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pisceangirl90
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posted October 19, 2005 06:28 AM           Edit/Delete Message
i loved this virgo guy for four years before we started going out. we got really close and then suddenly he just broke up with me. when i asked him the reason he said that someone in his school found out about us and it spoiled his reputation. thus, he broke up wid me because the school i attend is considered very 'lame' in his school. he is now going out with a popular girl in his school because it helped him get his reputation back. He says he does not like me but i know he does but he still wants to go out with that 'popular' girl even though he doesnot like her. How can he be so insensitive? or was there something wrong with me? i just cant get over him...i cry all the time. our relationship was just perfect....but at the same time i have lost respect for him because he cant stand up for what he wants..i thought virgos were very understanding people...how did he become so artificial?

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posted October 19, 2005 08:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Virgos, and I am one, have self-image problems, particularly when they are younger. This makes the very sensitive to what others think. Fortunately we grow out of that as we grow spiritually.

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pisceangirl90
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posted October 19, 2005 09:13 AM           Edit/Delete Message
hey lllog! thanks for ur reply!!! :-)

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let ther b light
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posted October 20, 2005 06:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for let ther b light     Edit/Delete Message
hi piscean girl
im not too sure how virgo men are....but wat i do no, is that if he cannot stand by you, he is'nt worth it. i no it really hurts but he has decided that his image is his first priority..........its really sad but thats the way it is...........if he really loves you he'll realise he's being a jerk n will hopefully mend his ways....try to focus your energies on other things, like maybe ur work or hobbies.........i no it is easier said than done, but u hav to at least try....
all the best
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pisces9
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posted October 25, 2005 10:05 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi Piscesgirl,

I can well understand how youre feeling, me being a piscean gal too!

I do remember i had one virgo who gave up on me suddenly as well. Long time back...we had a wonderful connection. He was crazy about me, so much that he would write down all his emotions in emails etc ect. And then one day suddenly he stopped EVERYTHING!!!

I was shocked, so hurt i couldnt stop crying, everytime i saw him i knew he loved me but i didnt know the reason why he didnt contact me????Asked him and he didnt even reply. He lost abt 10 kgs of weight in a month so i knew he was suffering as well but he just didnt TELL me!!!

I was so hurt and so disgusted that like mentioned earlier, i lost ALL respect for the guy. I never even said a 'Hi', i just detached. It took a while but when you lose respect you lose it.

It was an YEAR from that time that he met me one day and stopped me.I was surprised and i had moved on. And he asked me "Why dont you ever talk to me? What did i do? You dont even greet me anymore?" I was surprised but i thought i needed to let him know. So i did and he FINALLY came out withthe reason that "The Organization dosent see 2 people becoming friends in a good light....". In other words, he couldve been fired had he been seen with me.

And so he thought he could take a great decision of cutting away totally...I just looked at him strangely and simply said "Theres always after office"? He couldnt reply and he knew he was wrong. Point was he wanted to get back but it was too late.

Maybe your virgo will realise and come back to you as well but will you want him?Maybe not? From the looks of what he has done now, im not sure he cld be such a strong person....its upto you pisces. Be strong!!!!

Itll be FINE!

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nove731
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posted October 30, 2005 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nove731     Edit/Delete Message
I don't know. I have a Virgo Rising, and usually when I do something like that, it's because the other person has done something to hurt my feelings in a big way.

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posted October 30, 2005 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pixelpixie     Edit/Delete Message
Whatever the reason,

Do you really want to 'be' with someone who can so quickly, hurtfully and flipp[antly toss you like that?
Whether he 'got over it' or not, he would be blacklisted in my books.. that other girl deserves him.
You deserve better.
The pain will mend, and you will be better for it... his pain won't, as he doesn't understand properly yet.. one day he will, we can always hope.....
Move on is my advice. Go ahead and hurt.. but hurt with the intention of mending, not the intention of reconcilliation.
There are others who wouldn't treat you so callously.

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PixelPixie, I've never said this before but I'll say it now, I loove the advice you give .. its so insightful and helpful!!.. you seriously give one of the best advices

Pisceangirl90, you know what I think of this, as I said before, you should move on, you don't need such people in your life.

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Don't go to bed angry, stay up and fight!

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posted August 07, 2009 06:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat lover     Edit/Delete Message
Pisecesgirl I've just come across this post and noticed that its a few yrs old so I hope you got over your virgo guy!

I'm a pisces girl too and I too indeed fell for a virgo guy last year.
We got quite close (not physically) but on a friendship level but it was obvious we fancied each other!
I used to see him every day at work and we used to talk loads, we genuinely liked being in each others company, which went on for months.

Then one day he just stopped and i mean stopped talking to me like he used to.
It came as quite a shock and when i did see him we only spoke for like 2 seconds it was all very superficial, like he didn't want to be seen talking to me anymore.

I eventually found out later that his ex girlfriend came back on the scene and one day he just blatently came out with the fact that he had a girlfriend. I also found out that he had a child too!

I think what hurt most was that he didn't even try to talk to me about his situation and explain anything even as a friend. I know he didnt owe me anything as we were not an item or anything but just a conversation would of been courtesy.
This resulted in a complete awkardness between us.

So I've came to this conclusion that this is what virgo guys(or most men!) do when something comes up in their lives they will drop you without having any regard for your feelings. What ever the other thing is they will put it first usually before the girl!

It's sad but true. But I'm over him now..happy dayz!

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posted August 07, 2009 06:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, all of these Pisces women and Virgo men, that is very interesting!

The short answer – yes, Virgos men are that artificial. My Virgo male friends are just as catty about how females look as females are about each other. I’ve heard things like: “she has a pretty face but her thighs are huge!” “her lips could use some plumping up” “her hair looks dry” about regular women as well as actresses. What? c’mon…I know one that is so obsessed with pornographic films and Playboy magazine images that every other woman falls short (obviously). He is single and in his 40s!

Public image is very important to them. I was crushing on one and we began to start seeing each other then we just stopped. When I asked why he said that people looked at us and wondered why someone like me was with him. I was like “Pftt! What the hell does it matter? Who cares what people think?” He said “I do”.Well, I was noticeably taller than him (him 5’6”, me 5’10”). He was really brilliant and attractive so it didn’t matter to me but apparently it was a huge deal to him. Oh well.

The ones I know/have known are either just not confident enough to be themselves without worrying about public opinion or the public opinion has been ingrained so deeply in their brains that they can’t see beyond the superficial.

Move on to a man who is confident and fully appreciates you!

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posted August 07, 2009 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cat lover     Edit/Delete Message
Downtomars! Haha thats soo true, the virgo guy i knew wanted to be liked and be popular with everyone. He hung out with the pack (his guy mates) with one of them being the ring leader! He looked up to him to seek his valiadation.

It's like he didn't wanted to be mocked by him or the others if he was seen showing me any affection!

He wasn't a pushover but yes I would say not strong enough to stand his own ground. I would put it down to immaturity.

When I think of him now he kinda reminds me of danny from the movie grease! kinda says it all!

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posted September 01, 2009 11:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgovenusleo     Edit/Delete Message
Yes we virgos can be shallow latter climbers depending are the placements in the chart the men more then women though.

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posted September 02, 2009 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgovenusleo     Edit/Delete Message
Yes the men are liek this for some odd reason obsesseion with porn is a virgo man thing cause they are voruyers

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posted September 02, 2009 07:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
The man Virgos I've met have made me ashamed to be a Virgo, female as I may be. Shallow!!! I doubt that I can coexist on a romantic level, with the Virgo males I know.

They want "models" or "famous" or something odd like that. They want trophies. I speak of the 5 I know personally. One can never be sure why they like you. I can't be around such.

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libraschoice7
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posted September 17, 2009 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
I was madly in love with one long time ago, but after getting burned pretty hard by him that was enough for me, I wasn't up to his important 'social' standards. And yes he was very superficial. Now these days I choose to admire from afar any attractive Virgo male I encounter and keep my emotions in check...

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posted September 18, 2009 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I've met a couple of really good, kind Virgo men. We're talking gold.

All the other Virgo men... well, I can tell you stories and tell you things about the darker version of the Virgo male that would make you recoil in horror... seriously. These men are either pure gold or pure ****.
There's no half-way.

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posted September 18, 2009 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Well, there are certainly exceptions--but a lot of the Virgo men I know have been extremely image-conscious.

They won't get involved with someone they don't like just because she is beautiful and/or popular, though. They will like her because she is beautiful and popular, and go out with her because they like her--if you catch the distinction.

It sounds like yours is very immature. But he may also have had real reasons for wanting to split up. I know it hurts, but he might really like the girl he's with now. Hopefully he'll be more mature when he gets older, and learn to say something nice and decent instead of really lame when he breaks up with someone.

In the meantime, as an adorable Pisces you will soon find someone who's cooler, more mature, and more spiritually evolved than this particular Virgo.

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posted September 18, 2009 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i had a virgo man tell me not to let myself get fat, my butt was getting fat..he mentioned kaye lani rafke...former miss america and how she let herself go and get fat, what a shame...

i told him fat butts didn't fit in a size 5 and AND at my age if i get a fat butt i deserve to have it. i have earned the right to OWN it.

then he explained to me how i used to have a perfect body and if i am fishing for a husband i need the right bait. not trying to hurt my feelings, but gotta keep my bait right...actually he did kinda hurt my feelings, although he didn't think i was fat, his friend said it, he just wanted me to know...

i do love virgos dearly, but the ARE very particular.....

i personally like fat butts. so there.

(and it made me think, men can look like balding dickie do's ..you know when there belly sticks out more than thier dickie do... and want a victorias secret model for a gf) GEESKAS!

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posted September 18, 2009 12:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
cpn- that guy is... I have no words! That would have made me angry and hurt too!

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posted September 18, 2009 12:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
True, true, and true.

Especially true what MVM said. They go either way, kinda like a Scorpio.

I too have evil Virgo stories that would not be printable here.

My little brother used to critique my eyebrow plucking. My brother! He could spot an extra hair on one eyebrow from across the room!

What I figured out from having Virgos romantically and having them as family is this..
For the most part, they are trying to help you be your best. They honestly think pointing these things out is for your advantage. They have no personal stake in it.
Now in romance, they see YOU as a direct reflection of THEM, so that is why they want you on point 24/7. It doesn't matter if they are balding with a dickie-do, if YOU look like a supermodel, then they think everyone else will think there is something totally irresistable about them, and that is why your with them in the first place.

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posted September 18, 2009 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
OMG! So, I have a long time friend who is a Virgo male. I had always been attracted to him but never quite felt myself up to his standard. He had a Barbie doll wife so never could I imagine him to be interested in me other than a friend. It just so happened that we started talking not long ago and lo and behold, he DID have an attraction to me! I use past tense because I don't know what's going on now ha. And he doesn't have a Barbie wife anymore either.

I was SHOCKED! So since my ego has been badly bruised by my estranged husband I thought what the hey, I'll bite..what could it hurt? OOOOOOOOH well...when we got together, it was all great..going great..I was thinking to myself "I cannot believe *I* am sitting here with this gorgeous, witty, intelligent, funny, did I mention gorgeous? Virgo"

Then. He let the bomb drop. He gave me the "Amanda you need to take better care of yourself physically" speech....my mouth slightly parted and I felt my head tilt to the side, looking at him with half opened eyes because, yes, he meant, lose some weight. Now, I'm not exactly Cindy Crawford however, I take good care of myself--meaning, I'm clean for one thing, I am very well groomed, I always smell good, I dress nice, I accessorize, I wear makeup that brings out what I feel to be..beauty..AND BOYFRIEND WANTS TO TELL ME TO LOSE SOME WEIGHT???

Ok ok, I know I need to do that right? Of course I do, and I'm working on that, despite having a Big Mac tonight that was delicious btw. But, UM. Excuse me. I'm separated and not wanting a pity party! I also don't want to be kicked when I'm already down! He then proceeded to tell me what CPN's man did! That if I want to be with other men I need to look the part blah blah blah.

So. A few days after this meeting, I decided to let loose and tell him just what I thought and I told him it hurt my feelings alot. He had no idea what I was talking about. *needle on the record stops*

He likes to help people, he is very high up on the educational ladder and his career has been built on helping others. I KNOW what he was doing, but it still hurt my feelings. Honest to God he hadn't a clue what I was talking about.

Once I made my point, like us brutal Sag's do...he stopped talking to me. And has barely said 10 words since then and that was a few weeks ago. Granted, I did say I was sorry if I sounded like a ***** but I have valid points and feelings and for once in a blue moon, I actually spoke my mind, because normally I will not tell you what I am really thinking.

So, I've tried to figure this out...and used my sister as an example for she is a Virgo. I've reflected upon her past relationships and here's what I've determined about her but not my Virgo man haha...when she meets someone she has a tendency to fall head over heels in love at first sight. She's planning a wedding on the second date kind of thing. She is a bit obsessive about the other person too...and when they do something to hurt her, she can't seem to let it go. She thinks and analyzes it and makes everyone around her do the same.

She's also extremely stubborn and she likes to tell me what to do at random times as well. Just out of the blue she will tell me what to do. She's good at manipulating people too...little bugger. But she's my sister and I love her.

I'm guessing my Virgo man is like this too? Dunno..he won't talk enough for me to figure it out and he lives 4 hrs away now so it's not like I see him everyday like I did a few years ago.

Here's the deal, Virgo, Scorpio, Pisces, Aquarius, Leo's whatever...MEN. ARE. WEIRD.

Have a Big Mac, it sure made me feel better! LOL!

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posted September 19, 2009 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
The guy you're talking about just sounds like a douchebag. I don't care what his sun sign is. And for the record, I had an Aries talk to me that way once, before I kicked him to the curb.

Virgo men and women are different. I feel women tend to associate more with their Moon and Venus. Men with their Mars and sun. And unless a guy's got a lot of influence from his sign (as in, a stellium of 4 or more planets), I don't pay attention to the sun sign too much.

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posted September 19, 2009 05:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MsCandeh     Edit/Delete Message
ummm sorry to say it .. but yes. From my experience anyway.

Although I have one good Virgo friend who has been with his Cappy (we are all good friends from high school days!) for 6 years now. He's a total sweetheart .

I chatted to a Virgo in a club when I was about 19 or 20 (not a great place to pick up lol) he was a bartender.. we swapped numbers.. then over the next few weeks he kept sending me horrible, lewd messages .. almost on the verge of harassment.. as I'd asked him to stop contacting me several times. So totally superficial. I have never ever given my number out to a guy I have met at a club since then.. well I dont go anymore, so that helps.

Another Virgo friend of mine, known him since I was 16 ... is totally and utterly superficial (but a great laugh!!). He wants a barbie girl who is good in bed .. that's it. Then if they cheat on him, or he decides to break up with her we get a very very nasty message on Facebook homepage with his status update - he has no shame. He must have a fire moon.. I haven't looked up his chart before. We're 25 now and he is getting worse.

My dad is a Virgo and extremely image concious.. we were never allowed to visit anyone unless we were wearing shoes, I wasn't allowed to brush my hair in the car because other people would see and think less of us, or sleep over at friends houses or visit them on the weekend (what would other people think if his children are off galavanting around at their friends houses?! lol) .. I was 9 months old, just learned to walk. Mum and dad had taken me to a restaurant.. and because I was so small and walking around... (mum had dressed me up in a liddle dress and said it was very cute, like a doll walking around lol).. I was walking around a couple of nearby tables and just being cute, not annoying or anything because I couldn't talk much, and other people didn't mind (according to mum) .. dad said to mum "Control her! She needs to be sitting at the table with her parents. What will other people think?!" ... such a Virgo thing to say!

Most Virgos I know are very image concious unless born on the Leo/Virgo Cusp!


ETA: JustAmanda... that sounds like my dad. Sorry to say it... He is a doctor which doesn't help. He does the whole "you need to take better care of yourself physically..." speech with me too. Everytime I see him at the surgery he weighs me even if I have come in to see him with a cold or something (and takes my blood sugar reading which is always normal ha ha ha). It is annoying but learned to live with it. I'm the same, I dress nice, shower every day, wear make up, brush my hair and my teeth lol ... I am just a little bit overweight (could lose another 10kg). I'm 5'8" with a good shape so can carry a little bit more .. and it hasn't affected my attractiveness to the opposite sex lol

I'm sorry that he is making you feel so rotten though.. I honestly think that people like that can't help themselves, it's so programmed into them that they don't realise how they are coming across.

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posted September 19, 2009 05:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Ugh, why do people DO this?

Find a person, have an experience.
It's good, or it's bad.
You know their sun sign.
Suddenly everyone's an authority on how that person is, based on their sun sign alone.
If your ex-boyfriend or whatever was a Virgo and a jerk then you connect with others who bash that sign, and you join in the bashing.
Suddenly everyone is connecting in complaining, not about their own experience and pain, but in how horrible so-and-so was because of their sun sign.
And it just snowballs from there!
It's like people just think they can take a sun sign or even an aspect, or whatever, and base their entire bad experiences on that alone.
It makes me sad because it's like using astrology as an excuse to justify why someone was bad to you.
Or excuse someone's bad behavior.
Or excuse your own bashing of someone, because of what, some random MONTH they were born?
It's just crazy.
I know we're all guilty of this to an extent, but I see so many threads with this - it goes waaaay too far.

I don't care if it's Virgo or Sadge or Libra - I can make the exact same thread with the exact same posts and have it fall under a different sun sign altogether.
I don't like seeing people generalize so much - it really goes against the spirit of understanding astrology.
And there's not even an attempt to TRY and understand. Just bash, bash, bash.

Oh well, knock yourselves out, guys.

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posted September 19, 2009 07:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustAmanda     Edit/Delete Message
aw MVM...I'm sorry...I guess it is like bashing a sign...although I cannot speak for others, I didn't intend on my post to be that way. I read the other posts and thought oh my gosh! This sounds so familiar! This is how I LEARN about other signs...the traits of a sign etc. After all, isn't that what astrology is all about? Why else would Linda Goodman have written books such as Sun Signs, Love Signs, Star Signs, about the different signs and their personality traits, if she didn't want us to learn about them? Good AND bad?


Oh and for whoever was talking about rising signs as well, my Virgo friend has Leo rising.

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