflicts, the craziness and the sound of pretenses
Falling all around...all around
Why are you so petrified of silence
Here can you handle this?

Did you think about your bills, your ex, your deadlines
Or when you think you're gonna die
Or did you long for the next distraction
And all I need know is intellectual intercourse
A soul to dig the hole much deeper
And I have no concept of time other than it is flying
If only I could kill the killer

All I really want is some peace man
a place to find a common ground
And all I really want is a wavelength
All I really want is some comfort
A way to get my hands untied
And all I really want is some justice...

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posted July 09, 2005 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
love this song

Carry On ~ Crosby Stills Nash Young

One morning I woke up and I knew
You were really gone
A new day, a new way, and new
eyes to see the dawn
Go your way, I'll go mine and
Carry on

The sky is clearing and the night
Has gone out
The sun, he come, the world
is all full of light
Rejoice, rejoice, we have no choice but
To carry on

The fortunes of fables are able
To sing the song
Now witness the quickness with which
We get along
To sing the blues you've got to live the tunes and
Carry on

Carry on
Love is coming
Love is coming to us all

Where are you going now my love?
Where will you be tomorrow?
Will you bring me happiness?
Will you bring me sorrow?
Oh, the questions of a thousand dreams
What you do and what you see
Lover can you talk to me?

Girl when I was on my own
Chasing you down
What was it made you run?
Trying your best just to get around.
The questions of a thousand dreams
What you do and what you see
Lover can you talk to me?

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MoonDuchess88
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posted July 10, 2005 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MoonDuchess88     Edit/Delete Message
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posted July 10, 2005 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
This was an excellent article.
Please read right to the very end!
http://www.throughnightsfire.com/Misconceptionofsoulmate.html

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posted July 10, 2005 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for 26taurus     Edit/Delete Message
That article was right on. Thanks for the link pix.

quote:
When you are able to look into another’s eyes and express love openly and freely, you have found a love that will be healing, empowering, and delightfully fun. As you grow, you may find that a relationship no longer fulfills your needs…perhaps your contract has been fulfilled and it is time to move on.
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Trust in the universe and look for the positive in any painful situation…another soul mate would love to spend time with you!

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posted July 10, 2005 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Philbird     Edit/Delete Message
I'm sittin' on the back porch watching the bugs attack the light...
Not much of a poet, but I take myself there when my libra man needs of all things, time!

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sthenri
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posted July 10, 2005 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sthenri     Edit/Delete Message
Maya, how have you been!
I wanted to tell you I met a nice Aquarius/Venus in Pisces and I have been peaceful lately. I hope you are having a good summer.

Natasha

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