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posted January 23, 2006 03:23 PM         

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Venus Rx has been pretty tough on me. The first guy I have ever properly felt something for and I can't be together because of age reasons, mainly. And I can kid myself, and even now I'm back at school I can forget for a while but I keep coming back to the fact that I still think he is the most gorgeous man and I thought he was better than sliced bread. I don't know if he knows that. But he is now trying to excuse his reciprocation of any feelings back for someone too young (all talk though, nothing happened) as a moment of weakness in a hard time in his life. Stuff was hard for him, though...
I don't know if anyone understands, but that really hurt to know something I felt so strongly about is now disregarded and how all the great things he practically promised won't happen.
I've been more continually sad than ever. Nothing has ever shown me we are meant to get together, not astrology, and fate seems against me.... so why do I still feel he is a cut above everyone else? Why would I care if he got a girlfriend? Why did it make me cry so much?
It sounds stupid. How can you tell when stuff is and isn't meant to happen... and why can't I stop waiting for him?

Sorry. I just needed to get that out and figured this was the place. Thanks.

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posted January 23, 2006 04:12 PM         

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Hey MNF, I completely understand what you're saying about Venus Rx. Me too. Who knows why the heart behaves the way it does? In regards to fate being against you, I'm no expert, but I think that Fate has a little of each measured out for all of us. It hurts because you love(d) and it wasn't reciprocated in the same fashion. But don't lose hope. Eventually the love you give will be returned to you, someway, somehow. As far as when stuff is & isn't meant to happen, I think that only time can tell.

Be blessed,
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posted January 24, 2006 07:37 AM         

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I know how you feel to love someone like that, but hey, at least he didn't destroy your life and then leave you to try to live what's left of it..

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posted January 24, 2006 01:27 PM         

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how much older is he than you? my husband is 12 years, and it really isnt an issue.

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posted January 24, 2006 04:05 PM         

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victoriasgirl1- Thank you. That's very nice. I don't try to say 'love' because that's a pretty strong word and I reckon stuff was cut off before I got a chance to! I'm not saying he didn't like me, cos I reckon he probably did/does but the circumstances are a big issue. You're right about fate I think.

SavageScorpio- Thanks... don't get me wrong but it sounds like you've been through some pretty tough heartache? I don't mind hearing if you want to spill on this topic. My problem wasn't him destroying my life cos I think I did. I let my whole life surround thoughts of him and I feel pretty stupid now.

LeoLys- It's 5/6 years which isn't so much of an issue except I'm 15, which makes it a problem. Emotionally and Mentally I'm not as unprepared for something like this as some other people my age, but the thing that got to him was (apart from we couldn't go out with each other due to the law) what other people would think. He didn't want anyone thinking of him as irresponsible or as someone doing something socially unacceptable. Well, he is a Capricorn.

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posted January 25, 2006 12:30 AM         

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figures...the Capricorn bit.

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posted January 25, 2006 01:09 PM         

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AG, totally right. Don't Cap men, like Cancer men, like young nubiles? And LeoLys, I totally agree with your statement.
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He didn't want anyone thinking of him as irresponsible or as someone doing something socially unacceptable. Well, he is a Capricorn.
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Unfortunately, sad but true. I don't think it will be any concilation MNF, but my great heartache was a Cappy too. However, better to have gotten THAT lesson out of the way. It may make you (as it did me) alot more cautious when opening your heart. Not altogether a bad thing. Love, vic

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posted January 25, 2006 02:09 PM         

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AG- Yeah I guess so, AG, but I'd never seen such a... well, almost a textbook quote astrology-wise before. Not a particularly good way to start acting stereotypically.

vic- hmmmm, problem is, he hasn't just massacred my family and so I still feel about him, a lot. If I didn't care and I hated him it would be so much easier. Plus, I still don't think I'm strong enough to not make the same mistake again.
Anyone throw me a bone and I'll take it. I mean, if he does... I hear a lot of women can end up like this, resenting the fact they're sounding desperate when they find themselves liking a man enough to say "How high?" when he says "Jump."
I'm not quite that bad, but I could be.

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posted January 25, 2006 07:01 PM         

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The Mutable Night Force-

I've been in exactly the same position! (same age and age differences too!) and I would like you to know that I empathize.

But keep this is mind: Venus Rx often shows us areas in our lives where we are unhealthily attatching ourselves and if you are aware of this is will give you great insight for the future and the way you deal with yourself and other people. So look on this seemingly negative experience as a magical one. I too have been not happy with the Venus Rx, but the past few weeks have been revealing and my willingness to see has helped me feel much more peaceful and empowered.

Good luck and hang in there

Light and Unconditional Love,
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posted January 29, 2006 06:14 PM         

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Thank you TMC. Sorry I forgot to thank you earlier.

You're right... Venus Rx can be enlightening and show you unhealthy areas in your life... I should probably take heed from that. I'll try to for the future.

Meanwhile, stuff is better right now... I just hope it stays good!!!

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posted January 30, 2006 01:00 AM         

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Victoria'sgirl,

Yes, though currently I'm with a woman 12 years my senior, so go figure. She isn't the 'One,' though.

Last gf was like 9 years younger.

I've thought for awhile that I may be a bit like Michael Douglas, marrying and having a family later in life with a younger woman. I really have no idea how these things work, though. will have to wait and see.

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posted January 30, 2006 03:16 PM         

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MnF...

when i hear of someone getting into bee gees music ..
that's when i start to worry .. ..

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posted January 30, 2006 03:35 PM         

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Haha lol that's not really fair HD!

Why? What's worrying in particular about my liking for the Bee Gees?

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posted January 31, 2006 08:38 PM         

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MizM'nf
re .. : ..
**lol that's not really fair**

yes it is .. you never experienced the 'disco' scene ..
i'm just joking around realy .. (obviously .. unless the icons be on strike )

they were brilliant at harmony (whatever one thinks of their style ).. so .. if you like them .. means .. YOU .. have an ear for harmony .. ..and that is Good News .. OK ..

i liked some of their earlier songs .. i guess i was about .. ahem .. your age .. i think not too later on .. or maybe at the same time .. there was a group called 'the easy beats' .. also an australian band .. but more like the rolling stones .. .. .. .. anyhow on hearing that lot then hearing 'clapton' .. 'hendrix' .. 'jeff beck' .. and i'd just got interested in guitar playing well .. .. and amongst male teens at the time .. the bee gees may have been seen as a bit 'girly' .. i don't know .. ( i do know micheal jackson .. brilliant performer .. or not .. still makes me cringe .. i think its the 'girly voice' turnoff syndrome )
i saw an interveiw .. think it was on 'Parkinson' .. with the surviving brother .. after one of them hit the big studio in the sky .. was quite touching .. .. no .. i agree they are good musicians/writers .. ... for harmony .. to me it be .. of the old stuff .. the 'beach boys' .. 'crosby stills nash and young' .. 'steely dan' .. 'jackson brown' .. .. 'allman brothers' .. with duane allman .. if ye want to get bluesy .. ..
i only heard one song .. but thought the 'goldfraps' had / have potential ..
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posted January 31, 2006 08:40 PM         

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( continued from previous post )
oh .. this thread be about a cappy guy and a love struck virgo ... 'n age .. .. ok .. that must be a few threads
... but .. er .. my very first .. mmm .. lust 'n romance .. well she was 23 .. i was 16 ..we had just left the beach .. ... it was quite abrasive an experience .. (:-)) ( .. wonders if auto-censor will crop a word or so there .. ) anyhow .. said romance lasted about 2 weeks .. she was on holiday .. visiting the locale .. .. as for hi school romance ... .. i think you may find .. new and interesting attractions can quickly get your mind of .. the unfulfilled ones .. listen .. it won't be toooooo long .. till the legal stuff is out of the way ... and as for age difference .. .. amongst older folk .. 6 or so years is 'nowt .. either way most of my gf's have been younger than myself .. the longest lasting was with a lass 9 yrs younger .. ..and i know of 2 relationships .. now .. amongst ppl i know ... the guys are in their early 50's and the lass's .. one be 29 .. the other about 31 i guess ..( scorp.f / cancer.m and .. double aquarian sun for the other couple ) ... just saw one of the guys recently .. .. and they seem quite happy with a wonderful daughter (looks just like pixlz daughter ..if youv'e seen her pic) ... and the other couple have been together 18 yrs now (her cousin is a drummer .. nice leo lad) .. and are still going strong .. .. although i guess they have their ups and downs .. .. and one friend ( a Taurean ) is married to a Cappy gal .. 9 yrs older than him .... and they are really happy ... ... .. .. be a strange world ..

.. you know what ... i'm glad the whole 'romance' thing .. is a Mystery ..

oh .. 'salmon pink' goes well with 'fender white' .. just my opinion ..... fender used a color called 'fiesta red' ( i call it salmon pink) .. it was only used on some 60s models ... ... then they dropped the color .. quite collectable now .. if i still have the magazine .. shall scan a couple 'n post them ... anyhow .. i discovered a salmon pink shirt-thing in my collection ... and just happened to pik up my white strat ... hey .. hey ... nice color combo .. well i thought so ..

be well
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posted February 01, 2006 02:02 PM         

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I like the Bee Gees mostly due to song-writing ability... their melodies.... ie. even when they're writing for other people- Barbara Streisand "Woman In Love"- "I turn away from the wall, I stumble and fall, but I give you it all!" Great Song.

As for what you call High School HD... I go to an all girls school! It has its pros and cons....
Will come back to finish this post in a bit- dinner first

(Be right back...)

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posted February 01, 2006 03:15 PM         

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(back..)

Yeah, the age thing, as I'm sure you realise, isn't an issue when both parties are older but at this given time it IS an issue, and a very troublesome one at that!
Back to High school thing, in any case, the thought of boys my age nearly bores me to tears with a few exceptions, since they are SO much like little children to me... emotionally and physically... just not appealling... yuck.
But when men become men, quite a lot of them become sh*ts. Hence another problem. I don't mean all the time obviously, it's just I'm learning a lesson at the moment and learning fast too...

I'm just so confused at the moment about most things... about where I stand... and he's like "You're taking things too seriously. I don't want to get married. Haha."
Like- WTF??? It's simply his feelings towards me are extremely erratic! It's all on his terms... when HE chooses to be nice to me... I didn't think he was naturally like this, it's just how he's been coming across recently. I don't think he's taking it seriously enough, and doesn't realise that no matter how he tries to prevent me liking... nearly loving him, there are still a young girl's feelings involved and I sense he just wants to shrug all responsibility of that so we can 'just have a bit of fun'. Bloody Sag Moon causes that... Bloody Scorp Ascendant causes the controlling urges, Capricorn Sun causes the sudden bouts of sensibility. Yet it was all those three that made me adore him to begin with. B*stards, all three of them

As for guitars HD, why would you be playing two at the same time anyway?

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posted February 01, 2006 03:29 PM         

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**I go to an all girls school! :-( It has its pros and cons....**
.. mine was an "all guys" school ... the local 'all girls' was about 3 miles away .. it used to get 'raided' all the time by lads from our school :-)).. ... ... just before i decided i'd had enough of parents and home life ( i packed my strat in a case .. took it with me .. when i ran off to the cities bright lights ) .... i volunteered for the boys hockey team .. don't know why .. actualy turned out to be a neat game .. i was always getting done for raising the 'stick' toooo high .. against the rule i think ... ..... BUT we got to play against all the girls hockey team ... now that was fun ... .. although we usualy got beaten by the gals .....

re: beegees and songwriting ... ... i totaly agree with you ... .. but thinking on it .. listening to Fleetwood Mac seemed to be another step up .. .. in the direction of satisfying musical hunger that is ... ... it is worth watching that interveiw with "Parky" .. if one could find it ... i.e. listening to what a successful songwriter/composer has to say .. gives one an added bit of 'music' knowledge .. for your own use in .. songwriting or whatever ..

** .. their melodies.. **
good point number two .. if you enjoy 'melody' ... it will definitely benefit your music aspirations .. however big or small .. a good melody maks a great 'hook' .. something that the listener finds going on in their head .. y'know .. lke a catchy tune that sings in ones head .. .. a it were ..

am still aiming to do those chord movement charts .. .. need to put some time aside ...

'later

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posted February 01, 2006 04:59 PM         

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**why would you be playing two at the same time anyway?**
.. can i think that one over ??? .. i would .. if i had four arms hands and 20 digits .. ... silliness aside .. well those twin neck jobs are a Pain and Impractical ... the answer is two different tunings .. both have their advantages and disadvantages .. .. but neither sounds like the other .. both harmonicaly and sonicly .. .. one or the other suites different styles of playing .. suites different songs/tunes ..

the strokes player uses those two main guitars .. strat and gibson 335 ... 'cause one just cannot produce the tone the other one (of the two) .. can .. .. i.e. a strat will never sound like a 335 and visa versa ..

and .. get yer mp3 player wound up .. cause i'm going to upload a popular song .. and a set of 3 finger chords .. that will show you the 'formula' if you like .. of harmony on the guitar .. .. and you'll be making chordal melodies in no time ..
.. and it is a formula that works in any musical key of your choice ...

I read yer post about the 'guys' .. .. your a funny writer .. as in: .. lots of healthy laffs this end .. had me chuckling all the way .. ... but any comments re that (boys and men ) .. be after i get hd's guitar lesson numero uno ... finalized .. .. in the meantime .. hang on to your hormones .. .. patience is a virtue .. so they say ..

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TMNF I am feeling the same exact way you are right now...I have been sooo depressed because of a guy for about 3 weeks now. We didn't work out because of age, also.
Girl you sound so much like me it's unbelievable.. My heart doesn't get broken easily AT ALL but this guy has practically ruined me.
These song lyrics show how I have been about this whole ordeal~
Every time I try to grasp for air
I get smothered in despair
It's never over..over..
Seems I'll never wake from this nightmare
I let out a silent pray let it be over..over..
Inside I'm screaming, begging, pleading no more..
Now I don't know what to do
My heart has been bruised
So sad but it's true
Each beat reminds me of you
Oh and it hurt's my soul
Cause I can't let go..All these walls are caving in; I can't stop my suffering
I hate to show that I've lost control cause I keep going right back to the one thing that I need
I can't mend this torn state I'm in
Getting nothing in return; What did I do to deserve the pain of this slow burn
And everywhere I turn I keep going right back to the one thing that I need to walk away from..

ohh when will venus rx be over?

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posted February 02, 2006 07:31 PM         

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(*edit* as i just remembered placements .. venus rx be finished i think)
*MnF*
gtr chart still on drawing board .. here is the mp3 .. even if you don't like the 'style' .. have a go at playing along to it .. much will be clearer (hopefuly) when i've done the chart ... basicly the song goes 'up' the C major scale starting on the C note .. main chords are .. C. Dmn. Emn. F. G. .. convenient for piano as well .. .. i may cont. guitar kareokee in another thread for all string shredders ..
audio file here * http://www.happydragon.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/jkbx/l.rll.stn.mp3 * back later with fret charts ..
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posted February 03, 2006 12:59 PM         

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HD- Hey Thanks about my posts... note sure which ones you're referring to but thank you all the same.
By the way, I'm really not that great at the guitar, I'm just a master at rheudementary chords... haha I'm more of a melody person. I make up the tune and chords together so it's more about the thing as a whole and less skill... I could play that song on piano sure, piano is something I can say I've mastered more than rheudementary on definately. But what you're talking about is barre chords which I am not even physically able to do. I'm okay with my crummy little plonk and minor twiddly solos, to leave all that skilled malarky to someone with real talent for the instrument... or stronger fingers
Nice cow cartoon btw.

Lousianagrl- Hey Always somehow nice to hear from someone who gets the way you're feeling. Though I gotta admit, I have to get out of this distrust for men phase cos it ain't a pretty place to be. I'm so up and down right now but about half a month ago I was right where you are. It killed a part of me and was terrible. But sadly, I'm not so sure now that maybe this whole thing isn't my fault for letting myself get too emotionally 'involved'. Okay, so I couldn't really help it, but I mean, I feel like I can't blame him. He was just being himself... just being a regular guy and I was behaving just like a regular female. Which sucks

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posted February 03, 2006 06:13 PM         

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MnF

** But what you're talking about is barre chords which I am not even physically able to do. **

mmmm .. not quite .. just done the chart .. there' all 3 finger chords .. No Barring Required .. you'll see when i get it posted .. .. they are all on the same three strings ( 2nd 3rd and 4th ) and all in the key of C major .. so keyboard/piano .. should be easy as well .. and the main thing is you will be able to do note melodies with harmony notes as well .. am not far off posting it to another thread .. ... may as well ..
'later
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posted February 03, 2006 09:49 PM         

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MnF .. fretboard info at this thread link .. (free for all forum) http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/005833.html

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posted February 03, 2006 11:31 PM         

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TMNF~ Exactly my problem! I got pretty emotional for him and I guess his aqua rising said WOOAH yeah sorry baby but..see you later/never again!
Well I wasn't about to let him know how much he hurt me..so at lunch (he has the same one as me) I would be playing my usual 'I-wonder-how-many-people-I-can-meet-today' game.. I recently worked a little-ahem- 'magick' on him so he's been coming around; and what do I do? Ignore his a$$! Yeah it's cruel, but that son-of-a-b*tch deserves a taste of his own medicine. If you've read my scorpio posts, you'd know the little devil I'm talking about

I agree with you that it's good not to be the only upset person in the world. I was trying to find a way to say that in an unselfish manner in my last reply but I couldn't, lol.

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