posted August 13, 2005 03:06 PM         

I've had several psychic readings of various sorts whilst being with my partner and almost all of them have stressed very strongly that we are soul mates or twin souls, and that we're joined/meant to be together.

I felt this very strongly at the beginning of our relationship and still do feel deeply connected with him, but due to living day to day with his Aqua detachment and to some problems we've had recently, it makes you wonder.

I thought it would be interesting therefore to get an astrological interpretation of our charts to see whether the planets agree with the readings in any way. I'm not quite competant enough as yet with chart reading (particularly the degrees) to assess things myself so any help would be gratefully received.

Many thanks and love to all,
Sarah xx

Him

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Aquarius 01°57'30 11 direct
Moon Aquarius 10°28'16 11 direct
Mercury Capricorn 22°21'16 10 direct
Venus Aquarius 08°19'47 11 retrograde
Mars Aquarius 23°47'38 12 direct
Jupiter Gemini 22°11'34 03 retrograde
Saturn Pisces 14°21'44 12 direct
Uranus Virgo 19°16'22 06 retrograde
Neptune Scorpio 21°54'30 07 direct
Pluto Virgo 18°11'49 06 retrograde
True Node Gemini 02°55'05 02 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Aries 20°58'35
2nd House Gemini 00°05'25
3rd House Gemini 20°42'37
Imum Coeli Cancer 07°36'01
5th House Cancer 26°00'10
6th House Leo 23°07'53
Descendant Libra 20°58'35
8th House Sagittarius 00°05'25
9th House Sagittarius 20°42'37
Medium Coeli Capricorn 07°36'01
11th House Capricorn 26°00'10
12th House Aquarius 23°07'53

Me

Planetary positions
planet sign degree house motion
Sun Libra 11°33'36 04 direct
Moon Capricorn 17°04'28 06 direct
Mercury Scorpio 02°56'06 04/5 direct
Mercury is technically near the end of house 4 and is interpreted in house 5.
Venus Scorpio 24°59'57 05 direct
Mars Taurus 07°37'09 11 retrograde
Jupiter Aquarius 02°21'25 07 direct
Saturn Cancer 04°36'51 12 direct
Uranus Libra 22°40'51 04 direct
Neptune Sagittarius 05°18'32 05 direct
Pluto Libra 04°34'06 04 direct
True Node Capricorn 02°19'47 06 retrograde

House positions (Placidus)
Ascendant Cancer 23°00'30
2nd House Leo 09°01'44
3rd House Leo 28°32'46
Imum Coeli Virgo 25°12'59
5th House Scorpio 03°11'15
6th House Sagittarius 17°43'19
Descendant Capricorn 23°00'30
8th House Aquarius 09°01'44
9th House Aquarius 28°32'46
Medium Coeli Pisces 25°12'59
11th House Taurus 03°11'15
12th House Gemini 17°43'19

For those who know about MAGI astrology, his Chiron is in Pisces 19°16’39" in the 12th house, and mine is Aries 18°56’29" Retrograde in the 10th house.

posted August 14, 2005 12:41 AM         

I could find a report for you if the birth info was given, but I'm not an astrologer and would feel uncomfortable commenting much more beyond my first couple lines above. Sorry about that.

Good luck in your quest.

posted August 14, 2005 05:10 AM         

Yep a whole lot of Aqua in ya face!

His birth details are 22 Jan 1966 10.30am Lincoln UK.

Thanks so much for offering to help - any thoughts are welcomed and appreciated.

posted August 14, 2005 07:01 AM         

I just noticed your Venus in Scorp and his in Aqua, I feel even if you are meant to be together it will be hard in the passion department. Its like me with my SCorp sun and my ex Aqua Sun, very challenging, and now my Taurus Moon and my mans Aqua moon, difficult, as you well know!!!

I feel you are having thoughts of late about the challenges this bond will bring, but it doesnt mean you have to break up with him. I do however feel it is SO important to find a way to channel your passions that arent fulfilled with that Aqua energy.

Now in the past I would fill this gap by errrr.......other men!! These days I tend to play music, sing, dance and visit FEMALE friends LOL.....but I would be a huge fat liar if I didnt say I didnt "glance" and feel tempted by males with a more passionate disposition, eg Scorps, Aries etc!!! But of course I am now old and wise enough to realise that after a time, these men would bring other challenges!!!

Anyway girl, you know you can always come here and compare "notes" . To be honest one of the things I would put on the top of my pet hates is cold and detached people and I end up loving a Virgo Sun with Aqua Moon - oh dear!!!

Love to you - here if you need to talk

posted August 16, 2005 04:41 PM         

Hows you hon? How's life in the land of Virgo Sun/Aqua Moon?? Hope things are starting to warm up a little and that you feel more hopeful about the situation.

Thank you so much for your support Sue - you are truly such a giving soul and always know just what to say to place a much needed pair of virtual arms round a fellow soul on the path Yep the old Venus signs are a bit of a challenge aren't they? I'm starting to understand it though and to accept it. Such a wonderful suggestion of yours to 'channel' my passion into creative projects and friends. I totally understand your need to find a more 'warm' response in the form of a passionate man but funnily enough I just can't even 'see' any other men! To me they seem to have ceased to exist! He totally fulfills me in every other way and whilst in the past and with another man like this I would just be tempted to say "Oh well, sod ya then!" I can't seem to find it in me to give up... yet!!!

Just feels too big and important to walk away from somehow and can't imagine being without him - I suppose that's why I put this post up, because it feels so very much like he's the other half of me and vice versa that to walk away would be almost like cutting off a limb. Dunno whether I'm right or not but that's the sensation and the feeling of the relationship from my point of view. Haven't a clue whether he feels like that about me but I get glimpses sometimes. Gave me a lovely, and incredibly warm welcome... for an Aqua anyway! So he must feel something for me?

posted August 17, 2005 10:55 AM         

your man IS lucky isnt he - he certainly struck gold with you

posted April 01, 2006 02:10 PM         

Was reading Jan Spiller's "Astrology for the Soul" about North Nodes. This is from the Scorpio NN chapter, and your two NN's are Cappy and Gem, but I thought I'd put it up anyway:

quote:

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A soul mate relationship is really a combining—on an energetic level—with someone with whom they have the right "chemistry"; who gives them a sense of excitement. As they empower their partner, the partner responds by validating and taking care of them. The mutual energy revitalizes those parts of the Scorpio North Node person that became stagnant during past incarnations.
Soul mate relationships are not limited to sexual relationships. If two people share a common goal—such as writing a book, running a restaurant, starting a business—it can be a soul mate relationship. Both people become one on an energetic or psychic level to more powerfully produce their project. Each person has to be willing to let go of personal issues to allow both partners' energies to integrate. These folks need to be willing to understand the other person, what he or she is offering, and what his or her resources are in order to combine and achieve maximum mutual gain. That is where they shine!

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posted April 05, 2006 12:03 AM         

Here's an article I just saw today browsing, probably doesn't do much to answer your question, but I liked her writing.....

quote:

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ABOUT SOUL MATES

As I glanced through the list of questions for this week's Ask an Astrologer column I came across so many that were asking "when am I going to meet my soul mate/man/woman of my dreams". I guess relationship questions are my bread and butter, after all it is a very important subject in our lives and even this jaded old astrologer wouldn't mind finding someone nice to play with.

Instead of bursting the bubble of just one reader by telling them they will never meet and make the best use of their soul mate if they don't know what relating is all about, I decided to make a sandwich and ponder on the subject. The sandwich (which was delicious) inspired me to ask the dictionary. Here is what my Concise Macquarie Dictionary (CMD) had to say on the subject of soul mates. "one of two or more persons who share common interests, temperaments and aspirations". Sounds simple enough so why do people have so much difficulty in acquiring such a mate or mates (the CMD seems to approve of threesomes which surprised me because it is such a conservative tome).

The common interest thing is easy to handle, all you have to do is pick the thing you are most interested in and join a club. If you both like hiking or photography then you can spend hours of pure bliss together for ever and ever. That is if both of you meet each others criteria in looks, height, weight, age, social/financial status. Things go well until you realise that your soul mate thinks a brisk walk is a hike up Kilimanjaro while you prefer a quiet stroll around the botanic gardens. After a while secondary interests such as taste in music or movies begin chip away at the pure bliss for ever and ever thing too. Maybe, just maybe there is more to this "common interest" thing than meets the eye.

Ok, so let's move on to temperaments. The CMD defines temperament as " the individual peculiarity of physical organisation by which the manner of thinking, feeling and acting is permanently affected." Well we won't worry about the technicalities, all you have to do is define your temperament and go look for someone similar. So, if you are a perfectionist who is particular and often critical when something or someone doesn't meet your standards then all you have to do is go find a soul mate who is the same. I just hope that you both meet with each other's approval otherwise this temperament thing is going to cause problems too. Maybe you are not like this, you could be quite accommodating, liking to do things for other people, in which case you are probably going to enter into a competition with a soul mate to see who can sacrifice the most for the other.

Let's try aspirations, surely we can find someone with the same aspirations. The friendly CMD (dictionaries seem like boring little books, not much of a plot but you can learn a lot from them) says an aspiration is a "lofty or ambitious desire". You might aspire to join Greenpeace and save the world in which case there will be little time for a soul mate. It is more likely you just aspire to find financial security, happiness and contentment in life. This takes us back to the beginning where we started to look for your soul mate so that you could achieve happiness and contentment yada, yada, yada...

I know I haven't brought you any closer to solving your quest for a soul mate. Dissecting the words by looking up dictionary definitions kind of takes the romance away from it too. Romance is what we seek in our soul mate but the end result of our quest is usually another hyphenated word I found next to soul mate in the CMD - soul-destroying.

So what is the answer? You'll never guess - the dictionary had the answer to that too - soul searching "the act or process of close and penetrating analysis of oneself, to determine ones motives and sentiments". You have probably never considered that the path to your dreams can be through the harshness of reality. Only when you have destroyed the myth of your perfect mate, and smashed your lofty aspirations can you seek something that is not only attainable but something that may just bring lasting happiness and contentment. When we use terms like soul mate and man/woman of our dreams what do we really mean? What do we really want? What is it we expect? Don't just sit there; make some lists and then you may begin to see that the things you seek are simply words and concepts that may not exist in reality.

While you are soul-searching consider this: If you want a friend, first you have to be one. So maybe if you want a soul mate maybe you have to be one of those too. Can you match up to someone else's criteria of a soul mate? This is a bit scary isn't it? But it must be because if two people are to be soul mates then each must live up to the expectations of the other.

Maybe I have burst your bubble, wiped your dreams and eliminated all thoughts of romance and I cannot make amends for this. It is not that I am a cruel and heartless astrologer because I truly do want everyone to be happy. I do not believe it is possible to reach happiness if one is always chasing rainbows. I see so many people living unfulfilled lives because they seek something that does not exist. If they look past the fantasy and get real they may just find some satisfaction that will suit their purposes.

The concept of a perfect relationship rests not with a soul mate, it is not out there with someone else, it lies within you. If you search your soul long enough to become a prospective soul mate to another then who knows what the universe will deliver. There is magic even in reality.

You may look at others and assume they have found their soul mate and have the perfect relationship. What you see may also be an illusion, and if you could be a fly on the wall you may look beneath the veneer of perfection and see discord you never realised existed. Most people struggle in relationships because it is difficult to blend the complexities of two people and create perfect harmony all the time.

So don't ask me when you are going to meet your soul mate. Ask me what you need to know about yourself in order to find inner happiness and contentment. If we are happy inside we attract happiness outside. I can tell you your motivations within relationships. I can tell you what has influenced your perceptions. I can tell you what adjustments need to be made and I can suggest possible solutions but I am all out of soul mates this week.

Now don't start with the knights in shining armour/damsels in distress or I will scream.

Hazel Leung - 14 July 2000

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posted April 05, 2006 01:11 AM         

Very Happy For You.

Just take it as it comes...
Try not to worry or think ahead too much.
Whatever is meant to be will be,
and you will (ultimately) be better off for it, I swear.
You have an enormous amount of love to give,
just be sure you get as much in return.
YOU'RE WORTH IT.

Okay...

"By the way... what exactly does it mean when you have Venus Aquarius 08°19'47 11 retrograde?? Could anyone explain this to a lay person please?"

When Venus is Retrograde, the sense of beauty and values must be expressed through relationships. The values are different from most people's. Many things which others value and find beautiful, he could care less for, but he will value love and relationships more than most (at least, his Venus will). He has interesting ideas about the evolution of values in society. He may be anti-social, although this is unlikely when Venus is in the 11th.

Venus in Aqua and the 11th both incline to eccentricity,
as well as an ability to mix well in groups,
and to identify with and understand others,
but a difficulty achieving intimacy.

Neptune in the 7th, and Scorpio on the 8th
(give or take a minute) will do much to counter this.

He must (and will) be friends with his lover.
He cares about humanity and the future.
He may be a tad idealistic.
With very little Earth in the chart,
and with Saturn in the 12th,
and Mars in the 12th square Neptune,
idealism is likely to be pronounced.
But these things were (probably) largely outgrown
by the time he reached his mid-thirties.
Unless he's been living with the folks,
or jumping from woman to woman,
getting them to take care of him,
he's probably learned to cope with reality by now.
Merc in Cap helps, too.

I would watch the 12th house mars in aqua, though.
Mars is strong, as the asc ruler,...
Aqua represses Mars' ego energies,
and they tend to explode at times...
Planets in the 12th are likewise hidden/repressed.
Aquarians already have a hidden authoritarian side.

Although he could be a real pussycat.
That trine to Jupiter is a BIG help.
As for the square to Neptune in the 7th...
That could pose some problems.
The 7th is the house of significant partnerships (marriage, etc.),
and there is a tendency to idealize (Neptune) this area of life.
It is in conflict (square) with his
self-assertive energies.
When his self does re-surface (from the submerged 12th house)
there could be some shocks for both of you.

The good news is, all these factors contribute water (sensitivity, emotion) to the chart,
which is lacking elsewhere.

And, again, he may have enough self-knowledge by now to make the difficulties somewhat obsolete.

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Have you looked at your Composite Chart?
If not, go to Free Horoscopes, scroll down to astroclick partner.
You'll get a chart that is a blend of both of you,
and it will show you the major dynamics in the relationship.
You can click on the planets and read about them.
You can also do this with your individual charts.
Note that aspects listed are up to 10° from exact,
but only aspect up to 5° are generally significant.

posted April 06, 2006 05:19 PM         

Zala hon thank you so much for going to the trouble to find those articles for me! They are so interesting and the part about "The concept of a perfect relationship rests not with a soul mate, it is not out there with someone else, it lies within you. If you search your soul long enough to become a prospective soul mate to another then who knows what the universe will deliver. There is magic even in reality." really resonated with me. Everything comes from within; and I know that I often focus too much on jumping through imaginary hoops labouring under the false impression that that's what I have to do in order to make something work. What I really should do is trust the process of life more, and trust that whatever I need or whatever he needs comes from within each of us. Thank you sweet Zala, you are truly a God/dess send How are you anyway hon?

posted April 06, 2006 05:49 PM         

HSC thank you for such beautiful words! How lovely of you and how right you are when you say "Whatever is meant to be" - I try to live like that as much as possible now. I had something of an epiphany last year in the midst of a rather severe bout of self-doubt/relationship problems; I'd moved from London where I lived and where all my friends were, to be with my Aqua man in Lincoln, and let's just say that the sheen sort of went from the relationship once I had, (as it so often does unless we remember to notice what matters instead of the superficial things.)

It left me feeling very insecure and alone and I remember sitting on a park bench one lunchtime watching the world go by and trying not to obsess about my situation, when all of a sudden, 'Her upstairs' as I call her (or the Angel of my Higher Self as Linda would say,) spoke very loudly and clearly. I heard the words, "Even if this doesn't work out, you are in exactly the right place to take the next step on your path." Now I'm not usually one to hear voices on park benches but that one really got through! And as a consequence, I calmed down and the situation eased and improved tenfold.

Thank you so very much for the analysis you did on my Aqua man! It's him to a tee and it's absolutely true that he was extremely idealistic in his past but has now toned it down somewhat. Not that I think it's a bad thing to be idealistic but to be obsessed by anything is not healthy so I'm glad he's managed to find peace with his opinions.

He is indeed a pussycat and I've never seen him loose his temper once, however I sense that if he did, it wouldn't be pretty. I have 3 Cardinal signs in Sun, Asc and Moon placements so I'm not usually wary of conflict or of asserting my views however something about him makes me feel that I wouldn't be so cavalier about his temper if it ever emerged.

posted April 06, 2006 05:49 PM         

He's currently delving into Gnosticism (as just one of his many Aquarian interests) but as always, he has the good sense to not be swept away by anything and he analyses it intensely before even so much as dipping his toe in the water. He's a very spiritual person but he operates it in a very scientific way, never allowing himself to come down totally on one side or the other of the eternal fence that he sits on, in his quest for answers. That aspect of his character often perturbs me and sometimes causes me to get irritated with him - I have such an 'all or nothing' nature it would seem (a passionate Merc and Venus in Scorpio to thank for that I think) and I sometimes become frustrated with him for not taking the plunge and going with his gut instinct on things he 'knows' within himself to be true.

We run a paranormal research group, and there is a constant conflict of approach between the eternal question mark he applies to any 'evidence' we gather and my 'go with my gut' belief in the eternal existence of the soul. But we don't come to blows or even so much as raised voices over it; well he doesn't anyway - I'm slightly less well behaved! The most he'll raise is an Aquarian eyebrow and then he goes off on another tangent, leaving me stamping my passionate little feet until he fires my imagination and diffuses the situation with his latest amazing theory; and/or by catching me off guard and telling me how much he loves me whilst smiling at my frown lines and wrinkled brow in that wryly amused way of his... he knows exactly how to handle me!