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sue g
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posted September 25, 2005 04:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I sat in a cafe yesterday which is a converted church.....I was with my friend who is an astrologer/spiritual healer.........the atmosphere was amazing....dark with just candles flickering.....

She always seems to have this skill of answering things I have been pondering, even without me asking......she is amazin. Like me she has been to heaven and hell and back a few times!!

So we starts talking about the yearning, and the complications of relationships and how we talk of soul mates etc....

She read this book by Sylvia Browne who explains that when the physical body dies and we pass over to the other place, it is there that we meet up with our family and that is when the bliss of perfect union occurs....

Then when we reincarnate to the physcial body and meet up with these familiar souls, tis then the challenges can start. So in effect....we are born yearning......but of course the problem is, those all too familiar souls are now in physical bodies, and some may not recognise the other/s.

This blew me away, a feeling I'd had for a long time, which I couldnt explain.....always looking for the perfect family......and wondering why things, at times, didnt feel right

When we got outside the rain was lashing down..........but we didnt mind cos we are both water signs......and I had just spent a couple of hours with a member of my soul family - pure heaven !!!

Love to all

Sue

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sue g
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posted September 25, 2005 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
If anyone is interested, the lady I speak of has a website the address is www.katearbon.com

To my mind, she is one of the best spiritual guides/healers/astrologers I have met......

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 25, 2005 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue

I'm very glad you posted this address, I would love to contact her if she does not mind.I wrote a post a while back called "coincidences need help". I think it was in the soul union forum. I know my soul group, I have been to a claivoyant about a month ago. She told me that it is rare that a soul group incarnate in close proximity like mine has. I have had a connection with this group since my childhood.

Soul Mates??? I have been involved with three of them and am now recycling the 1st one again!!!! We all yearn for a soul mate but my experience with them has been challenging to say the least. I now no longer want a soul mate, I would just like a nice calm relationship without the challenges. I don't think we realise how hard soul mate relationships can be. And when the relationship ends its like having your heart ripped out and takes a long time to get over them. I just want a nice quiet life.

Love and Light

Cathy

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sue g
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posted September 25, 2005 06:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Aahh thanks Cathy......I loved you wise words

By all means contact Kate,,,,,she has just started again to practise after a break......and she needs the business......dont tell her I told you, but she is a single parent and needs to earn a living...

I have not met many that would affect me as profoundly as she does, and she has become one of my best friends....lucky me.....I love her !!!

Good luck

Sue xxx

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 25, 2005 06:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
I have just looked back on some of the other threads about soul mates. One coment was that the depth of feeling can scare someone away. This is apparently what happened to my first soul mate. He told me recently that he loved me so much it scared him, thats why he left. He married someone else, it did not work out so for the last six years he has been trying to rekindle what we had. I am seeing him now but maybe it's karma but I just don't feel the same way anymore. I am aware of a deep conection but could never be in a long term relationship with him again. Maybe the lesson was to look after a relationship otherwise it dies.

Love and Light

Cathy

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 25, 2005 06:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Sue you must be on line. I will contact her in the next couple of weeks. I NEED to know what lesson I am not getting. My last soul mate and I have thought more than once that he may be my twin, are enemies at the moment. If I could just figure out the karma. That claivoyant also told me that because I was the one with the awareness of the group I was probably their teacher in this life. I'd like to send them to another school well away from me. It's very strange that you can feel such love and such hatred all in the same day towards someone. This last one is proving to be difficult to forget. He is with someone else at the moment, claivoyant said that he will leave her soon and he will be back. I don't think I could go through it again so hopefully your freind can shed some light onto the karma and I can avoid it altogether??? It's a nice wish

Love and light

Cathy

* When the heart weeps for what it has lost, the soul laughs for what it has found*

Sufi aphorism

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sue g
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posted September 25, 2005 06:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
I am sure she will help you Cathy, she uses so many skills to guide people.......ask her about astro oracle......I got it done and its wonderful.....enjoy !!!

Love

Sue xx

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iAmThat
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posted September 25, 2005 04:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cathy,
Those were wise words.

Sue,
I am not sure what you are going thru. Hope you will come out of it.


Cathy ,
BTW...I have a theory do you think your first has come back because you had him in your memories.

Sorry for the intrusion. Let me ask you why I say that. I never stopped remembering abt the first soul mate. After three years, I heard the news that the 1st is planning to move from 150 miles away to less than 8 miles away where I am. Since then I stopped thinking of first. Stopped even fantasising about the wonderful moments we shared. Although I do wish that it should rekindle, but not in this life time. Its not good for both of us.

Thought I would share. The idea is what we wish, we can make it come true. The universe works very very mysteriously.

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 26, 2005 01:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
Hi IamThat

You are not intruding.

The first soul mate, well I suppose he was my first real love (and I had been married before). It took a long time to get over him but I did. He married and I really moved on. If I had to say which one I had cared for the most it would be number 3 (though very hard to pick). I no longer want a relationship with number 1 and have not for years. I hardly ever thought about him, he just turned up on my doorstep when I was with number 2 (years later). He also turned up on my doorstep when I was with number 3 (it is so intertwined with all of them). He wants a relationship, I don't. I can see what you are saying about attracting into my life the things I think about but I don't think this is the case. I really feel that the Karma is done with him for me anyway because I feel so neutral towards him. The Karma is not done with number three though. I just have a feeling that I will always be conected to this group. I tried to move 11 hours away and was not able to go. And even if I did move to the other side of the world I know that there will be conections back to them. I really feel they are tied up with my destiny, and me with theirs. There has to be a reason that we all landed in the same area so to speak.

Anyway I really appreciate your input

Love and Light

Cathy

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 26, 2005 01:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
IAT

One other thing , you said that you would like to rekindle with the first but it would be bad for both of you. You obviously still care. Isn't it a pity that when you love someone it could just work out. After all I think we all just want to be loved and love someone. What happens???

We have to learn lessons I suppose. I think I have learned enough this life (hope so)

Love and Light

Cathy

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DragonflyAries
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posted September 26, 2005 03:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DragonflyAries     Edit/Delete Message
Quote: "One coment was that the depth of feeling can scare someone away. This is apparently what happened to my first soul mate. He told me recently that he loved me so much it scared him, thats why he left."

I've had this happen before... maybe it's that the feeling strikes so powerfully and so suddenly that men are more likely to run from it. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that men don't have the capacity to feel deeply. They most certainly do. But it seems as tho men more often that women have a problem with things they can't "rationalize" or force to "make sense". There is such a thing as love at first sight, as anyone who's experienced it can attest to... It's not some chemical reaction of lust, tho that can be a part of it... It's a very real sort of "knowing"... You sense things about that person... and you can get a sense of where the road will lead you. Soul mate relationships /are/ hard. We've been misled by too many fairy tales... but soul mate relationships can also be every bit as rewarding as those fairy tales if we're willing to do the work that's required of us. Some people are just "worth it" to us... You may come across a soul mate and decide you're not ready to deal with that particular set of issues that relationship will bring. But then you may meet one that you'll go through hell and back for and that's the one you end up choosing this lifetime. And maybe none of this is on any conscious level, maybe it's all instinctual. But I really think that's the way it goes... I could be way off but it feels right to me.

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sue g
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posted September 26, 2005 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hi IAT

The thing I am going thro is wonderful, it is timely, I am meeting my soul family.....even people here......it is something I want to "stay in", something I have been looking for all my life.....a feelling of returning, of recognising! To coin a phrase, "being with like minded" and yet it is more than that!

I must say your words came thro with a profound feeling of sincerity, from the heart.....thankyou for that....... I feel you care !!

Love to you


Sue G xxx

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 26, 2005 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Sue

I am so glad your soul group is like minded. Mine does not have a spirtual cell in all their bodies. You are very lucky. Enjoy your time.

Dragonfly

Your comments are very interesting. I have been to hell and back with the three of my soul mates.Romantic love is an interesting phenomena. I have read some psychological research about romantic love. No one really knows why we fall in love. Its usually put down to resolving childhood issues. You said you might choose the one you go to hell and back for. The psychological literature talks about healthy relationships....but I wonder what really is a healthy relationship. Is it the one that you go to hell and back for or is it the one that is easy and you don't really feel any passion for? How much hell do you go through before you call it a day? The psychological literature is interesting but I wonder what real people do?? I know that I grew as a person very rapidly with each of my "soul mates". I would not be the person that I am today without those experiences, and I beleive I am a better person because of them.

Love and light

Cathy

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted September 26, 2005 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
""Soul Mates??? I have been involved with three of them and am now recycling the 1st one again!!!! We all yearn for a soul mate but my experience with them has been challenging to say the least. I now no longer want a soul mate, I would just like a nice calm relationship without the challenges. I don't think we realise how hard soul mate relationships can be. And when the relationship ends its like having your heart ripped out and takes a long time to get over them. I just want a nice quiet life."""

This remark,,, this remark is a good point I wish more peaple would consider.. The more down side to haveing relationships with "soul mates"... Alot of peaple who are looking forward to, or in a relationship with one of their many soul mates,,, dont consider this enough...

Soul mate unions, and the pottency of the passions, and experience shared have the higher price of heavyer pains when things dont go rite,, or as said above,, just all the more complicated kinda relationship too keep alive.

Perhaps we arent supposed to hold on as tightly as our hearts seem to demand us too when with these closer souls... ?

Maybe the majority of our relationships with soul mates are only supposed to be for a time , and then move on ?


Or maybe we are just suuposed to deal with all the rediculous BS that seems to be mroe frequent in a closer soul union , and wait it out, as we stick with our decision to stay together ???

Well those would be the choices,,, wich one is the rite choice,,, I dont know,,, just pondering again my self,,, after 2 years of no solid answer to this question.

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posted September 26, 2005 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message
Magus,
I agree that soulmate relationships can be very difficult. And the lure of a nice, comfortable relationship is powerful at times.
But- the nice comfortable relation, too, may end. And then you're left with- what? A few wasted months, years... maybe a lifetime gone down the drain, spend on easy days, simple feelings, no great heights or depths.
I don't know..
I'd take the greatest abyss of loneliness and heartache over that any day.

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MAGUS of MUSIC
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posted September 26, 2005 07:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MAGUS of MUSIC     Edit/Delete Message
I honestly have no clue wich I want anymore.

Cant seem to make up my mind about what I want, or expect from a futer relationship nowadays.

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whiterabbit
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posted September 26, 2005 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for whiterabbit     Edit/Delete Message
*sigh*
I basically feel the same way. But, it's easy to be optimistic for other people.

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iAmThat
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posted September 26, 2005 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Cathy,

Hi. I agree 100 percent with the 1st reply post.

Also you said ">>>You obviously still care. Isn't it a pity that when you love someone it could just work out."

Absolutely. Just to add why it won't work in my case. This 1st has built so many other lives around such as partner, kid...etc...

One pain is nothing compared to the suffering of many. I am not sure if I must also use the word sacrifise. Well let me. Sacrifise is the sister of love. I used to listen to Elton John's "Sacrifise" often when I was past the 1st

You are also so right about nutralising the Karma . Therefore I make sure that none of my relationships ends bitter


Peace..

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sue g
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posted September 27, 2005 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
if it is any comfort friends, my lovelife was a disaster until I got into my 30s......

Some find love later in life......

Dont lose heart............

Love to all


Sue G xxx

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 27, 2005 08:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all

I have said on another thread that I saw a clairvoyant when I was in my 20's. She told me that there would be a change in energy that would allow soul mates to be together. She is one of the best in the world. I am trying to get an appoinment with her but she is very hard to see. I will ask her if this energy has changed yet with the new planets etc or even if it will happen in our lifetimes. She said that soul mate relationships will be maximum growth with minimum conflict. Wouldn't that be great. I will let everone know if I ever get to see her.

Sue, I am 43 and my love life is still not settled, but then I am getting comfortable with soul mate no 1.

Has anyone read "The Tenth Iinsight" One of the celestine prophecy books. I read it a long time ago, it said that soul groups were groups of 7 people (this would have to be a very close soul group) that there was karma to work through but we need to make peace with them all. I think this is happening already and a necessary part of our evolution.

IAT-
My soul mate no 1 married someone else after we ended. He had 3 children. The marriage only lasted a few years and he was back, you never know what the future holds. That claivoyant that I was talking about always said to me it is not over between you ( no 1). I did not believe her but it has happened. You never know what will happen, life twists and turns and there are other soul mates. I really wish no 3 and I had worked out but you never know. The clairvoyant I saw recently (not the one I have talked about) Said she thought that I would marry no 3. I really can't see that happening but then......

Magus

I think you are right. The costs involved are heavy.....
But

Whiterabbit

You are also right. What is the cost of a less passionate relationship??

I think soul mate relationships are about stretching ourselves to learn and grow. Even though I was devastated with each ending (and I ended 2 of these relationships)I am a better person for being involved with each of these men. I think I learned my lessons.

Love and light

Cathy

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sue g
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posted September 27, 2005 01:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message

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iAmThat
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posted September 27, 2005 11:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Cathy,
I think the subject of remarrying, divorce are all subjective based on culture upbringing, etc....

In my case my beliefs were very decisive. As I said, I have an amazing ability to let go of things that I perceive as blocking my evolution. I consciously blocked it and changed my future. Or atleast I hope so

Wish I could really go in to details, but I can't. It would shake Mary Clark Higgins off her seat hehehehe....

One comment I certainly want to make is in response to your "The clairvoyant I saw recently (not the one I have talked about) Said she thought that I would marry no 3. "

I believe that when we speak to people they sow the seed of thoughts in to our world, and we reap because of that thought.
It wasn't our thought. We were influenced.
Those thoughts controls us magnetically. The control is stronger the more you believe and trust this person.
I am not saying do not listen to this person. I am trying to be self contained. I try to go within me to find my own answers.
Do you understand what I am saying?
Well please do not be offended. I had my Eureka moment when I read your words. I remembered my own Clairvoyant words. Whatever she forewarned me. I ignored it I paid a price. Its like she saying "Do not take this flight. It will crash. And I consciously take that flight."

But I do not regret it. I feel that it was better for me, in the path I chose. I am learning even more lessons that way.


Love to you and all.

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cathy1111100xxx
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posted September 28, 2005 02:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cathy1111100xxx     Edit/Delete Message
Hi IAT

I totally agree with you, we are our own best clairvoyants. I re read what I ahd written I can understand why it may appear that I let others sow seeds etc. I don't go all the time I am 43 and have seen a few of these people in my time, but only occasionally. I believe we all have free will and they tell you that as well. But when they make predictions for say one of your children that you don't believe is possible and it happens without the child knowing well then.... I think some people have a gift. When I saw the one that sais she thought I would marry no 3.... I had just started seeing him and said...I have just started seeing this man and she said aaahh a man with a christian name starting with R. Well that is accurate. I think it would be good to develop these abilities within ourselves though. I do not at the moment have the same ability as her.

Lots of Love

Cathy

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sue g
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posted September 28, 2005 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sue g     Edit/Delete Message
Hey IAT

Wouldnt you make a great clairvoyant yourself....arent you Cancer Sun with Scorpio moon, or am I thinking of someone else..........I think that combo always produces an extremely psychic soul......

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iAmThat
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posted September 28, 2005 09:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iAmThat     Edit/Delete Message
Yes..thats me...I bet I can make a good clairyovant I passed Kats online psychic test once. I hope

Cathy,
Its not what you said, but my perception of it that may be flawed...Chill...I was just discussing a important lesson I learnt in my own journey. But it does not mean I stop asking about my future to the people I know I am such a different beast, I actually chose the contrary than what I was supposed to chose

Since our creator decided that we experience the mystery than knowing things upfront, I too minimise that asking others?
My goal is to make it 0 no matter what the circumstances. Thats the true strength of our faith.

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